Hi: I dread ever trying to find anything on the Suse/Novell website. It seems so complicated. I simply want to be able to download packages of current software such as Mozilla 1.7.5 and OpenOffice 1.1.4 These are typically not updated in YOU, as YOU seems only to do bugfixes, and usually only serious ones. Just keeping up with the current versions of software such as these packages is generally not possible with Suse unless you get the next version, or install vanilla software from their originators which may break integration with the desktop by bypassing Suse's customizations. Upon some digging, I discovered through this list that there are Mozilla and Firefox RPMs compiled for Suse 9.1. However, these are not made very obvious by any links such as: "Click here for Suse developer contributed updates to important software packages not updated by YOU..." After which one could parse out to different versions, etc., with a warning that you may break your system by updating beyond the originally installed versions (ie, non-YOU updates). If for some odd reason you decide to imagine that you are seeking support rather than an updated package (that isn't available from YOU), you might type in "mozilla" here: http://portal.suse.com/PM/page/search.pm In which case you might find this page: http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2002/09/mozilla.html But noticing it "applies to 8.0" you might just as quickly disregard it. If you persist to the ftp link provided, you will get the packages. But they come in with horrible bandwidth. A typical mirror doesn't have these packages, because they aren't officially part of Suse Linux. There doesn't seem to be an update for OpenOffice. Hopefully it will work the same if I update from the OO.org vanilla packages. Basically the only way to update things is to wander aimlessly among the ftp site, hoping to find things. You would think you found the holy grail for instance here: ftp://suse.mirrors.tds.net/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/README.txt But while this has some stuff, it doesn't have this: ftp://suse.mirrors.tds.net/pub/projects/ The Novell site is a maze. Good day! -- ____________________________________ Christopher R. Carlen Principal Laser/Optical Technologist Sandia National Laboratories CA USA crcarle@sandia.gov
* Chris Carlen <crcarle@sandia.gov> [03-03-05 20:01]:
I dread ever trying to find anything on the Suse/Novell website. It seems so complicated. I simply want to be able to download packages of current software such as Mozilla 1.7.5 and OpenOffice 1.1.4
These are typically not updated in YOU, as YOU seems only to do bugfixes, and usually only serious ones. Just keeping up with the current versions of software such as these packages is generally not possible with Suse unless you get the next version, or install vanilla software from their originators which may break integration with the desktop by bypassing Suse's customizations.
Upon some digging, I discovered through this list that there are Mozilla and Firefox RPMs compiled for Suse 9.1. However, these are not made very obvious by any links such as:
Apt makes this very easy. I know that you have seen it mentioned here. try apt4rpm: http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery
Apt makes this very easy. I know that you have seen it mentioned here.
try apt4rpm: http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm
Alternatively, you might also try red carpet, which you can get at ftp://ftp.novell.com/pub/ximian/redcarpet2/ . Just look for the proper SuSE distro. Once installed, be sure to enable the channels you want and there will be plenty for you to download. Also, you can configure it to use other repositories as well. Good luck. Jack
On Friday 04 Mar 2005 01:00, Chris Carlen wrote:
I dread ever trying to find anything on the Suse/Novell website. It seems so complicated. I simply want to be able to download packages of current software such as Mozilla 1.7.5 and OpenOffice 1.1.4
By far the easist way to do all this is to install apt4rpm - http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm -- Pob hwyl / Best wishes Kevin Donnelly www.kyfieithu.co.uk - Meddalwedd Rhydd yn Gymraeg www.cymrux.org.uk - Linux Cymraeg ar un CD!
Kevin Donnelly wrote:
On Friday 04 Mar 2005 01:00, Chris Carlen wrote:
I dread ever trying to find anything on the Suse/Novell website. It seems so complicated. I simply want to be able to download packages of current software such as Mozilla 1.7.5 and OpenOffice 1.1.4
By far the easist way to do all this is to install apt4rpm - http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm
Thanks for the link. I'm not sure I want to invest time in learning how to use another layer of dependency on more developers arranging things for me. What I'd like is a system that isn't so dependent on customizations to packages that if you install the vanilla, the system breaks. Perhaps that means Slackware. Good day! -- _____________________ Christopher R. Carlen crobc@bogus-remove-me.sbcglobal.net SuSE 9.1 Linux 2.6.5
On Friday 04 Mar 2005 18:05, Chris Carlen wrote:
I'm not sure I want to invest time in learning how to use another layer of dependency on more developers arranging things for me.
No, you've got the wrong end of the stick. All apt4rpm does is list the SUSE rpms available in a number of places (as defined in your sources list), including SUSE's own repository, and allow you to install them easily with it (apt4rpm) sorting out any dependencies. In your case, it would have pointed you immediately to the new Firefox rpms for SUSE, and they would have been installed for you in little more than the time it takes to download them.
What I'd like is a system that isn't so dependent on customizations to packages that if you install the vanilla, the system breaks.
Er, this isn't the case here. You can quite happily install Firefox and OOo packages (eg the new beta) direct from the sites concerned - I have in fact posted instructions for both of these in the last few weeks in response to queries. What you can't do, by definition, is install the vanilla package and then expect it to slot into the system just as neatly as a SUSE rpm - if you ask to tweak, you then get to tweak.
Perhaps that means Slackware.
Perhaps. SUSE is a very good distro, though .... -- Pob hwyl / Best wishes Kevin Donnelly www.kyfieithu.co.uk - Meddalwedd Rhydd yn Gymraeg www.cymrux.org.uk - Linux Cymraeg ar un CD!
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