Decided to open a file via the quick browser today, and noticed that there were lots(42) of the above text files. I have looked into a couple of them and they seem to be read receipts for mail that people have sent me where they have requested a read receipt ie Return Receipt for the mail that you sent to hylton@global.co.za. How come these are saved as plain text in my home directory? Sure I keep my local POP mail in my own mail reader for ever but still, it intrigues me. I would assume they can just be deleted. Permissions on them are all rw-r--r-- or 0644 and they are owned by me and the users group. File sizes are an average of around 3k. I'd be even more interested if a few people could all send me a message requesting a read receipt from me over the next few days to see if the number received increases for each one I receive. Below is a bit for bit paste of the mdnmsg file: Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 20:37:21 +0200 From: hylton@global.co.za Message-ID: <400C23E1.70003@global.co.za> Subject: Return Receipt (displayed) - Fw: from Hazel To: "Hazel Conacher" <hazelc@global.co.za> References: <003e01c3de94$af8d6070$647cef9b@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=disposition-notification; boundary="------------mdn020805010700070606070904" --------------mdn020805010700070606070904 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a Return Receipt for the mail that you sent to hylton@global.co.za. Note: This Return Receipt only acknowledges that the message was displayed on the recipient's computer. There is no guarantee that the recipient has read or understood the message contents. --------------mdn020805010700070606070904 -- The Little Helper ======================================================================== Hylton Conacher - Linux user # 229959 at http://counter.li.org Currently using SuSE 9.0 Professional with KDE 3.1 Licenced Windows user ========================================================================
On Saturday 15 January 2005 11:20 am, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
Decided to open a file via the quick browser today, and noticed that there were lots(42) of the above text files. I have looked into a couple of them and they seem to be read receipts for mail that people have sent me where they have requested a read receipt ie Return Receipt for the mail that you sent to hylton@global.co.za.
How come these are saved as plain text in my home directory? Sure I keep my local POP mail in my own mail reader for ever but still, it intrigues me.
I would assume they can just be deleted. Permissions on them are all rw-r--r-- or 0644 and they are owned by me and the users group. File sizes are an average of around 3k.
I'd be even more interested if a few people could all send me a message requesting a read receipt from me over the next few days to see if the number received increases for each one I receive.
Hylton
These are Message Disposition Notices. In Kmail you can customize how kmail deals with these. I turn it off completely so that nothing goes out automatically from my email. MDNs can tell the sender that you opened, deleted, whatever to their email. Spammers would love this to always tell them when an email was acted upon. Customers may not appreciate it... There is a setting in Kmail to ask what you want to do with it every time... could get old and boring fast but may be worth it for Customer relationship Management. Oh yeah, delete 'em. Stan
Stan Glasoe wrote:
These are Message Disposition Notices. In Kmail you can customize how kmail deals with these. I turn it off completely so that nothing goes out automatically from my email. MDNs can tell the sender that you opened, deleted, whatever to their email. Spammers would love this to always tell them when an email was acted upon. Customers may not appreciate it... There is a setting in Kmail to ask what you want to do with it every time... could get old and boring fast but may be worth it for Customer relationship Management.
Is there an option to nuke the source computer? Something in the range of 50 kilotons should suffice. ;-)
On Saturday 15 January 2005 4:27 pm, James Knott wrote:
Stan Glasoe wrote:
These are Message Disposition Notices. In Kmail you can customize how kmail deals with these. I turn it off completely so that nothing goes out automatically from my email. MDNs can tell the sender that you opened, deleted, whatever to their email. Spammers would love this to always tell them when an email was acted upon. Customers may not appreciate it... There is a setting in Kmail to ask what you want to do with it every time... could get old and boring fast but may be worth it for Customer relationship Management.
Is there an option to nuke the source computer? Something in the range of 50 kilotons should suffice. ;-)
Probably coming in KDE 4.x or SUSE Pro 10.x... not sure if it'll be proprietary or open source...
Stan Glasoe wrote:
On Saturday 15 January 2005 11:20 am, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
Decided to open a file via the quick browser today, and noticed that there were lots(42) of the above text files. I have looked into a couple of them and they seem to be read receipts for mail that people have sent me where they have requested a read receipt ie Return Receipt for the mail that you sent to hylton@global.co.za.
How come these are saved as plain text in my home directory? Sure I keep my local POP mail in my own mail reader for ever but still, it intrigues me.
I would assume they can just be deleted. Permissions on them are all rw-r--r-- or 0644 and they are owned by me and the users group. File sizes are an average of around 3k.
I'd be even more interested if a few people could all send me a message requesting a read receipt from me over the next few days to see if the number received increases for each one I receive.
Hylton
These are Message Disposition Notices. Tnx Stan. I knew MDN stood for something. :)
In Kmail you can customize how kmail deals with these. I turn it off completely so that nothing goes out automatically from my email. MDNs can tell the sender that you opened, deleted, whatever to their email. Fantastic being able to limit them. 'Unfortunate' though that I use Mozilla 1.4.
........ There is a setting in Kmail to ask what you want to do with it every time... could get old and boring fast.... Most of them are old, so I've deleted them and will check ~/ in a few days to see if any are back. If so Google for the solution.
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The Thursday 2005-01-20 at 18:49 +0200, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
Fantastic being able to limit them. 'Unfortunate' though that I use Mozilla 1.4.
You have some settings in "Preferences / Mail & newsgroups / Return Receipts": "When I receive... ". You can choose "never send" or "allow ... for some", and then "ask me". Thats what I have, "ask me". Then, I always know when I was sent a receipt request, and only if I want, I let it be sent. I suppose that every MUA that honors receipt requests offer some sort of control over them. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Thursday 2005-01-20 at 18:49 +0200, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
Fantastic being able to limit them. 'Unfortunate' though that I use Mozilla 1.4.
You have some settings in "Preferences / Mail & newsgroups / Return Receipts": "When I receive... ". You can choose "never send" or "allow ... for some", and then "ask me".
Thats what I have, "ask me". Then, I always know when I was sent a receipt request, and only if I want, I let it be sent.
I suppose that every MUA that honors receipt requests offer some sort of control over them. I also have mine set to 'Ask me'. They were set some other way before and that is why I think there were some old mdnmsg files ie before the 'Ask me' bit was set.
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Carlos E. R.
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Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC)
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James Knott
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Stan Glasoe