ne... wrote:

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 08:34, Dave Plater <dave.plater@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

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Hi, I'm trying to report a bug but the website suddenly stopped working, I tried www.novell.com with the same result - a timeout. Does anyone know whats happening?

Works for me. Looks like they've changed the content. New US administration, new fresher site...

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ah cool flash that should piss off the hard core linux guys -- Hans Krueger hanskrueger007@roadrunner.com registered Linux user 289023 411024 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Larry Stotler wrote:

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Hans Krueger <hanskrueger007@roadrunner.com> wrote:

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ah cool flash that should piss off the hard core linux guys

Yep, it did. And they don't have a real way to contact them to tell them how stupid the site now looks.

Flash based sites are SLOW and just plain waste bandwidth. What a friggin waste.

Well, it's just an opportunity to refine your skills with Adblock or Noscript or Stylish :) I chose the last: @namespace url(http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml); @-moz-document domain("www.novell.com") { #banner { visibility: hidden !important } } Cheers, Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

* Randall R Schulz <rschulz@sonic.net> [01-21-09 09:49]:

Generally, I'm not very persuaded by arguments about "wasted bandwidth."

In today's context it is merely a deragotory comment but certainly would be a prominent factory to someone on dialup. :^) -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Randall R Schulz <rschulz@sonic.net> wrote:

I use FlashBlock. It contains a white-list to which I add the few sites whose Flash animations I do want to see and clicking on the placeholders FlashBlock inserts in Flash elements unblocks them on a one-time basis.

As do I, but you still have to click some of them to use some sites. Once you get past the initial flash, you can usually bookmark what part of the site you actually need and those usually don't have flash.

Generally, I'm not very persuaded by arguments about "wasted bandwidth."

Anything flash based is a waste of bandwidth IMO. 80% of flash is for ads, and they are generally so annoying I wouldn't click on them to buy anything anyway. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On 2009/01/21 14:36 (GMT) Dave Howorth composed:

Well, it's just an opportunity to refine your skills with Adblock or Noscript or Stylish :) I chose the last:

I've never used any of those three.

@-moz-document domain("www.novell.com") {#banner {visibility: hidden !important}}

I use @-moz-document domain("www.novell.com") {#banner, #mainbody #news {display: none !important}} instead. Yours leaves a big blank spot in the page where the flash was supposed to be that mine doesn't. -- "Train a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not turn from it." Proverbs 22:6 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Larry Stotler wrote:

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Hans Krueger <hanskrueger007@roadrunner.com> wrote:

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ah cool flash that should piss off the hard core linux guys

Yep, it did. And they don't have a real way to contact them to tell them how stupid the site now looks.

Flash based sites are SLOW and just plain waste bandwidth. What a friggin waste.

Could be worse, it could require mono and moonlight. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Rajko M. wrote:

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 05:06:06 pm David C. Rankin wrote:

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even if it isn't fully QA'ed and only partially works;-)

For instance KDE users have Konqueror as default and there is no Flash even if you want it, like youtube.com .

Huh? http://www.donutmonster.com/stuff/2009/20090121_konq_youtube.jpg It should work out of the box. That's on 10.3, but I know it works on my son's 11.1 laptop. (I'm just too lazy to boot it up.) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

Kai Ponte schreef: (snip)

http://www.donutmonster.com/stuff/2009/20090122_opensuse11_1_kde3.png

This works just fine on KDE 3.5x under 10.3 - wonder why it doesn't under 11.1.

This may or may not be related, but when I installed 11.0 Firefox, Opera and Konq all had problems with sites with Flash content. Deinstalling and reinstalling Flashplayer solved the problem. :-? Regards, -- Jos van Kan registered Linux user #152704 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Thursday 22 January 2009 11:41:31 am Kai Ponte wrote:

Replying to my own email - I tried out Konqeuror on KDE 3.5x under 11.1. Even though Flash is installed it doesn't actually show Youtube (or lego.com) content:

http://www.donutmonster.com/stuff/2009/20090122_opensuse11_1_kde3.png

This works just fine on KDE 3.5x under 10.3 - wonder why it doesn't under 11.1.

That's it. Under 11.1 KDE4 works fine. It runs right now in another session. Why not? Missing correct path for KDE3 Konqueror? -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org