I am destined to spend some time working in the south of France and am bringing the elements to assemble a desktop machine to run a S.U.S.E. distribution. I have to post photographic documents, spreadsheets and text to the web so others can examine my work product. Since the web was concocted in French-speaking Switzerland I guess this line of questioning could be termed lame, however: I know that they use different plugs in France, just to annoy us. I am vague on the costs and modes of connection to ISPs in France. I am guessing that once connected, the protocols of transmission are standard, but I don't know if there is any difference in obtaining a connection. I am fairly certain there is someone lurking out there who has a clear picture of these matters so: -Is there a modem card especially suitable for hooking up in France? -I used to hear tell of Minitel, is this a useful space? -What are the best services in a region such as Gard (Avignon)? -Are there in fact any real telecommunication differences from the US in EEU countries? -In the US popular use of the internet was developed by cheap availability of a local connection for long duration at what is now considered "rustyband" transfer rates, as I understand it, Europe and France in particular have a system that makes the local connection point more expensive which has restrained popular usage. -Can anyone recommend a site, or other publication, which would be useful reference? -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Hi John, I don't have the answer to all your questions, but I can tell you that worldaccess (www.worldaccess.fr) is advertising with free access to the Internet. This means you only have to pay for the telephone costs. Regards, Sander John P Carroll wrote:
I am destined to spend some time working in the south of France and am bringing the elements to assemble a desktop machine to run a S.U.S.E. distribution. I have to post photographic documents, spreadsheets and text to the web so others can examine my work product.
Since the web was concocted in French-speaking Switzerland I guess this line of questioning could be termed lame, however: I know that they use different plugs in France, just to annoy us. I am vague on the costs and modes of connection to ISPs in France. I am guessing that once connected, the protocols of transmission are standard, but I don't know if there is any difference in obtaining a connection. I am fairly certain there is someone lurking out there who has a clear picture of these matters so:
-Is there a modem card especially suitable for hooking up in France? -I used to hear tell of Minitel, is this a useful space? -What are the best services in a region such as Gard (Avignon)? -Are there in fact any real telecommunication differences from the US in EEU countries? -In the US popular use of the internet was developed by cheap availability of a local connection for long duration at what is now considered "rustyband" transfer rates, as I understand it, Europe and France in particular have a system that makes the local connection point more expensive which has restrained popular usage. -Can anyone recommend a site, or other publication, which would be useful reference?
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John P Carroll wrote:
I know that they use different plugs in France, just to annoy us.
A mains cable should not be a problem; it can be had in any hardware store; the female part is like the one you have in the US. Only do not forget to switch the PS to 230V. French phone plugs are a real piece of art and I would not know if hardware stores are allowed to sell them (devolution is still in it's early days). You should be able, however, to get one from the Telecom, probably in the form of a spare telephone cable. Open up that plug, cut off one of your RJ12 jacks and connect the red and green to the French plug. You may have to experiment a bit; the beasts I have operated on had six pins...
I am vague on the costs and modes of connection to ISPs in France. I am guessing that once connected, the protocols of transmission are standard, but I don't know if there is any difference in obtaining a connection.
Tchnically, it should work as in the US, if you're on analog; For ISDN you may need either X75 of V120, depending on the ISP.
I am fairly certain there is someone lurking out there who has a clear picture of these matters so:
-Is there a modem card especially suitable for hooking up in France? -I used to hear tell of Minitel, is this a useful space? Minitel is a V23 toy of the early eighties and you won't want to use
Not too clear, but I hope this helps ;-) that ;-)
-Are there in fact any real telecommunication differences from the US in EEU countries?
Technically, no. We may be a bit more advanced in the local loops, tho - we have no such thing as party lines. Everybody has his own number(s). Local calls are never free. JV -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
John P Carroll wrote:
I am destined to spend some time working in the south of France and am bringing the elements to assemble a desktop machine to run a S.U.S.E. distribution. I have to post photographic documents, spreadsheets and text to the web so others can examine my work product.
Since the web was concocted in French-speaking Switzerland I guess this line of questioning could be termed lame, however: I know that they use different plugs in France, just to annoy us.
hehehehe First of all you've got to realise that we do not have any such thing as telco companies we use smoke rings and bondo-drums instead. so you'll need quite specific plugs for that. :-)
I am vague on the costs and modes of connection to ISPs in France. I am guessing that once connected, the protocols of transmission are standard, but I don't know if there is any difference in obtaining a connection. I am fairly certain there is someone lurking out there who has a clear picture of these matters so:
-Is there a modem card especially suitable for hooking up in France? you will be able to buy a cable in any France Telecom shops (the ex-national telco) or probanbly a large majority of computer shops. -I used to hear tell of Minitel, is this a useful space? This system has been around since the early 80's was good for what is now called e-commerce and pay-services on-line. depleted now. do not bother.
-What are the best services in a region such as Gard (Avignon)? Almost all ISPs have got what is called a 'local number' where the fee is *rather* cheap. Some are starting to charge a monthly fee which includes a certain amount of free commection time (comm charges included).
-Are there in fact any real telecommunication differences from the US in EEU countries? No not really, everything is standard. Modems do not talk French or German or Italian or ... they talk their own international dialect. so you should be all right ?
-In the US popular use of the internet was developed by cheap availability of a local connection for long duration at what is now considered "rustyband" transfer rates, as I understand it, Europe and France in particular have a system that makes the local connection point more expensive which has restrained popular usage.
True, but this is rapidly changing. France telecom and other major telcos start to have better deals now and this will evolve rapidly. The main difference is that local loops are still owned by France Telecom. This company has been privatised only a few years ago and competition introduced on the market only @ that time. As for 'rustyband' transfert rate some town do have cable connection and ADSL is slowly introduced in major towns. In doubt that Avignon is @ the top of the priority list.
-Can anyone recommend a site, or other publication, which would be useful reference?
1. Go to Avignon, settle down, enjoy the place and it's surrounding, start relaxing. 2. Then look @ the local newspapers and see who advertise in here. If you're in a hurry simply go to a France Telecom Shop, and while you're buying a phone line ask them for their professionnal deals. You should be up & running in 48 hours if you home does not already have a phone line or in a couple of hours otherwise. Then you'll have plenty of time to choose the best provider/cheapest rates. HTH Didier
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didierg@visualgroup.com
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j.vermeulen@hot.A2000.nl
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jpcarroll@juno.com
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sander.van.vugt@azlan.nl