[opensuse] DSL/pppoe network connection in leap 42.2
Hello: I have a DSL modem (not router) I need to use to connect to the internet. For connection I need a username/password pair which is set up in the system. This scenario worked in openSUSE versions up to 13.1. openSUSE 13.2 lacks pppoe/DSL setup in YAST. When openSUSE 13.2 came out I thought it was only a temporary thing, and it would be fixed. Now, before installing openSUSE leap 42.2 I checked it, and found this: Thread: No DSL connection in LEAP 42.2 https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/521147-No-DSL-connection-in-LEAP-... Is this information correct? And if yes is it serious, that after 2 more releases this hasn't still been fixed? I don't want to use network manager because I find it too complex, and I don't want users to be able to modify network settings. What I want is to setup network connection system-wide (same setup for all users) and that - users cannot modify network settings - users can connect to / disconnect from network by clicking an icon in the system tray or panel - users can choose from predefined connection setups This worked perfectly up to openSUSE 13.1 (smpppd and kinternet/ qinternet packages). Is this feasible in openSUSE leap 42.2? Thanks, Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 2017-01-03 21:07, Istvan Gabor wrote:
Hello:
I have a DSL modem (not router) I need to use to connect to the internet. For connection I need a username/password pair which is set up in the system. This scenario worked in openSUSE versions up to 13.1. openSUSE 13.2 lacks pppoe/DSL setup in YAST. When openSUSE 13.2 came out I thought it was only a temporary thing, and it would be fixed.
I run this setup with openSuSE 13.2/wicked, needed "manual" configuration of ppp. enough howtos out there.
Now, before installing openSUSE leap 42.2 I checked it, and found this:
Thread: No DSL connection in LEAP 42.2
https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/521147-No-DSL-connection-in-LEAP-...
This thread mentions above method to work
Is this information correct? And if yes is it serious, that after 2 more releases this hasn't still been fixed?
I don't want to use network manager because I find it too complex, and I don't want users to be able to modify network settings.
What I want is to setup network connection system-wide (same setup for all users) and that - users cannot modify network settings - users can connect to / disconnect from network by clicking an icon in the system tray or panel - users can choose from predefined connection setups
should also work with wicked and some sudo commands
This worked perfectly up to openSUSE 13.1 (smpppd and kinternet/ qinternet packages).
Is this feasible in openSUSE leap 42.2?
Thanks,
Istvan
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On 2017-01-03 21:07, Istvan Gabor wrote:
I don't want to use network manager because I find it too complex, and I don't want users to be able to modify network settings.
If you tell network manager that this connection is to be available to all users, then only root can modify it from that point. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
* Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> [01-03-17 21:03]:
On 2017-01-03 21:07, Istvan Gabor wrote:
I don't want to use network manager because I find it too complex, and I don't want users to be able to modify network settings.
If you tell network manager that this connection is to be available to all users, then only root can modify it from that point.
yast lan tell it to use if{up,down,status} -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Istvan Gabor wrote:
Hello:
I have a DSL modem (not router) I need to use to connect to the internet. For connection I need a username/password pair which is set up in the system. This scenario worked in openSUSE versions up to 13.1. openSUSE 13.2 lacks pppoe/DSL setup in YAST. When openSUSE 13.2 came out I thought it was only a temporary thing, and it would be fixed.
ISTR pppoe being deprecated in YaST, probably due to lack of interest and/or maintainer. I also used pppoe with an ADSL modem, but it's more than ten years ago. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (0.8°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
04.01.2017 10:27, Per Jessen пишет:
Istvan Gabor wrote:
Hello:
I have a DSL modem (not router) I need to use to connect to the internet. For connection I need a username/password pair which is set up in the system. This scenario worked in openSUSE versions up to 13.1. openSUSE 13.2 lacks pppoe/DSL setup in YAST. When openSUSE 13.2 came out I thought it was only a temporary thing, and it would be fixed.
ISTR pppoe being deprecated in YaST, probably due to lack of interest and/or maintainer. I also used pppoe with an ADSL modem, but it's more than ten years ago.
Initially wicked did not support PPPoE which probably was enough reason to drop YaST support - changelog is rather silent on *why* it was removed. PPPoE was added to wicked in Leap 42.2, so someone who cares should open bug report or feature request (not that I hold my breath though). Unfortunately, old code is in YaST specific language, so it is not possible to simply resurrect it now, when the rest was rewritten in ruby. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2017-01-04 08:41, Andrei Borzenkov wrote:
though). Unfortunately, old code is in YaST specific language, so it is not possible to simply resurrect it now, when the rest was rewritten in ruby.
But there is an automated translator, is there not? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
Per Jessen wrote:
Istvan Gabor wrote:
Hello:
I have a DSL modem (not router) I need to use to connect to the internet. For connection I need a username/password pair which is set up in the system. This scenario worked in openSUSE versions up to 13.1. openSUSE 13.2 lacks pppoe/DSL setup in YAST. When openSUSE 13.2 came out I thought it was only a temporary thing, and it would be fixed.
ISTR pppoe being deprecated in YaST, probably due to lack of interest and/or maintainer. I also used pppoe with an ADSL modem, but it's more than ten years ago.
I think I still have one or two of those ADSL modems (PCI plugin card), they're available at shipping-cost. I also have a stack of ISDN modems (PCI), available at shipping-cost. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (0.8°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 2017-01-04 09:39, Per Jessen wrote:
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2017 09:39:02 From: Per Jessen <per@computer.org> To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] DSL/pppoe network connection in leap 42.2
Per Jessen wrote:
Istvan Gabor wrote:
Hello:
I have a DSL modem (not router) I need to use to connect to the internet. For connection I need a username/password pair which is set up in the system. This scenario worked in openSUSE versions up to 13.1. openSUSE 13.2 lacks pppoe/DSL setup in YAST. When openSUSE 13.2 came out I thought it was only a temporary thing, and it would be fixed.
ISTR pppoe being deprecated in YaST, probably due to lack of interest and/or maintainer. I also used pppoe with an ADSL modem, but it's more than ten years ago.
I think I still have one or two of those ADSL modems (PCI plugin card), they're available at shipping-cost. I also have a stack of ISDN modems (PCI), available at shipping-cost.
I am wondering why there should be a "lack of interest" in some countries, e.g. Germany, pppoe is the mainly used connection method, for ADSL2+, VDSL2, and even most cable/DOCSIS providers. Until a year ago I also had (active) ISDN cards working, but since nearly all providers here shut down ISDN, I do not have this backup anymore (used for backup dial up, and also console dial in, in case internet connection breaks down). And there's no adequate alternative - since cell phone providers also shut down CSD. Hope internet connection will never break down :( -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Paul Neuwirth wrote:
On Wednesday 2017-01-04 09:39, Per Jessen wrote:
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2017 09:39:02 From: Per Jessen <per@computer.org> To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] DSL/pppoe network connection in leap 42.2
Per Jessen wrote:
Istvan Gabor wrote:
Hello:
I have a DSL modem (not router) I need to use to connect to the internet. For connection I need a username/password pair which is set up in the system. This scenario worked in openSUSE versions up to 13.1. openSUSE 13.2 lacks pppoe/DSL setup in YAST. When openSUSE 13.2 came out I thought it was only a temporary thing, and it would be fixed.
ISTR pppoe being deprecated in YaST, probably due to lack of interest and/or maintainer. I also used pppoe with an ADSL modem, but it's more than ten years ago.
I think I still have one or two of those ADSL modems (PCI plugin card), they're available at shipping-cost. I also have a stack of ISDN modems (PCI), available at shipping-cost.
I am wondering why there should be a "lack of interest" in some countries, e.g. Germany, pppoe is the mainly used connection method, for ADSL2+, VDSL2, and even most cable/DOCSIS providers.
Yes, same here in Switzerland, but it's taken care of by the modem/router, not directly on the PC or server. Having an xDSL plugin card and running pppoe on Linux is surely the exception.
Until a year ago I also had (active) ISDN cards working, but since nearly all providers here shut down ISDN, I do not have this backup anymore (used for backup dial up, and also console dial in, in case internet connection breaks down). And there's no adequate alternative - since cell phone providers also shut down CSD. Hope internet connection will never break down :(
or be dug up :-( -- Per Jessen, Zürich (1.1°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 2017-01-04 10:05, Per Jessen wrote:
Yes, same here in Switzerland, but it's taken care of by the modem/router, not directly on the PC or server. Having an xDSL plugin card and running pppoe on Linux is surely the exception.
sure, I use a external modem (brand vigor) connected to a dedicated network card and pppd. I would never rely on the "safety" of such a closed modem/router. there are enough examples of known exploits. I think this is the same setup, the OPs meant and was previously possible to set up in YaST -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Paul Neuwirth wrote:
On Wednesday 2017-01-04 10:05, Per Jessen wrote:
Yes, same here in Switzerland, but it's taken care of by the modem/router, not directly on the PC or server. Having an xDSL plugin card and running pppoe on Linux is surely the exception.
sure, I use a external modem (brand vigor) connected to a dedicated network card and pppd. I would never rely on the "safety" of such a closed modem/router. there are enough examples of known exploits. I think this is the same setup, the OPs meant and was previously possible to set up in YaST
Ah, I was not aware of that one - I thought we were talking about the pppoe level on ADSL. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (3.1°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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