Hello, There are major problems with the US mirrors. To get the security updates I had to try all the mirrors to get them all. I have found that I must manaully run the update using all US mirrors to get all the patches. I have done this 2-3 days after the announcement. I would expect all mirrors to be up to date by then. But they are not. I did this on 20 machines varring which mirror to use first over the next 4 days. So to summerise even after 7 days from the announcement not all mirrors have all the security updates. I use the security annouce list. The dates I used were Jan 16-20 Jan 29-Feb2 Feb 8-... And this is by far the best. The opensuse OSS and the factory stuff you can just forget it. I noticed this was mentioned in the IRC. But I do not think Novell/OpenSUSE group understand just how bad it is. I have been lobbying a lot of business to try OpenSUSE that could lead to SLES contracts. They are totally dismayed at how bad this situation is. They were trying to get SUSE Linux 10.0. It was released in Oct and it is now Feb and they are unable to find a complete mirror. I know that Xmission hosts many projects. I have thought about talking with them about OpenSUSE and being a mirror. take a look at mirror.xmission.com They do have a suse directory but it is way out of date. You will not that debian and slackware are upto date. I would like to know if I should contact them. They are a very reliable mirror. I would really like to see the mirror situation discussed/resolved. Thanks, -- Boyd Gerber <gerberb@zenez.com> ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047
On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 10:38:08AM -0700, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:
take a look at mirror.xmission.com
They do have a suse directory but it is way out of date. You will not that debian and slackware are upto date. I would like to know if I should contact them. They are a very reliable mirror.
When I look at the site above, I do not see any SUSE mentioned. The main disadvatage is that they need to mirror both ftp.suse.com and ftp.opensuse.org to be complete. http://en.opensuse.org/Mirror_Infrastructure for more info. houghi -- When God created man, She was only testing.
On Thu, 9 Feb 2006, houghi wrote:
On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 10:38:08AM -0700, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:
take a look at mirror.xmission.com They do have a suse directory but it is way out of date. You will not that debian and slackware are upto date. I would like to know if I should contact them. They are a very reliable mirror.
When I look at the site above, I do not see any SUSE mentioned. The main disadvatage is that they need to mirror both ftp.suse.com and ftp.opensuse.org to be complete.
Yes, Below is what they have currently ftp://mirror.xmission.com/suse/ ftp://mirror.xmission.com/suse/i386/ Which is 8.2-9.2 They are considering it but want to know exactly how much space is needed. With the sponsership of storage array they would be willing to mirror any and all of ftp.opensuse.org and ftp.suse.com. -- Boyd Gerber <gerberb@zenez.com> ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047
On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 05:34:55PM -0700, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:
They are considering it but want to know exactly how much space is needed. With the sponsership of storage array they would be willing to mirror any and all of ftp.opensuse.org and ftp.suse.com.
First point them to http://en.opensuse.org/Mirror_Infrastructure Indeed information on how large things are might be usefull information. Perhaps not each and every bit and byte, but generall ballpark figures. Just an idea. Each directory has a directory.yast file. Could this be used and put the size in there? Or perhaps some information about size on the above link? houghi -- An age is called Dark not because the light fails to shine, but because people refuse to see it. -- James Michener, "Space"
On Thu, 9 Feb 2006, houghi wrote:
On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 05:34:55PM -0700, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:
They are considering it but want to know exactly how much space is needed. With the sponsership of storage array they would be willing to mirror any and all of ftp.opensuse.org and ftp.suse.com.
First point them to http://en.opensuse.org/Mirror_Infrastructure
Indeed information on how large things are might be usefull information. Perhaps not each and every bit and byte, but generall ballpark figures.
The above link is where I had them look and then they requested a guess for the amount of space that is needed. I tried to guess about 60 GB combined (per release for both ftp.suse.com and ftp.opensuse.org). With all the alpha's and beta's and such. I thought it was mentioned on some mail list or IRC meeting but could not find it.
Just an idea. Each directory has a directory.yast file. Could this be used and put the size in there? Or perhaps some information about size on the above link?
I think we really need to get a good idea on the size. I wish that link had it. Thanks, -- Boyd Gerber <gerberb@zenez.com> ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047
On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 06:14:33PM -0700, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:
The above link is where I had them look and then they requested a guess for the amount of space that is needed. I tried to guess about 60 GB combined (per release for both ftp.suse.com and ftp.opensuse.org). With all the alpha's and beta's and such. I thought it was mentioned on some mail list or IRC meeting but could not find it.
Just an idea. Each directory has a directory.yast file. Could this be used and put the size in there? Or perhaps some information about size on the above link?
I think we really need to get a good idea on the size. I wish that link had it.
It would be. I can imagine something like: 10.0 Total X GB i386 X GB ISOs Y GB Repo Y GB ... 64bit X GB ... PPC X GB ... 10.1 B3 ... That way people can decide easier what and what not to mirror. houghi -- Nothing astonishes men so much as common sense and plain dealing.
Hi, On Thu, 9 Feb 2006, houghi wrote:
On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 06:14:33PM -0700, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:
The above link is where I had them look and then they requested a guess for the amount of space that is needed. I tried to guess about 60 GB combined (per release for both ftp.suse.com and ftp.opensuse.org). With all the alpha's and beta's and such. I thought it was mentioned on some mail list or IRC meeting but could not find it.
Just an idea. Each directory has a directory.yast file. Could this be used and put the size in there? Or perhaps some information about size on the above link?
I think we really need to get a good idea on the size. I wish that link had it.
It would be. I can imagine something like:
10.0 Total X GB i386 X GB ISOs Y GB Repo Y GB ... 64bit X GB ... PPC X GB ... 10.1 B3 ...
That way people can decide easier what and what not to mirror.
emoenke@ftp4:4 08:35:28 /mirr/bin > du -s /pub/opensuse/distribution/* 36879960 /pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS 11746504 /pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.1-OSS-beta2 11625424 /pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.1-OSS-beta3 0 /pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-current 31232332 /pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory 0 /pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-stable emoenke@ftp4:4 08:35:48 /mirr/bin > emoenke@ftp4:4 08:47:31 /mirr/bin > du -s /pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/* 8277888 /pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/i586 11240 /pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/i686 1728992 /pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/noarch 227220 /pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/nosrc 6850752 /pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/ppc 20896 /pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/ppc64 68828 /pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/repodata 53532 /pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/setup 6522360 /pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/src 6605416 /pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/x86_64 emoenke@ftp4:4 08:47:32 /mirr/bin > You can run "rsync -vv --dry-run" on any subdirectory - it will transfer no files, but tell the file names and the total size. Cheers -e -- Eberhard Moenkeberg (emoenke@gwdg.de, em@kki.org)
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 08:49:38AM +0100, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: <snip>
That way people can decide easier what and what not to mirror.
emoenke@ftp4:4 08:35:28 /mirr/bin > du -s /pub/opensuse/distribution/*
Using `du -sh` might be more readable. ;-) <snip>
You can run "rsync -vv --dry-run" on any subdirectory - it will transfer no files, but tell the file names and the total size.
You then have to look at each and every directory. e.g. rsync -vv --dry-run rsync.opensuse.org::opensuse-full/opensuse/ gives me: drwxr-xr-x 104 2005/07/29 11:11:23 . drwxr-xr-x 256 2006/02/02 15:33:35 distribution drwxr-xr-x 112 2005/10/23 15:34:13 tools Next I need to look in distribution/ and get : drwxr-xr-x 256 2006/02/02 15:33:35 . drwxr-xr-x 368 2006/01/20 14:29:34 SL-10.0-OSS drwxr-xr-x 512 2006/01/26 09:07:04 SL-10.1-OSS-beta2 drwxr-xr-x 512 2006/02/02 08:42:35 SL-10.1-OSS-beta3 lrwxr-xr-x 18 2006/02/02 16:36:14 SL-OSS-current lrwxr-xr-x 11 2005/09/29 10:16:19 SL-OSS-stable Then I need to look in ... Not realy something somebody would like to do just to know how much space is needed. And the above is just for the openSUSE. You then also need to do it for ftp.suse.com There is a solution. When you do `rsync -vv --dry-run rsync.opensuse.org::` you get some info. Perhaps you can add the information there. That would gibe people already a partial idea. e.g. 1) The complete mirror, using the rsync module rsync.opensuse.org::opensuse-full/ Size is XY.Z GB Some more detail about it all would naturaly be very welcome. Ideas on how best to present this as well. houghi -- People will do tomorrow what they did today because that is what they did yesterday.
Hi, On Thu, 9 Feb 2006, houghi wrote:
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 08:49:38AM +0100, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: <snip>
That way people can decide easier what and what not to mirror.
emoenke@ftp4:4 08:35:28 /mirr/bin > du -s /pub/opensuse/distribution/*
Using `du -sh` might be more readable. ;-)
Not for me - only for so called "humans".
You can run "rsync -vv --dry-run" on any subdirectory - it will transfer no files, but tell the file names and the total size.
You then have to look at each and every directory. e.g. rsync -vv --dry-run rsync.opensuse.org::opensuse-full/opensuse/ gives me: drwxr-xr-x 104 2005/07/29 11:11:23 . drwxr-xr-x 256 2006/02/02 15:33:35 distribution drwxr-xr-x 112 2005/10/23 15:34:13 tools
Next I need to look in distribution/ and get : drwxr-xr-x 256 2006/02/02 15:33:35 . drwxr-xr-x 368 2006/01/20 14:29:34 SL-10.0-OSS drwxr-xr-x 512 2006/01/26 09:07:04 SL-10.1-OSS-beta2 drwxr-xr-x 512 2006/02/02 08:42:35 SL-10.1-OSS-beta3 lrwxr-xr-x 18 2006/02/02 16:36:14 SL-OSS-current lrwxr-xr-x 11 2005/09/29 10:16:19 SL-OSS-stable
Then I need to look in ...
Not realy something somebody would like to do just to know how much space is needed. And the above is just for the openSUSE. You then also need to do it for ftp.suse.com
-avv includes the whole subtree. Cheers -e -- Eberhard Moenkeberg (emoenke@gwdg.de, em@kki.org)
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 09:45:06AM +0100, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
-avv includes the whole subtree.
Thanks, rsync -avv --dry-run rsync.opensuse.org::opensuse-full <snip> sent 85 bytes received 747348 bytes 12153.38 bytes/sec total size is 61555814788 speedup is 82356.30 Still some ready information on openSUSE would be nice. I looked at `tree` but that does not tell the size of the content of the directory. Otherwise it would be very nice: tree -dsA houghi -- Just go with the flow control, roll with the crunches, and, when you get a prompt, type like hell.
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