[opensuse] Printing a PDF from Libreoffice and from Ocular
What is the trick to be able to successfully print a PDF file from (a) Ocular and (b) from Libreoffice? The question really relates to the the selection of page numbers when printing a range of pages. For example, I opened a PDF file in ocular and selected a range of pages to print --eg, 53 to 85 but the printing started from page 42 (I watched as the pages were being printed so stopped the job before too many pages [and ink] were wasted. The same happened (but with a different PDF file) when the file was opened in Libreoffice. At the bottom of the displayed page it shows the correct page number as the start page for the pp range I want to print but the printing begins from a different page (similar to the experience with Ocular). I also notice that with Libreoffice the left hand column displays a 'slideshow' page number but using these page numbers produced even mare wasted paper. The question therefore is: is there a "trick" in selecting the correct starting/ending pages to be printed when a PDF file is opened in either Ocular or LibreOffice? All help most appreciated. BC -- All things are possible, except skiing through a revolving door. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 06/02/2020 07.40, Basil Chupin wrote:
What is the trick to be able to successfully print a PDF file from (a) Ocular and (b) from Libreoffice?
The question really relates to the the selection of page numbers when printing a range of pages. For example, I opened a PDF file in ocular and selected a range of pages to print --eg, 53 to 85 but the printing started from page 42 (I watched as the pages were being printed so stopped the job before too many pages [and ink] were wasted.
The same happened (but with a different PDF file) when the file was opened in Libreoffice. At the bottom of the displayed page it shows the correct page number as the start page for the pp range I want to print but the printing begins from a different page (similar to the experience with Ocular). I also notice that with Libreoffice the left hand column displays a 'slideshow' page number but using these page numbers produced even mare wasted paper.
The question therefore is: is there a "trick" in selecting the correct starting/ending pages to be printed when a PDF file is opened in either Ocular or LibreOffice?
It works for me. But in PDF the printed page number may not be the actual page count, so you have to be careful. Now, if you can link to the file in question, I can try. That said, I have not used ocular for printing recently. It has been evince, Foxit, or even acrobat. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Le 06/02/2020 à 08:51, Carlos E.R. a écrit :
But in PDF the printed page number may not be the actual page count, so you have to be careful.
yes, in a book, there are unnumbered pages. AFAIK, in LibreOffice or Ocular there is somewhere an indication of the page number from the software count (different from what is written on the page). that said, your difference is hudge. I guess it may be a page setup problem: if a printed page is too large for the paper, we have too sheets for each page. look at the option "scale" or "fit on the page" jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 08:51:49 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
That said, I have not used ocular for printing recently. It has been evince, Foxit, or even acrobat.
Carlos, May I ask which version of acrobat did you use and in what version of openSUSE? Because I wanted set up adobe reader (acroread) in 15.1 but I could not. Thanks, Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 06/02/2020 14.29, Istvan Gabor wrote:
On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 08:51:49 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
That said, I have not used ocular for printing recently. It has been evince, Foxit, or even acrobat.
Carlos,
May I ask which version of acrobat did you use and in what version of openSUSE? Because I wanted set up adobe reader (acroread) in 15.1 but I could not.
Oh, I can not run acroread in 15.1 either. When I have to, I boot to an older release, or use a virtual machine with it. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 6/2/20 6:51 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 06/02/2020 07.40, Basil Chupin wrote:
What is the trick to be able to successfully print a PDF file from (a) Ocular and (b) from Libreoffice?
The question really relates to the the selection of page numbers when printing a range of pages. For example, I opened a PDF file in ocular and selected a range of pages to print --eg, 53 to 85 but the printing started from page 42 (I watched as the pages were being printed so stopped the job before too many pages [and ink] were wasted.
The same happened (but with a different PDF file) when the file was opened in Libreoffice. At the bottom of the displayed page it shows the correct page number as the start page for the pp range I want to print but the printing begins from a different page (similar to the experience with Ocular). I also notice that with Libreoffice the left hand column displays a 'slideshow' page number but using these page numbers produced even mare wasted paper.
The question therefore is: is there a "trick" in selecting the correct starting/ending pages to be printed when a PDF file is opened in either Ocular or LibreOffice?
It works for me.
What "works for [you]"? :-)
But in PDF the printed page number may not be the actual page count, so you have to be careful.
Now, if you can link to the file in question, I can try.
If you are that keen then the file is downloadable from- https://www.gearbest.com/blog/download/huawei-mate-30-series-user-manual-in-...
That said, I have not used ocular for printing recently. It has been evince, Foxit, or even acrobat.
Never heard of evince nor Foxit but acrobat I've used before. I'll look up evince and Foxit. BC -- All things are possible, except skiing through a revolving door. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 07/02/2020 07.22, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 6/2/20 6:51 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 06/02/2020 07.40, Basil Chupin wrote:
What is the trick to be able to successfully print a PDF file from (a) Ocular and (b) from Libreoffice?
The question really relates to the the selection of page numbers when printing a range of pages. For example, I opened a PDF file in ocular and selected a range of pages to print --eg, 53 to 85 but the printing started from page 42 (I watched as the pages were being printed so stopped the job before too many pages [and ink] were wasted.
The same happened (but with a different PDF file) when the file was opened in Libreoffice. At the bottom of the displayed page it shows the correct page number as the start page for the pp range I want to print but the printing begins from a different page (similar to the experience with Ocular). I also notice that with Libreoffice the left hand column displays a 'slideshow' page number but using these page numbers produced even mare wasted paper.
The question therefore is: is there a "trick" in selecting the correct starting/ending pages to be printed when a PDF file is opened in either Ocular or LibreOffice?
It works for me.
What "works for [you]"? :-)
Printing, both PDF or LO. No "tricks". I always get the pages I want. If not, it is always my mistake. Ah, you say printing a PDF that has be opened in LO? I never do that, bound to fail.
But in PDF the printed page number may not be the actual page count, so you have to be careful.
Now, if you can link to the file in question, I can try.
If you are that keen then the file is downloadable from-
https://www.gearbest.com/blog/download/huawei-mate-30-series-user-manual-in-... Nay,
it wants me to register. Can you email it off list, please?
That said, I have not used ocular for printing recently. It has been evince, Foxit, or even acrobat.
Never heard of evince nor Foxit but acrobat I've used before.
I'll look up evince and Foxit.
Evince comes in the distro with XFCE. Foxit is external, proprietary (freemium), and is currently one of the best alternatives to acrobat we can get in Linux. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxit_Software> --> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxit_Reader> --> <https://www.foxitsoftware.com/downloads/> -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 7/2/20 7:10 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 07/02/2020 07.22, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 6/2/20 6:51 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 06/02/2020 07.40, Basil Chupin wrote:
What is the trick to be able to successfully print a PDF file from (a) Ocular and (b) from Libreoffice?
The question really relates to the the selection of page numbers when printing a range of pages. For example, I opened a PDF file in ocular and selected a range of pages to print --eg, 53 to 85 but the printing started from page 42 (I watched as the pages were being printed so stopped the job before too many pages [and ink] were wasted.
The same happened (but with a different PDF file) when the file was opened in Libreoffice. At the bottom of the displayed page it shows the correct page number as the start page for the pp range I want to print but the printing begins from a different page (similar to the experience with Ocular). I also notice that with Libreoffice the left hand column displays a 'slideshow' page number but using these page numbers produced even mare wasted paper.
The question therefore is: is there a "trick" in selecting the correct starting/ending pages to be printed when a PDF file is opened in either Ocular or LibreOffice?
It works for me.
What "works for [you]"? :-)
Printing, both PDF or LO. No "tricks". I always get the pages I want. If not, it is always my mistake.
Ah, you say printing a PDF that has be opened in LO? I never do that, bound to fail.
But in PDF the printed page number may not be the actual page count, so you have to be careful.
Now, if you can link to the file in question, I can try.
If you are that keen then the file is downloadable from-
https://www.gearbest.com/blog/download/huawei-mate-30-series-user-manual-in-...
Nay,
it wants me to register. Can you email it off list, please?
Me thinks I gave you a different URL to the one I used. Try this one from Huawei itself: https://consumer.huawei.com/au/support/phones/mate30-pro/ the file is about the 6th line from the top of page.
That said, I have not used ocular for printing recently. It has been evince, Foxit, or even acrobat.
Never heard of evince nor Foxit but acrobat I've used before.
I'll look up evince and Foxit.
Evince comes in the distro with XFCE.
Don't use XFCE. Hate rats.
Foxit is external, proprietary (freemium), and is currently one of the best alternatives to acrobat we can get in Linux.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxit_Software> --> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxit_Reader> --> <https://www.foxitsoftware.com/downloads/>
Sorry, can't see a copy forLinux/Leap and I don't the time to try and work out a way to adapt Foxit for Leap :-). BC -- All things are possible, except skiing through a revolving door. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> [02-07-20 21:46]:
On 7/2/20 7:10 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 07/02/2020 07.22, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 6/2/20 6:51 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 06/02/2020 07.40, Basil Chupin wrote:
What is the trick to be able to successfully print a PDF file from (a) Ocular and (b) from Libreoffice?
The question really relates to the the selection of page numbers when printing a range of pages. For example, I opened a PDF file in ocular and selected a range of pages to print --eg, 53 to 85 but the printing started from page 42 (I watched as the pages were being printed so stopped the job before too many pages [and ink] were wasted.
The same happened (but with a different PDF file) when the file was opened in Libreoffice. At the bottom of the displayed page it shows the correct page number as the start page for the pp range I want to print but the printing begins from a different page (similar to the experience with Ocular). I also notice that with Libreoffice the left hand column displays a 'slideshow' page number but using these page numbers produced even mare wasted paper.
The question therefore is: is there a "trick" in selecting the correct starting/ending pages to be printed when a PDF file is opened in either Ocular or LibreOffice?
It works for me.
What "works for [you]"? :-)
Printing, both PDF or LO. No "tricks". I always get the pages I want. If not, it is always my mistake.
Ah, you say printing a PDF that has be opened in LO? I never do that, bound to fail.
But in PDF the printed page number may not be the actual page count, so you have to be careful.
Now, if you can link to the file in question, I can try.
If you are that keen then the file is downloadable from-
https://www.gearbest.com/blog/download/huawei-mate-30-series-user-manual-in-...
Nay,
it wants me to register. Can you email it off list, please?
Me thinks I gave you a different URL to the one I used. Try this one from Huawei itself:
https://consumer.huawei.com/au/support/phones/mate30-pro/
the file is about the 6th line from the top of page.
so you need to add 5 to the page start and page end to get the printed document starting with the document's Page 1. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 8/2/20 2:15 pm, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> [02-07-20 21:46]:
On 7/2/20 7:10 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 07/02/2020 07.22, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 6/2/20 6:51 pm, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 06/02/2020 07.40, Basil Chupin wrote:
What is the trick to be able to successfully print a PDF file from (a) Ocular and (b) from Libreoffice?
The question really relates to the the selection of page numbers when printing a range of pages. For example, I opened a PDF file in ocular and selected a range of� pages to print --eg, 53 to 85 but the printing started from page 42 (I watched as the pages were being printed so stopped the job before too many pages [and ink] were wasted.
The same happened (but with a different PDF file) when the file was opened in Libreoffice. At the bottom of the displayed page it shows the correct page number as the start page for the pp range I want to print but the printing begins from a different page (similar to the experience with Ocular). I also notice that with Libreoffice the left hand column displays a 'slideshow' page number but using these page numbers produced even mare wasted paper.
The question therefore is: is there a "trick" in selecting the correct starting/ending pages to be printed when a PDF file is opened in either Ocular or LibreOffice?
It works for me.
What "works for [you]"? :-) Printing, both PDF or LO. No "tricks". I always get the pages I want. If not, it is always my mistake.
Ah, you say printing a PDF that has be opened in LO? I never do that, bound to fail.
But in PDF the printed page number may not be the actual page count, so you have to be careful.
Now, if you can link to the file in question, I can try.
If you are that keen then the file is downloadable from-
https://www.gearbest.com/blog/download/huawei-mate-30-series-user-manual-in-...
Nay, it wants me to register. Can you email it off list, please?
Me thinks I gave you a different URL to the one I used. Try this one from Huawei itself:
https://consumer.huawei.com/au/support/phones/mate30-pro/
the file is about the 6th line from the top of page. so you need to add 5 to the page start and page end to get the printed document starting with the document's Page 1.
Why 5, Patrick? There is the cover and then there are pages numbered i to iii. So does one add another page to indicate the start to be (actual) page 1? Does this mean that if I wanted to print starting from page 53 I would instruct the printer to start from page 58? Confused (or another way of putting it, "those darn chemo tablets I am swallowing are messing me up") :-). BC -- All things are possible, except skiing through a revolving door. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 08/02/2020 05.57, Basil Chupin wrote: | On 8/2/20 2:15 pm, Patrick Shanahan wrote: |> * Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> [02-07-20 21:46]: |>> On 7/2/20 7:10 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote: |>> Me thinks I gave you a different URL to the one I used. Try |>> this one from Huawei itself: |>> |>> |>> https://consumer.huawei.com/au/support/phones/mate30-pro/ |>> |>> |>> the file is about the 6th line from the top of page. |> so you need to add 5 to the page start and page end to get the |> printed document starting with the document's Page 1. | | | Why 5, Patrick? There is the cover and then there are pages | numbered i to iii. So does one add another page to indicate the | start to be (actual) page 1? | | Does this mean that if I wanted to print starting from page 53 I | would instruct the printer to start from page 58? 57, Yes. Use preview to verify. | | Confused (or another way of putting it, "those darn chemo tablets I | am swallowing are messing me up") :-). You just count them, from the start of the file there are 4 pages. Notice that "contents" is page "II", because there is a "cover" page before that. "Essentials" is page 5. Okular doesn't look at the page number, it just counts them. As you must. Yes, they could show a little window with the actual page number shown. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXj6YGgAKCRC1MxgcbY1H 1dXSAJ9vsz97gcesugj1NsIimvy0F8Ph3QCeNFc7f44Yt3ljtp7vvipw0/BGEVo= =X6+l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> [02-07-20 23:59]: [...]
Why 5, Patrick? There is the cover and then there are pages numbered i to iii. So does one add another page to indicate the start to be (actual) page 1?
it was late, Mexican lunch, ... I though I saw five Roman Numeral number pages in the preamble.
Does this mean that if I wanted to print starting from page 53 I would instruct the printer to start from page 58?
you have it.
Confused (or another way of putting it, "those darn chemo tablets I am swallowing are messing me up") :-).
hope you only have to do one round. the second is not comfortable (or the first for that matter). -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 8/2/20 11:54 pm, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> [02-07-20 23:59]: [...]
Why 5, Patrick? There is the cover and then there are pages numbered i to iii. So does one add another page to indicate the start to be (actual) page 1? it was late, Mexican lunch, ... I though I saw five Roman Numeral number pages in the preamble.
Does this mean that if I wanted to print starting from page 53 I would instruct the printer to start from page 58? you have it.
OK
Confused (or another way of putting it, "those darn chemo tablets I am
swallowing are messing me up") :-). hope you only have to do one round. the second is not comfortable (or the first for that matter).
I am half-way thru the second cycle. At the end of the third an MRI is done which decides how many more are required. BC -- All things are possible, except skiing through a revolving door. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> [02-08-20 20:29]:
On 8/2/20 11:54 pm, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> [02-07-20 23:59]: [...]
Why 5, Patrick? There is the cover and then there are pages numbered i to iii. So does one add another page to indicate the start to be (actual) page 1? it was late, Mexican lunch, ... I though I saw five Roman Numeral number pages in the preamble.
Does this mean that if I wanted to print starting from page 53 I would instruct the printer to start from page 58? you have it.
OK
Confused (or another way of putting it, "those darn chemo tablets I am
swallowing are messing me up") :-). hope you only have to do one round. the second is not comfortable (or the first for that matter).
I am half-way thru the second cycle. At the end of the third an MRI is done which decides how many more are required.
A year of pills and iv's, then two years latter 2/3 section of liver, 26 years ago ... -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2020-02-07 11:57 p.m., Basil Chupin wrote:
Why 5, Patrick? There is the cover and then there are pages numbered i to iii. So does one add another page to indicate the start to be (actual) page 1?
Your mistake lies in your textual expression of what you want done. Above you said "actual page 1". What you meant was the page that was *labelled* "1". When I create a document with a tool like LibreOffice I can decide that I want the first page of my document to be labelled "First" , "Second" .. if I so wish, rather than numbers or Roman numerals. I can even select Greek or Turkish or Russian numbering! more to the point, I can over-ride it arbitrarily at any point. It is just a label. Hopefully it follows some sort of convention about sequencing. Hhaving stuff in a book BEFORE the "page 1" of the written content is perfectly normal. The plate, dedication, copyright information, perhaps even a short note by the author. I'm reading Ken Follett's "Pillars of Earth" at the moment and his "in italics" frontispiece on how he came to write the book runs to 7 pages. There's then a blank page so that the book, proper, "begins" with a quotation from a comentary on the Doomsday book on the left and the start of the text of the story on the right. This is to make it visually balanced. Thus the start of the story, the logical page "1", labelled so and referred to as such in the index, which also precedes that "author's note" is nearly 20 pages from the cover. As far s I've read. the book is linear in time, but that doesn't have to be so. I've read books where there are inserts, sometimes whole chapters of "backstory", perhaps flashbacks, perhaps about the characters growing up. I suppose if the pages were "by date" it would make sense to the narration, help you understand the sequence of events, but would be confusing as it would have redundancies: there would be duplication of the page-date when describing what happened to two or more characters quite separately. While I suppose some avant-garde novelist might try this it IS unconventional but does emphasise my point that the pages are labels and the first page of a 'document' need not be labelled "1". more to the point: YOU may start writing with the defaults that label the first page of you writing "1", but then at a later date an index gets generated and inserted BEFORE the first page of your writing. The first page of your writing is now the 5th page of the document. In fact LO has the option to omit the page number from the first page (or any page, not I come to look at edit style) of your witting. Now I'm wondering ... Can I do "Chapter 4, page 5" style? Can I do "5.1" style? See file:///usr/share/libreoffice/help/en-US/text/swriter/guide/pagenumbers.html?DbPAR=WRITER#bm_id5918759 Start with a defined page number <META> Out of "Alice" many programming texts go to lengths to explain that an object is not it's name, it may not even be 'refereed to' by it's name, and in fact it may have a 'label' quite different from both that it is named and how it is called. As one great programmer comment, you may call by name or call by value. A name is arbitrary. A label is equally arbitrary. That has been the basis of a few thriller novels. </META> -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 08/02/2020 14.52, Anton Aylward wrote: | On 2020-02-07 11:57 p.m., Basil Chupin wrote: |> Why 5, Patrick? There is the cover and then there are pages |> numbered i to iii. So does one add another page to indicate the |> start to be (actual) page 1? | | Your mistake lies in your textual expression of what you want | done. | | Above you said "actual page 1". What you meant was the page that | was *labelled* "1". | | When I create a document with a tool like LibreOffice I can decide | that I want the first page of my document to be labelled "First" , | "Second" .. if I so wish, rather than numbers or Roman numerals. I | can even select Greek or Turkish or Russian numbering! | | more to the point, I can over-ride it arbitrarily at any point. | | It is just a label. Hopefully it follows some sort of convention | about sequencing. | | Hhaving stuff in a book BEFORE the "page 1" of the written content | is perfectly normal. Interestingly for me, not in Spain, at least in the past. Now I see it in translated books. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXj7uIgAKCRC1MxgcbY1H 1UxXAJ9iErla+ema6XkVI7EfJ+7af3gg4QCfebJ4oo0DgNokWrMrvYDvLZH8kSQ= =tuoj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 08/02/2020 à 03:44, Basil Chupin a écrit :
https://consumer.huawei.com/au/support/phones/mate30-pro/
the file is about the 6th line from the top of page.
my okular lists the true page number *and* the printed page number https://www.cjoint.com/doc/20_02/JBih4prKAVk_Screenshot-20200208-085547.jpeg (nut okular can't give the print preview - (V1.6.3 leap 15.1) jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 8/2/20 6:59 pm, jdd@dodin.org wrote:
Le 08/02/2020 à 03:44, Basil Chupin a écrit :
https://consumer.huawei.com/au/support/phones/mate30-pro/
the file is about the 6th line from the top of page.
my okular lists the true page number *and* the printed page number
https://www.cjoint.com/doc/20_02/JBih4prKAVk_Screenshot-20200208-085547.jpeg
(nut okular can't give the print preview - (V1.6.3 leap 15.1)
jdd
Yes, Okular 1.6.3 "hangs" when U select print preview and eventually comes up with the error msg stating "Could not load print preview part". Luvly. BC -- All things are possible, except skiing through a revolving door. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 08/02/2020 08.59, jdd@dodin.org wrote:
Le 08/02/2020 à 03:44, Basil Chupin a écrit :
https://consumer.huawei.com/au/support/phones/mate30-pro/
the file is about the 6th line from the top of page.
my okular lists the true page number *and* the printed page number
https://www.cjoint.com/doc/20_02/JBih4prKAVk_Screenshot-20200208-085547.jpeg
So it does, yes.
(nut okular can't give the print preview - (V1.6.3 leap 15.1)
It goes to 100% CPU. Better use Evince :-P -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 08/02/2020 03.44, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 7/2/20 7:10 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:
But in PDF the printed page number may not be the actual page count, so you have to be careful.
Now, if you can link to the file in question, I can try.
If you are that keen then the file is downloadable from-
https://www.gearbest.com/blog/download/huawei-mate-30-series-user-manual-in-...
Nay,
it wants me to register. Can you email it off list, please?
Me thinks I gave you a different URL to the one I used. Try this one from Huawei itself:
https://consumer.huawei.com/au/support/phones/mate30-pro/
the file is about the 6th line from the top of page.
21 megs. Yes, this file has a (4 pages) Roman number preamble. To print page 1 you have to ask to print page *5* instead. Just verify by using preview. It fooled me for a bit. Printed thus fine with Evince. Okular went into 100% CPU for a minute or two before printing anything, then it printed Ok.
That said, I have not used ocular for printing recently. It has been evince, Foxit, or even acrobat.
Never heard of evince nor Foxit but acrobat I've used before.
I'll look up evince and Foxit.
Evince comes in the distro with XFCE.
Don't use XFCE. Hate rats.
Tsk :-P
Foxit is external, proprietary (freemium), and is currently one of the best alternatives to acrobat we can get in Linux.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxit_Software> --> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxit_Reader> --> <https://www.foxitsoftware.com/downloads/>
Sorry, can't see a copy forLinux/Leap and I don't the time to try and work out a way to adapt Foxit for Leap :-).
How come? Search "Foxit Reader", click "free download", pops a window that has an entry for "platform" that already says "Linux (64 bit)". Hit download. Can't be easier. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
* Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> [02-06-20 01:43]:
What is the trick to be able to successfully print a PDF file from (a) Ocular and (b) from Libreoffice?
The question really relates to the the selection of page numbers when printing a range of pages. For example, I opened a PDF file in ocular and selected a range of pages to print --eg, 53 to 85 but the printing started from page 42 (I watched as the pages were being printed so stopped the job before too many pages [and ink] were wasted.
The same happened (but with a different PDF file) when the file was opened in Libreoffice. At the bottom of the displayed page it shows the correct page number as the start page for the pp range I want to print but the printing begins from a different page (similar to the experience with Ocular). I also notice that with Libreoffice the left hand column displays a 'slideshow' page number but using these page numbers produced even mare wasted paper.
The question therefore is: is there a "trick" in selecting the correct starting/ending pages to be printed when a PDF file is opened in either Ocular or LibreOffice?
All help most appreciated.
pdf's frequently begin with a few pages enumerated with Roman Numerals and then more pages beginning with Arabic Numerials. The printing begins with the first page as Arabic Numeral "1" which may actually be Roman Numeral "I", so you must account for those "extra" pages at the beginning of the document. clear as mudddd... -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 08:04:16 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> [02-06-20 01:43]:
What is the trick to be able to successfully print a PDF file from (a) Ocular and (b) from Libreoffice?
The question really relates to the the selection of page numbers when printing a range of pages. For example, I opened a PDF file in ocular and selected a range of pages to print --eg, 53 to 85 but the printing started from page 42 (I watched as the pages were being printed so stopped the job before too many pages [and ink] were wasted.
The same happened (but with a different PDF file) when the file was opened in Libreoffice. At the bottom of the displayed page it shows the correct page number as the start page for the pp range I want to print but the printing begins from a different page (similar to the experience with Ocular). I also notice that with Libreoffice the left hand column displays a 'slideshow' page number but using these page numbers produced even mare wasted paper.
The question therefore is: is there a "trick" in selecting the correct starting/ending pages to be printed when a PDF file is opened in either Ocular or LibreOffice?
All help most appreciated.
pdf's frequently begin with a few pages enumerated with Roman Numerals and then more pages beginning with Arabic Numerials. The printing begins with the first page as Arabic Numeral "1" which may actually be Roman Numeral "I", so you must account for those "extra" pages at the beginning of the document.
clear as mudddd...
The "front matter" (Title, TOC, preface/foreword etc.) is frequently numbered by Roman numerals in books, and the main contens by Arabic numerals. Adobe Reader (acroread) can be set to use continuous numbering from 1, or use different numbering for the front matter and the main text (Edit => Preferences => Page display => Page Content and Information => Use logical page numbers). Furthermore acroread's print window shows preview of the pages selected for printing, and can be used for setting scaling, rotation, printing multiple pages per paper sheet or booklet printing. This is the reason I insist on using acroread (and obsolete openSUSE versions where acroread works). As far as I know there is no other PDF viewer for linux that is so powerful when it comes to printing. Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 06/02/2020 à 14:49, Istvan Gabor a écrit :
As far as I know there is no other PDF viewer for linux that is so powerful when it comes to printing.
and for form management. I failed as well to run acrobat fir windows in wine. shame to have to maintain a windows box only for that! jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 6. Februar 2020, 15:06:51 CET schrieb jdd@dodin.org:
Le 06/02/2020 à 14:49, Istvan Gabor a écrit :
As far as I know there is no other PDF viewer for linux that is so powerful when it comes to printing.
and for form management. I failed as well to run acrobat fir windows in wine.
shame to have to maintain a windows box only for that!
I had some good experiences with PDF Forms lately using poppler/okular on Tumbleweed. And for some hard case, there's always the pdf ultra weapon: LibreOffice Draw. :-) Cheers, Pete -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 06/02/2020 à 16:24, Hans-Peter Jansen a écrit :
Tumbleweed. And for some hard case, there's always the pdf ultra weapon: LibreOffice Draw. :-)
not for dynamic forms :-( but I guess Adobe don't make any effort to help opensource users, all the contrary, so this may be unsolvable. best way could be to use wine (still VM, but simpler... and this one is maintained). Nobody tested recent playonlinux? I have to add I use okular as often as I can. right now it's only when I sell a car that I have to use that sort of forms... jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 06/02/2020 16.24, Hans-Peter Jansen wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 6. Februar 2020, 15:06:51 CET schrieb jdd@dodin.org:
Le 06/02/2020 à 14:49, Istvan Gabor a écrit :
As far as I know there is no other PDF viewer for linux that is so powerful when it comes to printing.
and for form management. I failed as well to run acrobat fir windows in wine.
shame to have to maintain a windows box only for that!
I had some good experiences with PDF Forms lately using poppler/okular on Tumbleweed. And for some hard case, there's always the pdf ultra weapon: LibreOffice Draw. :-)
Not when the form uses javascript. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 7/2/20 12:04 am, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
What is the trick to be able to successfully print a PDF file from (a) Ocular and (b) from Libreoffice?
The question really relates to the the selection of page numbers when printing a range of pages. For example, I opened a PDF file in ocular and selected a range of� pages to print --eg, 53 to 85 but the printing started from page 42 (I watched as the pages were being printed so stopped the job before too many pages [and ink] were wasted.
The same happened (but with a different PDF file) when the file was opened in Libreoffice. At the bottom of the displayed page it shows the correct page number as the start page for the pp range I want to print but the printing begins from a different page (similar to the experience with Ocular). I also notice that with Libreoffice the left hand column displays a 'slideshow' page number but using these page numbers produced even mare wasted paper.
The question therefore is: is there a "trick" in selecting the correct starting/ending pages to be printed when a PDF file is opened in either Ocular or LibreOffice?
All help most appreciated.
* Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> [02-06-20 01:43]: pdf's frequently begin with a few pages enumerated with Roman Numerals and then more pages beginning with Arabic Numerials. The printing begins with the first page as Arabic Numeral "1" which may actually be Roman Numeral "I", so you must account for those "extra" pages at the beginning of the document.
clear as mudddd...
Yep. But your English was faultless :-). BC -- All things are possible, except skiing through a revolving door. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/02/2020 07.26, Basil Chupin wrote: | On 7/2/20 12:04 am, Patrick Shanahan wrote: |> * Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> [02-06-20 01:43]: |>> What is the trick to be able to successfully print a PDF file |>> from (a) Ocular and (b) from Libreoffice? |>> |>> The question really relates to the the selection of page |>> numbers when printing a range of pages. For example, I opened a |>> PDF file in ocular and selected a range of� pages to print |>> --eg, 53 to 85 but the printing started from page 42 (I watched |>> as the pages were being printed so stopped the job before too |>> many pages [and ink] were wasted. |>> |>> The same happened (but with a different PDF file) when the file |>> was opened in Libreoffice. At the bottom of the displayed page |>> it shows the correct page number as the start page for the pp |>> range I want to print but the printing begins from a different |>> page (similar to the experience with Ocular). I also notice |>> that with Libreoffice the left hand column displays a |>> 'slideshow' page number but using these page numbers produced |>> even mare wasted paper. |>> |>> The question therefore is: is there a "trick" in selecting the |>> correct starting/ending pages to be printed when a PDF file is |>> opened in either Ocular or LibreOffice? |>> |>> All help most appreciated. |> pdf's frequently begin with a few pages enumerated with Roman |> Numerals and then more pages beginning with Arabic Numerials. |> The printing begins with the first page as Arabic Numeral "1" |> which may actually be Roman Numeral "I", so you must account for |> those "extra" pages at the beginning of the document. |> |> clear as mudddd... | | | Yep. | | But your English was faultless :-). It is clear as water to me :-D Because I have encountered that precise problem, and is what I meant when I said «But in PDF the printed page number may not be the actual page count, so you have to be careful.» - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXj0dRgAKCRC1MxgcbY1H 1axIAKCRtzbVI2SUBYiJVHGLtbmk1j0uDQCfSCJFOKV79LjJtqCr9RqItVt4+6o= =x907 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/06/2020 12:40 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
The question therefore is: is there a "trick" in selecting the correct starting/ending pages to be printed when a PDF file is opened in either Ocular or LibreOffice?
All help most appreciated.
Basil, The print dialog I use in KDE3 shows a thumbnail of the starting page when I select a range to print in the print-dialog (should be the same in plasma). I always just do a quick check between the thumbnail and the page I know I need to start printing from. As Patrick indicated, there are a number of reasons the actual "Page Count" will be different from the "Page Number" in a pdf. The thumbnail comparison the the best way I've found so far. (I mainly print pdfs from kpdf) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 7/2/20 11:38 am, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 02/06/2020 12:40 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
The question therefore is: is there a "trick" in selecting the correct starting/ending pages to be printed when a PDF file is opened in either Ocular or LibreOffice?
All help most appreciated.
Basil,
The print dialog I use in KDE3 shows a thumbnail of the starting page when I select a range to print in the print-dialog (should be the same in plasma). I always just do a quick check between the thumbnail and the page I know I need to start printing from. As Patrick indicated, there are a number of reasons the actual "Page Count" will be different from the "Page Number" in a pdf. The thumbnail comparison the the best way I've found so far. (I mainly print pdfs from kpdf)
Thanks David. I'll now look at your additional info and what Patrick wrote to see if I can what the how the 'thumbnail' may help. BTW, kpdf has been discontinued (according to Wikipedia) so hold on to the copy you are now using. BC PS But you know, in the year of our lord, 2020, there is no easy way to correctly print out a range of pages from a pdf file in either Okular or LibreOffice. Strange isn't it? -- All things are possible, except skiing through a revolving door. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/02/2020 07.45, Basil Chupin wrote: | PS But you know, in the year of our lord, 2020, there is no easy | way to correctly print out a range of pages from a pdf file in | either Okular or LibreOffice. Strange isn't it? Why do you want to print PDFs from LO? It is not intended for that job. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXj0dqgAKCRC1MxgcbY1H 1UHNAJ45tCvU3B7pGrnB4nr/fV/IluYRXgCgglfoeYOvnDSJOQlsbZpTiQ2or5k= =V5XM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 7/2/20 7:19 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 07/02/2020 07.45, Basil Chupin wrote:
| PS But you know, in the year of our lord, 2020, there is no easy | way to correctly print out a range of pages from a pdf file in | either Okular or LibreOffice. Strange isn't it?
Why do you want to print PDFs from LO? It is not intended for that job.
So give me the precise URL where I can download Foxit (rpm or whatever) for Leap 15.1? BC -- All things are possible, except skiing through a revolving door. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 08/02/2020 06.00, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 7/2/20 7:19 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 07/02/2020 07.45, Basil Chupin wrote:
| PS But you know, in the year of our lord, 2020, there is no easy | way to correctly print out a range of pages from a pdf file in | either Okular or LibreOffice. Strange isn't it?
Why do you want to print PDFs from LO? It is not intended for that job.
So give me the precise URL where I can download Foxit (rpm or whatever) for Leap 15.1?
I told you. <https://www.foxitsoftware.com/downloads/> Tell FF to search in the page for "Foxit reader", then hit free download. I can not give the URL of the button or the popup because it doesn't have one. Maybe: <http://cdn01.foxitsoftware.com/pub/foxit/reader/desktop/linux/2.x/2.4/en_us/FoxitReader.enu.setup.2.4.4.0911.x64.run.tar.gz> but I don't know if it will work. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 8/2/20 10:22 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 08/02/2020 06.00, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 7/2/20 7:19 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 07/02/2020 07.45, Basil Chupin wrote:
| PS But you know, in the year of our lord, 2020, there is no easy | way to correctly print out a range of pages from a pdf file in | either Okular or LibreOffice. Strange isn't it?
Why do you want to print PDFs from LO? It is not intended for that job.
So give me the precise URL where I can download Foxit (rpm or whatever) for Leap 15.1?
I told you.
<https://www.foxitsoftware.com/downloads/>
Tell FF to search in the page for "Foxit reader", then hit free download.
I can not give the URL of the button or the popup because it doesn't have one.
Maybe:
but I don't know if it will work.
OK, downloaded FoxiReader and installed it. Problem is that when one tries to find, from the menu screen, the pdf file you want in the directory it is in the whole thing freezes and won't respond :-). Any clues about this minor hassle? :-). BC -- All things are possible, except skiing through a revolving door. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 09/02/2020 09.55, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 8/2/20 10:22 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:
<https://www.foxitsoftware.com/downloads/>
Tell FF to search in the page for "Foxit reader", then hit free download.
I can not give the URL of the button or the popup because it doesn't have one.
Maybe:
but I don't know if it will work.
OK, downloaded FoxiReader and installed it. Problem is that when one tries to find, from the menu screen, the pdf file you want in the directory it is in the whole thing freezes and won't respond :-). Any clues about this minor hassle? :-).
Doesn't happen here. I'm using version 2.4.4.0911 - yep, the same as the tar above. They don't seem to update often. Normally I fire it up directly from 'mc' with the file name to open appended. But most times I use evince. Maybe if the directory has many pdf? ... No, the open dialog opens fast here, no cpu load. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar)
On 9/2/20 10:23 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 09/02/2020 09.55, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 8/2/20 10:22 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:
<https://www.foxitsoftware.com/downloads/>
Tell FF to search in the page for "Foxit reader", then hit free download.
I can not give the URL of the button or the popup because it doesn't have one.
Maybe:
but I don't know if it will work.
OK, downloaded FoxiReader and installed it. Problem is that when one tries to find, from the menu screen, the pdf file you want in the directory it is in the whole thing freezes and won't respond :-). Any clues about this minor hassle? :-).
Doesn't happen here. I'm using version 2.4.4.0911 - yep, the same as the tar above. They don't seem to update often.
Normally I fire it up directly from 'mc' with the file name to open appended. But most times I use evince.
Maybe if the directory has many pdf? ... No, the open dialog opens fast here, no cpu load.
Well, I have worked out the peculiarity(ies) of FoxitReader -- and it appears tobe no different to what one experiences in Ocular: you have to ADD to the page number which you want to print the Covering (blank) page and then any pages numbered in the Latin numerology. So in the case of my Huawei User Manual I had to add 4 (blank page + i + ii + iii = 4 to be able to start printing a range of pages, or even a single page. However,there is also the ability to see exactly which page U want to print. On the extreme left side there is a column where the second icon represents pages. Click on that and all the pages of the pdf document are shown from top to bottom with the exact page number shown at the bottom of each page. I suspect the same arrangement is in Ocular so I will go looking there at some time soon. OH! Almost forgot! When you start FoxitReader you see a big '+'. This seems to indicate that clicking on this '+' you will open a new file or at least open A file. Clicking on this '+' is where Foxit hangs. To open a file use the File option (upper top). BC -- All things are possible, except skiing through a revolving door. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 10/02/2020 05.06, Basil Chupin wrote: | On 9/2/20 10:23 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote: |> On 09/02/2020 09.55, Basil Chupin wrote: |>> On 8/2/20 10:22 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote: | | | Well, I have worked out the peculiarity(ies) of FoxitReader -- and | it appears tobe no different to what one experiences in Ocular: | you have to ADD to the page number which you want to print the | Covering (blank) page and then any pages numbered in the Latin | numerology. So in the case of my Huawei User Manual I had to add 4 | (blank page + i + ii + iii = 4 to be able to start printing a range | of pages, or even a single page. | | However,there is also the ability to see exactly which page U want | to print. On the extreme left side there is a column where the | second icon represents pages. Click on that and all the pages of | the pdf document are shown from top to bottom with the exact page | number shown at the bottom of each page. | | I suspect the same arrangement is in Ocular so I will go looking | there at some time soon. In evince, in the print dialog there is a preview button which shows what exactly is going to be printed. | OH! Almost forgot! When you start FoxitReader you see a big '+'. | This seems to indicate that clicking on this '+' you will open a | new file or at least open A file. Clicking on this '+' is where | Foxit hangs. To open a file use the File option (upper top). I just tried here, no issues. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.1 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXkEfOAAKCRC1MxgcbY1H 1Y0ZAJ976Vqh3PkqzQcB0MBmu3gpJg4mTQCbBRBCjWZc42IXTBp/NZ9omGOaYig= =Opl6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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Patrick Shanahan