Lately I have I have had to disable IPv6 to be able to get decent connection to sites like http://en.opensuse.org and forums. Otherwise page load is extremly slow and connecting to login.attachmategroup.com simply times out. I would like to know if others using IPv6 on this list has seen this problem. I am not sure whether it a problem with my tunnel provider*, my system or the servers at OpenSUSE. * sixxs.net -- Thanks Klaus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/14/2015 05:35 PM, Klaus Vink Slott wrote:
Lately I have I have had to disable IPv6 to be able to get decent connection to sites like http://en.opensuse.org and forums. Otherwise page load is extremly slow and connecting to login.attachmategroup.com simply times out.
I would like to know if others using IPv6 on this list has seen this problem. I am not sure whether it a problem with my tunnel provider*, my system or the servers at OpenSUSE.
* sixxs.net
Works fine for me with IPv6. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Den 14-02-2015 kl. 23:56 skrev James Knott:
On 02/14/2015 05:35 PM, Klaus Vink Slott wrote:
I would like to know if others using IPv6 on this list has seen this problem. I am not sure whether it a problem with my tunnel provider*, my system or the servers at OpenSUSE.
Works fine for me with IPv6.
ok. I might try to report a routing issue to my provider. Although last time I did I was just told to fix my own tunnel. They never provided an explanation on why I was able to connect to other ipv6 based sites. But hey. What can you expect from a free service. klaus@wayback:~> host www.opensuse.org www.opensuse.org has address 130.57.66.6 www.opensuse.org has IPv6 address 2620:113:8044:66:130:57:66:6 klaus@wayback:~> /sbin/tracepath6 2620:113:8044:66:130:57:66:6 1?: [LOCALHOST] 0.122ms pmtu 1500 1: 2001:16d8:dd00:816f::1 0.617ms 1: 2001:16d8:dd00:816f::1 1.085ms 2: 2001:16d8:dd00:816f::1 0.566ms pmtu 1480 2: gw-368.cph-01.dk.sixxs.net 38.516ms 3: sixxs-cph-demarc0.cust.ip6.p80.net 37.233ms asymm 2 4: vl3229.dk.cph.sydv.cr0.port80.se 37.760ms asymm 3 5: 2001:16d8:1:136a::1 37.386ms asymm 4 6: br01.nycmny82.integratelecom.com 35.224ms asymm 7 7: 2607:f0d8:0:59::1 140.448ms asymm 8 8: 2607:f0d8:0:5a::1 162.650ms asymm 9 9: 2607:f0d8:0:1::f9 164.887ms asymm 10 10: 2607:f0d8:0:1::14a 202.149ms asymm 11 11: 2607:f0d8:0:d::2 202.985ms asymm 12 12: 2607:f0d8:0:1::f2 375.712ms asymm 13 13: ??? 212.881ms asymm 14 14: 2600:806:310::1 191.615ms asymm 12 15: ??? 198.753ms asymm 13 16: no reply no further reply reply after that -- Klaus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/15/2015 05:29 AM, Klaus Vink Slott wrote:
ok. I might try to report a routing issue to my provider. Although last time I did I was just told to fix my own tunnel. They never provided an explanation on why I was able to connect to other ipv6 based sites.
Which provider? ISP or tunnel broker? You can try traceroute for both IPv4 to the tunnel broker and also IPv6 for the actual IPv6 traffic. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/15/2015 07:36 AM, James Knott wrote:
On 02/15/2015 05:29 AM, Klaus Vink Slott wrote:
ok. I might try to report a routing issue to my provider. Although last time I did I was just told to fix my own tunnel. They never provided an explanation on why I was able to connect to other ipv6 based sites. Which provider? ISP or tunnel broker? You can try traceroute for both IPv4 to the tunnel broker and also IPv6 for the actual IPv6 traffic.
Sorry, just read the traceroute. It appears the problem is with the IPv6 route. However, the problem may lay outside the tunnel broker. I see several organizations on that traceroute. Here is the last bit of my traceroute, which mostly matches yours: 13 2607:f0d8:0:1::1cd (2607:f0d8:0:1::1cd) 64.712 ms 64.622 ms 64.275 ms 14 2607:f0d8:0:1::14a (2607:f0d8:0:1::14a) 117.178 ms 112.766 ms 112.725 ms 15 2607:f0d8:0:d::2 (2607:f0d8:0:d::2) 128.360 ms 128.627 ms 128.469 ms 16 2607:f0d8:0:1::f2 (2607:f0d8:0:1::f2) 118.702 ms 118.668 ms 118.628 ms 17 2607:f0da::12 (2607:f0da::12) 127.774 ms 127.734 ms 127.669 ms 18 2600:806:310::1 (2600:806:310::1) 105.278 ms 105.200 ms 105.193 ms 19 2620:113:8044:1::10 (2620:113:8044:1::10) 105.152 ms 105.116 ms 105.065 ms 20 2620:113:8044:66:130:57:66:6 (2620:113:8044:66:130:57:66:6) 105.118 ms 104.502 ms 104.346 ms You seem to get lost after your hop 13, which is my hop 18. Perhaps that's where the problem is. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/15/2015 07:42 AM, James Knott wrote:
You seem to get lost after your hop 13, which is my hop 18. Perhaps that's where the problem is.
One other point, the problem may be on the return path to you, rather than from you to the site. Either way, traceroute will fail. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Saturday, February 14, 2015 11:35:39 PM Klaus Vink Slott wrote:
I would like to know if others using IPv6 on this list has seen this problem. I am not sure whether it a problem with my tunnel provider*, my system or the servers at OpenSUSE.
* sixxs.net
Yes, I have problems. I have added 130.57.66.6 forums.opensuse.org 195.135.221.134 download.opensuse.org to "/etc/hosts". That seems to result in IPv4 connections to those hosts. Without that, attempts to use the forums time out with konqueror, though they work with firefox. It seems that firefox remembers that it last used IPv4, and keeps using that. Konqueror just times out and does not drop back to IPv4 (or it did when I last tried). IPv6 connections to the download site are fine. However, it's "mirrorbrain" always gives me bad mirrors if I connect with IPv6. It seems to not do geolocation for IPv6. I have not have problems with other opensuse sites (yet). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/15/2015 09:54 AM, Neil Rickert wrote:
On Saturday, February 14, 2015 11:35:39 PM Klaus Vink Slott wrote:
I would like to know if others using IPv6 on this list has seen this problem. I am not sure whether it a problem with my tunnel provider*, my system or the servers at OpenSUSE.
* sixxs.net Yes, I have problems.
I have added
130.57.66.6 forums.opensuse.org 195.135.221.134 download.opensuse.org
to "/etc/hosts". That seems to result in IPv4 connections to those hosts.
Without that, attempts to use the forums time out with konqueror, though they work with firefox. It seems that firefox remembers that it last used IPv4, and keeps using that. Konqueror just times out and does not drop back to IPv4 (or it did when I last tried).
IPv6 connections to the download site are fine. However, it's "mirrorbrain" always gives me bad mirrors if I connect with IPv6. It seems to not do geolocation for IPv6.
I have not have problems with other opensuse sites (yet).
Are you two using the same tunnel broker? I still have no problem with that site. I'm with freenet6. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sunday, February 15, 2015 09:59:16 AM James Knott wrote:
Are you two using the same tunnel broker? I still have no problem with that site. I'm with freenet6.
I doubt it. My IPv6 is from my ISP (AT&T), though it does use a 6rd tunnel to the router that they provide. I just use the router and get an IPv6 address without having to do anything special.
Try a traceroute6 to the site and post the results.
traceroute6 '2600:806:310::100' traceroute to 2600:806:310::100 (2600:806:310::100), 30 hops max, 80 byte packets 1 2602:306:3afd:56b0::1 (2602:306:3afd:56b0::1) 8.024 ms * * 2 * * * 3 * * * ... 30 * * * That's the IPv6 address for "forums.opensuse.org". It seems that I cannot use the name with that "/etc/hosts" entry -- traceroute6 just gives a weird error. With "download.opensuse.org", if I directly ask for mirrors, it says that I am in an unknown country and it suggests mirrors in places such as Bangladesh. This isn't a big problem for iso downloads. I use "aria2c" and it quickly finds better mirrors. But normal online updates from the mirrors tend to be slow. If I force an IPv4 address with that hosts entry, I get decent mirrors and often use IPv6 to connect to the mirrors. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/15/2015 10:57 AM, Neil Rickert wrote:
80 byte packets 1 2602:306:3afd:56b0::1 (2602:306:3afd:56b0::1) 8.024 ms * * 2 * * * 3 * * * ... 30 * * *
No responses at all? I just tried traceroute6 to forums.opensuse.org and got this: 1 2001:5c0:1000:b::6c (2001:5c0:1000:b::6c) 37.457 ms 39.142 ms 39.107 ms 2 ix-5-0-1.6bb1.MTT-Montreal.ipv6.as6453.net (2001:5a0:300::5) 40.232 ms 40.304 ms 40.259 ms 3 if-ge-11-3-0.0.tcore2.MTT-Montreal.ipv6.as6453.net (2001:5a0:1900:100::d) 40.117 ms 40.078 ms 40.038 ms 4 if-ae5.2.tcore2.NYY-New-York.ipv6.as6453.net (2001:5a0:400:700::5) 46.781 ms 46.722 ms 46.694 ms 5 if-ae11.2.tcore1.NYY-New-York.ipv6.as6453.net (2001:5a0:400:700::2) 46.695 ms 46.630 ms 54.496 ms 6 if-ae5.5.tcore1.NTO-New-York.ipv6.as6453.net (2001:5a0:400:200::e) 55.162 ms 46.050 ms 47.163 ms 7 2001:5a0:a00:200::46 (2001:5a0:a00:200::46) 56.307 ms 56.247 ms 2600:802:2::19 (2600:802:2::19) 56.217 ms 8 2600:806:31f::6 (2600:806:31f::6) 105.190 ms 106.329 ms 106.065 ms 9 2600:806:31f::6 (2600:806:31f::6) 106.268 ms 105.981 ms 105.972 ms 10 2600:806:310::1 (2600:806:310::1) 106.087 ms 106.235 ms 106.198 ms 11 2600:806:310::1 (2600:806:310::1) 3296.136 ms !H * * I don't even see the address you get. What happens with a traceroute6 to opensuse.org? Also, it appears my last address is the same as the one where Klaus gets lost. Also, I can ping downloads.opensuse.org and www.opensuse.org, but not forums.opensuse.org. What happens if you traceroute6 to www.opensuse.org? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sunday, February 15, 2015 11:15:13 AM James Knott wrote:
I don't even see the address you get.
I got that address with: host forums.opensuse.org My ISP might be blocking traceroute6.
What happens with a traceroute6 to opensuse.org?
traceroute6 opensuse.org opensuse.org: Name or service not known Cannot handle "host" cmdline arg `opensuse.org' on position 1 (argc 1)
What happens if you traceroute6 to www.opensuse.org?
traceroute6 www.opensuse.org traceroute to www.opensuse.org (2620:113:8044:66:130:57:66:6), 30 hops max, 80 byte packets 1 2602:306:3afd:56b0::1 (2602:306:3afd:56b0::1) 8.360 ms * * 2 * * * 3 * * * 4 * * * 5 * * * 6 * * * 7 * * * 8 * * * 9 2620:113:8044:66:130:57:66:6 (2620:113:8044:66:130:57:66:6) 105.687 ms 110.277 ms * -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/15/2015 09:54 AM, Neil Rickert wrote:
IPv6 connections to the download site are fine. However, it's "mirrorbrain" always gives me bad mirrors if I connect with IPv6. It seems to not do geolocation for IPv6.
I have not have problems with other opensuse sites (yet).
Try a traceroute6 to the site and post the results. I bet you're failing at the same point as Klaus. Given that I have no problem with the site, it's likely the next router beyond the last one you get a response from doesn't have a route back to you. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Op zaterdag 14 februari 2015 23:35:39 schreef Klaus Vink Slott:
Lately I have I have had to disable IPv6 to be able to get decent connection to sites like http://en.opensuse.org and forums. Otherwise page load is extremly slow and connecting to login.attachmategroup.com simply times out.
I would like to know if others using IPv6 on this list has seen this problem. I am not sure whether it a problem with my tunnel provider*, my system or the servers at OpenSUSE.
* sixxs.net
I can confirm that it often takes a lot of time to log in in any of these openSUSE websites that need authentication via attachmate. I have a native IPv6 connection, so the default is to connect via IPv6. After canceling the authentication and trying again it often works immediately. I did not investigate via with type of connection the attachmate site is (trying to become) connected. -- fr.gr. member openSUSE Freek de Kruijf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Freek de Kruijf wrote:
Op zaterdag 14 februari 2015 23:35:39 schreef Klaus Vink Slott:
Lately I have I have had to disable IPv6 to be able to get decent connection to sites like http://en.opensuse.org and forums. Otherwise page load is extremly slow and connecting to login.attachmategroup.com simply times out.
I would like to know if others using IPv6 on this list has seen this problem. I am not sure whether it a problem with my tunnel provider*, my system or the servers at OpenSUSE.
* sixxs.net
I can confirm that it often takes a lot of time to log in in any of these openSUSE websites that need authentication via attachmate. I have a native IPv6 connection, so the default is to connect via IPv6.
FYI, I also have native IPv6, but I don't see any problems in logging in and accessing https://bugzilla.opensuse.org. http://en.opensuse.org is the same IP address, but http://forums.opensuse.org is hosted elsewhere. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (3.2°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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