All, Was going to try the brave-browser on Leap 15.4 and followed the instruction for openSUSE on https://brave.com/linux/, but no valid metadata is found: sudo zypper ref -r brave Retrieving repository 'brave' metadata .....................................................................[error] Repository 'brave' is invalid. [brave|https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/brave-browser.repo] Valid metadata not found at specified URL History: - [brave|https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/brave-browser.repo] Repository type can't be determined. Please check if the URIs defined for this repository are pointing to a valid repository. Skipping repository 'brave' because of the above error. Could not refresh the repositories because of errors. Anybody else run into this? Is it temporary, or just something that used to work, but no longer works? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 10:02 AM David C. Rankin <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:
All,
Was going to try the brave-browser on Leap 15.4 and followed the instruction for openSUSE on https://brave.com/linux/,
No, you did not.
but no valid metadata is found:
sudo zypper ref -r brave Retrieving repository 'brave' metadata .....................................................................[error] Repository 'brave' is invalid. [brave|https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/brave-browser.repo]
This is the link to the repository description, not link to a repository.
Valid metadata not found at specified URL History: - [brave|https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/brave-browser.repo] Repository type can't be determined.
Please check if the URIs defined for this repository are pointing to a valid repository. Skipping repository 'brave' because of the above error. Could not refresh the repositories because of errors.
Anybody else run into this? Is it temporary, or just something that used to work, but no longer works?
-- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On 7/20/23 02:46, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 10:02 AM David C. Rankin <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:
All,
Was going to try the brave-browser on Leap 15.4 and followed the instruction for openSUSE on https://brave.com/linux/,
No, you did not.
Huh? I didn't? <quote> OpenSUSE sudo zypper install curl sudo rpm --import https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/brave-core.asc sudo zypper addrepo https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/brave-browser.repo sudo zypper install brave-browser </quote> -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On 2023-07-22 11:37, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 7/20/23 02:46, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 10:02 AM David C. Rankin <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:
All,
Was going to try the brave-browser on Leap 15.4 and followed the instruction for openSUSE on https://brave.com/linux/,
No, you did not.
Huh? I didn't?
<quote>
OpenSUSE
sudo zypper install curl
sudo rpm --import https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/brave-core.asc
sudo zypper addrepo https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/brave-browser.repo
sudo zypper install brave-browser
</quote>
But the *correct* instructions say different: sudo zypper addrepo --refresh https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/x86_64/ brave-browser <https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-brave-browser-on-opensuse/> Using the brave-browser.repo will give you an error, which you got. It is known for years that you don't point to the repo file, I have no idea why people post those instructions that do not work. You can, however, download the repo file and copy it to "/etc/zypp/repos.d/", that might work. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 22.07.2023 15:56, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2023-07-22 11:37, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 7/20/23 02:46, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 10:02 AM David C. Rankin <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:
All,
Was going to try the brave-browser on Leap 15.4 and followed the instruction for openSUSE on https://brave.com/linux/,
No, you did not.
Huh? I didn't?
<quote>
OpenSUSE
sudo zypper install curl
sudo rpm --import https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/brave-core.asc
sudo zypper addrepo https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/brave-browser.repo
sudo zypper install brave-browser
</quote>
But the *correct* instructions say different:
The above instructions are correct, but the OP did something different. Most likely zypper addrepo https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/brave-browser.repo brave Because if OP did what is written above, the repository name were different.
sudo zypper addrepo --refresh https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/x86_64/ brave-browser
There is more than one way to skin a cat.
<https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-brave-browser-on-opensuse/>
So you state that instructions on the home page of this browser are wrong and one must follow instructions from a random Internet post?
Using the brave-browser.repo will give you an error, which you got. It
What about trying it yourself before posting nonsense.
is known for years that you don't point to the repo file, I have no idea why people post those instructions that do not work.
You can, however, download the repo file and copy it to "/etc/zypp/repos.d/", that might work.
On 2023-07-22 15:11, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
On 22.07.2023 15:56, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2023-07-22 11:37, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 7/20/23 02:46, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 10:02 AM David C. Rankin <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:
All,
Was going to try the brave-browser on Leap 15.4 and followed the instruction for openSUSE on https://brave.com/linux/,
No, you did not.
Huh? I didn't?
<quote>
OpenSUSE
sudo zypper install curl
sudo rpm --import https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/brave-core.asc
sudo zypper addrepo https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/brave-browser.repo
sudo zypper install brave-browser
</quote>
But the *correct* instructions say different:
The above instructions are correct, but the OP did something different. Most likely
zypper addrepo https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/brave-browser.repo brave
Because if OP did what is written above, the repository name were different.
sudo zypper addrepo --refresh https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/x86_64/ brave-browser
There is more than one way to skin a cat.
<https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-brave-browser-on-opensuse/>
So you state that instructions on the home page of this browser are wrong and one must follow instructions from a random Internet post?
Apparently Masaru Nomiya followed those instructions, which worked.
Using the brave-browser.repo will give you an error, which you got. It
What about trying it yourself before posting nonsense.
I have tried many times to add repos with the repo file, they all failed. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 22.07.2023 16:22, Carlos E. R. wrote:
So you state that instructions on the home page of this browser are wrong and one must follow instructions from a random Internet post?
Apparently Masaru Nomiya followed those instructions, which worked.
And I followed instructions on the browser home page which worked. And that is not "apparently", that is "I did test it and I know they work". Your point?
Using the brave-browser.repo will give you an error, which you got. It
What about trying it yourself before posting nonsense.
I have tried many times to add repos with the repo file, they all failed.
I have no idea what you tried, but you obviously did not tried to follow the instructions on the browser home page before claiming they are wrong.
On 2023-07-22 15:52, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
On 22.07.2023 16:22, Carlos E. R. wrote:
So you state that instructions on the home page of this browser are wrong and one must follow instructions from a random Internet post?
Apparently Masaru Nomiya followed those instructions, which worked.
And I followed instructions on the browser home page which worked. And that is not "apparently", that is "I did test it and I know they work". Your point?
If you followed the same instructions as Masaru Nomiya, then my post was correct.
Using the brave-browser.repo will give you an error, which you got. It
What about trying it yourself before posting nonsense.
I have tried many times to add repos with the repo file, they all failed.
I have no idea what you tried, but you obviously did not tried to follow the instructions on the browser home page before claiming they are wrong.
-- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 7/22/23 04:37, David C. Rankin wrote:
sudo zypper addrepo https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/brave-browser.repo
Adding an alias to the end of the above command fails. The actual repo url should be provide and not a link to the metadata. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On 25.07.2023 04:13, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 7/22/23 04:37, David C. Rankin wrote:
sudo zypper addrepo https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/brave-browser.repo
Adding an alias to the end of the above command fails.
Show where instructions that you claimed to have followed tell to do so.
The actual repo url should be provide and not a link to the metadata.
If you followed the instructions you had the repo definition with the correct URL.
On 7/24/23 23:05, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
On 25.07.2023 04:13, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 7/22/23 04:37, David C. Rankin wrote:
sudo zypper addrepo https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/brave-browser.repo
Adding an alias to the end of the above command fails.
Show where instructions that you claimed to have followed tell to do so.
The actual repo url should be provide and not a link to the metadata.
If you followed the instructions you had the repo definition with the correct URL.
As stated in my very first e-mail in this thread: $ zar https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/brave-browser.repo brave Adding repository 'brave' ...................................................................................[done] Repository 'brave' successfully added URI : https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/brave-browser.repo Enabled : Yes GPG Check : Yes Autorefresh : Yes Priority : 99 (default priority) Repository priorities in effect: (See 'zypper lr -P' for details) 90 (raised priority) : 1 repository 99 (default priority) : 17 repositories Retrieving repository 'brave' metadata .....................................................................[error] Repository 'brave' is invalid. [brave|https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/brave-browser.repo] Valid metadata not found at specified URL History: - [brave|https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/brave-browser.repo] Repository type can't be determined. Please check if the URIs defined for this repository are pointing to a valid repository. Skipping repository 'brave' because of the above error. Could not refresh the repositories because of errors. and for completeness again: $ type zar zar is aliased to `zaddrepo' and $ type zaddrepo zaddrepo is a function zaddrepo () { [ -z $1 -o -z $2 ] && { printf "error: insufficient arguments.\n"; printf "usage: zar URL Alias\n"; return 1 }; if [ $UID -eq 0 ]; then zypper ar -k -f "$1" "$2" && zypper ref "$2"; else sudo zypper ar -k -f "$1" "$2" && sudo zypper ref "$2"; fi } -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 03:08:02 -0500 "David C. Rankin" <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:
On 7/24/23 23:05, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
On 25.07.2023 04:13, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 7/22/23 04:37, David C. Rankin wrote:
sudo zypper addrepo https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/brave-browser.repo
Adding an alias to the end of the above command fails.
Show where instructions that you claimed to have followed tell to do so.
The actual repo url should be provide and not a link to the metadata.
If you followed the instructions you had the repo definition with the correct URL.
As stated in my very first e-mail in this thread:
I'm confused. Your first post looks nothing like the following?
$ zar https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/brave-browser.repo brave Adding repository 'brave' ...................................................................................[done] Repository 'brave' successfully added
URI : https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/brave-browser.repo Enabled : Yes GPG Check : Yes Autorefresh : Yes Priority : 99 (default priority)
Repository priorities in effect: (See 'zypper lr -P' for details) 90 (raised priority) : 1 repository 99 (default priority) : 17 repositories Retrieving repository 'brave' metadata .....................................................................[error] Repository 'brave' is invalid. [brave|https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/brave-browser.repo] Valid metadata not found at specified URL History: - [brave|https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/brave-browser.repo] Repository type can't be determined.
Please check if the URIs defined for this repository are pointing to a valid repository. Skipping repository 'brave' because of the above error. Could not refresh the repositories because of errors.
and for completeness again:
$ type zar zar is aliased to `zaddrepo'
and
$ type zaddrepo zaddrepo is a function zaddrepo () { [ -z $1 -o -z $2 ] && { printf "error: insufficient arguments.\n"; printf "usage: zar URL Alias\n"; return 1 }; if [ $UID -eq 0 ]; then zypper ar -k -f "$1" "$2" && zypper ref "$2"; else sudo zypper ar -k -f "$1" "$2" && sudo zypper ref "$2"; fi }
On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 11:08 AM David C. Rankin <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:
On 7/24/23 23:05, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
On 25.07.2023 04:13, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 7/22/23 04:37, David C. Rankin wrote:
sudo zypper addrepo https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/brave-browser.repo
Adding an alias to the end of the above command fails.
Show where instructions that you claimed to have followed tell to do so.
The actual repo url should be provide and not a link to the metadata.
If you followed the instructions you had the repo definition with the correct URL.
As stated in my very first e-mail in this thread:
$ zar https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/brave-browser.repo brave
The very first mail in this thread states "followed the instruction for openSUSE on https://brave.com/linux/" Show me where the instructions on this site list the above command.
Hello, In the Message; Subject : brave-browser repo metadata on the fritz? Message-ID : <208e7a5f-2515-de75-1455-f5c2c8bfac15@suddenlinkmail.com> Date & Time: Thu, 20 Jul 2023 02:01:59 -0500 [DCR] == "David C. Rankin" <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> has written: DCR> All, DCR> Was going to try the brave-browser on Leap 15.4 and followed DCR> the instruction for openSUSE on https://brave.com/linux/, but no DCR> valid metadata is found: [...] DCR> sudo zypper ref -r brave DCR> Retrieving repository 'brave' metadata DCR> Anybody else run into this? Is it temporary, or just something DCR> that used to work, but no longer works? Here's how to do it right. https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-brave-browser-on-opensuse/ I use Vivaldi on my vpn and I am comfortable because Google refuses to use this combination. So I use brave as a search engine. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Maddox hopes that empowering users to pick their own algorithms will get them to think more about what’s involved in making them. " -- Bluesky's Custom Algorithms Could Be the Future of Social Media --
On 7/20/23 03:24, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
Here's how to do it right.
https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-brave-browser-on-opensuse/
I use Vivaldi on my vpn and I am comfortable because Google refuses to use this combination. So I use brave as a search engine.
Thank you both, I just needed another browser for a web backend I'm working on where I need to be able to login from two different sessions for efficient testing and development. Never having tried brave I was going to give it a go. In the interim I installed opera which I haven't used in a decade. Nice security focused chrome clone. I've tried vivaldi and like it -- but at the time 5-7 years ago, it still had some growing to do and a nasty tendency to phone-home. I'll have to check that one out too. Since chromium is still crippled by google -- I pretty much just wrote that one off. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On 2023-07-20 11:59, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 7/20/23 03:24, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
Here's how to do it right.
https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-brave-browser-on-opensuse/
I use Vivaldi on my vpn and I am comfortable because Google refuses to use this combination. So I use brave as a search engine.
Thank you both,
I just needed another browser for a web backend I'm working on where I need to be able to login from two different sessions for efficient testing and development. Never having tried brave I was going to give it a go.
You can start different profiles of firefox at the same time. They are independent. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 7/20/23 06:46, Carlos E. R. wrote:
hank you both,
I just needed another browser for a web backend I'm working on where I need to be able to login from two different sessions for efficient testing and development. Never having tried brave I was going to give it a go.
You can start different profiles of firefox at the same time. They are independent.
Hmm, hadn't thought about different profiles supporting different sessions. That's an option. As far as brave-browser goes, don't bother unless you like a 1" tall hot-pink wholly unnecessary bar splashed across the top of your screen. Configured it, then couldn't stomach the look and nuked it and it's keyring. I might as well be chrome with all the crapola it tries to send by to brave. Now I have to find out where it configured itself as the default browser and nuke that too. Damn inconsiderate... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On 2023-07-21 05:13, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 7/20/23 06:46, Carlos E. R. wrote:
hank you both,
I just needed another browser for a web backend I'm working on where I need to be able to login from two different sessions for efficient testing and development. Never having tried brave I was going to give it a go.
You can start different profiles of firefox at the same time. They are independent.
Hmm, hadn't thought about different profiles supporting different sessions. That's an option.
You start it once with: firefox --ProfileManager & and you create a different profile. Then you can start it directly, or with the profile manager: firefox -P Ggle_main --no-remote & firefox -P Amazon & Sometimes it seems I need the no remote, sometimes not. Maybe it was something I needed in the past, not now, but it is remembered in the command line history ;-) I manage to open at least 3 instances, sometimes 4. Apparently there is a "limit" on a resource it needs and I can't open more. /etc/security/limits.conf: #cer soft nofile 2048 #cer hard nofile 2048 cer soft nofile 65536 cer hard nofile 65536 -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 7/21/23 06:41, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Hmm, hadn't thought about different profiles supporting different sessions. That's an option.
You start it once with:
firefox --ProfileManager &
and you create a different profile. Then you can start it directly, or with the profile manager:
firefox -P Ggle_main --no-remote & firefox -P Amazon &
Yep, Got all that -- and even had a couple of profiles from the big config switch days at version 59 (or somewhere around there). The part I missed was starting firefox with different profiles providing different PHP session_id() for each profile -- which would allow the testing of different accounts from the same browser using different user_id without having to worry about errors from the unique-constraint I placed on session_id in the postgres sessions table backend. All and all the browser comparison was a good exercise. I hadn't done that in a decade. Bottom line is you now have 2 browsers (basically). You have: Firefox (mozilla) Chromium (all others with different UIs wrapped around them) (there are Qt based browers like falkon I should probably look at) The only difference between the chromium crowd of browsers are the options they offer and the attention to detail in their UI. So far Opera wins the chromium type browser war. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On 2023-07-21 22:44, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 7/21/23 06:41, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Hmm, hadn't thought about different profiles supporting different sessions. That's an option.
You start it once with:
firefox --ProfileManager &
and you create a different profile. Then you can start it directly, or with the profile manager:
firefox -P Ggle_main --no-remote & firefox -P Amazon &
Yep,
Got all that -- and even had a couple of profiles from the big config switch days at version 59 (or somewhere around there). The part I missed was starting firefox with different profiles providing different PHP session_id() for each profile -- which would allow the testing of different accounts from the same browser using different user_id without having to worry about errors from the unique-constraint I placed on session_id in the postgres sessions table backend.
If you need to be absolutely sure nothing is shared between profiles, just start a second FF under a different user.
All and all the browser comparison was a good exercise. I hadn't done that in a decade. Bottom line is you now have 2 browsers (basically). You have:
Firefox (mozilla) Chromium (all others with different UIs wrapped around them) (there are Qt based browers like falkon I should probably look at)
The only difference between the chromium crowd of browsers are the options they offer and the attention to detail in their UI.
So far Opera wins the chromium type browser war.
When I have to, I use the true Chrome. The reason is, if there is a web that fails under FF, try the proprietary browser. There is a fair chance that those bad web developers tested with Chrome. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)
* David C. Rankin <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> [07-20-23 23:13]:
On 7/20/23 06:46, Carlos E. R. wrote:
hank you both,
I just needed another browser for a web backend I'm working on where I need to be able to login from two different sessions for efficient testing and development. Never having tried brave I was going to give it a go.
You can start different profiles of firefox at the same time. They are independent.
Hmm, hadn't thought about different profiles supporting different sessions. That's an option.
As far as brave-browser goes, don't bother unless you like a 1" tall hot-pink wholly unnecessary bar splashed across the top of your screen.
cannot say I have *ever* seen what you describe
Configured it, then couldn't stomach the look and nuked it and it's keyring. I might as well be chrome with all the crapola it tries to send by to brave.
lacking configuration skills? http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/Screenshot_20230721_110023.png
Now I have to find out where it configured itself as the default browser and nuke that too. Damn inconsiderate...
... -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
On 7/21/23 10:02, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
cannot say I have*ever* seen what you describe
Configured it, then couldn't stomach the look and nuked it and it's keyring. I might as well be chrome with all the crapola it tries to send by to brave. lacking configuration skills? http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/Screenshot_20230721_110023.png
I could stomach that (and probably overlook the 88MB of data it tucks away under ~/.config but I had a 1" pink gradient bar with 5 icons in it splashed across just below where you have your bookmark toolbar. Now I disable the bookmark toolbar, and that may be the difference. The issue has been around: https://community.brave.com/t/could-it-be-possible-to-change-the-color-of-th... (I could not find where to turn that top-bar off -- so maybe I am lacking the brave config skills) If you know how to remove that thing -- I'll give it another shot. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
* David C. Rankin <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> [07-21-23 17:11]:
On 7/21/23 10:02, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
cannot say I have*ever* seen what you describe
Configured it, then couldn't stomach the look and nuked it and it's keyring. I might as well be chrome with all the crapola it tries to send by to brave. lacking configuration skills? http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~paka/Screenshot_20230721_110023.png
I could stomach that (and probably overlook the 88MB of data it tucks away under ~/.config but I had a 1" pink gradient bar with 5 icons in it splashed across just below where you have your bookmark toolbar.
Now I disable the bookmark toolbar, and that may be the difference. The issue has been around:
https://community.brave.com/t/could-it-be-possible-to-change-the-color-of-th...
(I could not find where to turn that top-bar off -- so maybe I am lacking the brave config skills)
If you know how to remove that thing -- I'll give it another shot.
I have no idea what "top-bar" is referring or it was not there be default on my install. I do have "use system title-bar and borders" selected. see a youtube video to display bottom tool bar but there is no "bottom tool bar" option available in my brave-browser. ps: I now use brave as my browser rather than ff. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
On 7/21/23 16:20, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
If you know how to remove that thing -- I'll give it another shot. I have no idea what "top-bar" is referring or it was not there be default on my install. I do have "use system title-bar and borders" selected.
see a youtube video to display bottom tool bar but there is no "bottom tool bar" option available in my brave-browser.
ps: I now use brave as my browser rather than ff.
It's the top-bar in "Settings" - is yours not hot pink? Re-installed - rest of the browser is fine. My upload own image from dashboard doesn't work - but I have sponsored images turned off and javascript turned of (I enable on a site-by-site basis). Browser looks fine -- I spent so much time in settings tweaking it -- I though the hot-pink top of settings was part of the display.... I didn't enable native title-bar, just saves the extra 30px or so. Browses just fine -- I don't use any features that, for the most part, that were not already in FF3 - so as long as basic browsing works and it looks good and I can nuke ads and control what info gets "phoned home" - then I'm happy with it! -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
* David C. Rankin <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> [07-22-23 05:53]:
On 7/21/23 16:20, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
If you know how to remove that thing -- I'll give it another shot. I have no idea what "top-bar" is referring or it was not there be default on my install. I do have "use system title-bar and borders" selected.
see a youtube video to display bottom tool bar but there is no "bottom tool bar" option available in my brave-browser.
ps: I now use brave as my browser rather than ff.
It's the top-bar in "Settings" - is yours not hot pink? Re-installed - rest of the browser is fine.
I guess it is. but, as I find little use for "settings" after initial install, it doesn't bother me.
My upload own image from dashboard doesn't work - but I have sponsored images turned off and javascript turned of (I enable on a site-by-site basis).
Browser looks fine -- I spent so much time in settings tweaking it -- I though the hot-pink top of settings was part of the display....
I didn't enable native title-bar, just saves the extra 30px or so. Browses just fine -- I don't use any features that, for the most part, that were not already in FF3 - so as long as basic browsing works and it looks good and I can nuke ads and control what info gets "phoned home" - then I'm happy with it!
I also tried vivaldi and falcone and ... and returned to brave, but keep firefox in reserve and also waterfox (you should try it). -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
On 7/22/23 08:40, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
I also tried vivaldi and falcone and ... and returned to brave, but keep firefox in reserve and also waterfox (you should try it).
Done waterfox (fine with it -- I just have to keep it updated) and tor (but I'm not a black-hat, so nothing of interest there). I guess it's been 5-7? years since I tried waterfox last. There was an IceWeasel debian fork for firefox too - though not sure what became of that. I think I've covered the once a decade browser round-up (at least for me). Lot's of capable browsers out there, biggest take-away is all (other than falkon) have an enormous amount of cruft and store an enormous amount of data (beyond just page cache info) and all setting must be gone through with a fine-toothed comb to turn off 95% of stuff that never needed to be in a browser to begin with. Once you accept that reality -- just about any of the browsers will do. (FF remains my daily driver) (I did grab waterfox G5.1.9 -- just for the sake of completeness, if it has anything remarkable to note, I'll drop a follow-up, otherwise it falls into the same category as the rest) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On 7/20/23 03:24, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
I use Vivaldi on my vpn and I am comfortable because Google refuses to use this combination. So I use brave as a search engine.
Masaru, I tried vivaldi -- it's okay, but you can't remove the separate search box from the address bar and you don't have per-site javascript settings (at least that I can find) This past 24 hours I've tried opera, brave and vivaldi (all chromium variants). Removed brave -- hot pink isn't my thing, but as between opera and vivaldi, I like opera quite a bit more. Now to be fair, I've used opera in the past, as it was competing for users against netscape and then firefox and MSIE. I don't recall exactly what happened, but some time around the same time as the Microsoft deal (2005? ish), opera moved to a more closed-source posture and it more or less dropped out of the browser wars. I really liked it back then as a 2nd browser, FF as my first. This current version, opera-99.0.4788.13, is damn slick. By far the more polished UI between it and vivaldi and it has per-site config for about all security/privacy block settings. So, my $0.02 on current browsers: 1. Firefox 2. Opera 3. Vivaldi (both firefox and opera you can simply zypper in without adding additional repos) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
On 7/20/23 23:25, David C. Rankin wrote:
So, my $0.02 on current browsers:
1. Firefox 2. Opera 3. Vivaldi
(both firefox and opera you can simply zypper in without adding additional repos)
Only major annoyance with opera is that it is too dumb to remember what size its window was the last time you closed it down (has been a complaint about opera for years) But... that doesn't take away from the polished look once you have it open and resize the window (again...). -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
Hello, Sorry for late reply. I've been away for a while. In the Message; Subject : Re: brave-browser repo metadata on the fritz? Message-ID : <cf6dd311-1ff4-93f9-32ac-d9f9f2bec067@suddenlinkmail.com> Date & Time: Thu, 20 Jul 2023 23:25:17 -0500 [DCR] == "David C. Rankin" <drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com> has written: DCR> On 7/20/23 03:24, Masaru Nomiya wrote: MN>> I use Vivaldi on my vpn and I am comfortable because Google refuses to MN>> use this combination. So I use brave as a search engine. DCR> Masaru, DCR> I tried vivaldi -- it's okay, but you can't remove the DCR> separate search box from the address bar and you don't have DCR> per-site javascript settings (at least that I can find) I'm sure.... DCR> This past 24 hours I've tried opera, brave and vivaldi (all DCR> chromium variants). Removed brave -- hot pink isn't my thing, DCR> but as between opera and vivaldi, I like opera quite a bit more. [...] DCR> So, my $0.02 on current browsers: DCR> 1. Firefox DCR> 2. Opera DCR> 3. Vivaldi DCR> (both firefox and opera you can simply zypper in without adding DCR> additional repos) I was very surprised when I came home last evening and saw your e-mail. I have never seen such a stringent demand for a browser. Are these severe demands related to your work? Anyway, I installed Opera and stayed up late, which I shouldn't have done, to configure it. In conclusion, I decided not to use Opera for the following reasons; 1. I use enlightenment for WM, where the focus moves with the position of the mouse pointer, but for some reason, with Opera, the mouse pointer is transparent to Opera and what is behind Opera comes to the surface, This is very difficult to use. 2. As a test, when I try to watch a news video, I get the following error on some sites; 2-1. cannot be viewed with this browser or, 2-2. this news is currently unavailable The messages appears on some sites. However, I can watch them on vivaldi without any problem, so I tried to find the cause of the problem, but could not figure it out at all. One site takes me to youtube, hoping that this will explain the problem. But on youtube, I can watch the news videos without any problem. I was surprised that Google let me through with only one robot check, but I'm not going to struggle anymore. Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ lake.dti.ne.jp ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Maddox hopes that empowering users to pick their own algorithms will get them to think more about what’s involved in making them. " -- Bluesky's Custom Algorithms Could Be the Future of Social Media --
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