So, anyone tried putting 10.3 on an Asus eee yet? Does it work without much hacking? I'm thinking of going with a KDE4 only install :-) John. -- Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 John Layt wrote:
So, anyone tried putting 10.3 on an Asus eee yet? Does it work without much hacking? I'm thinking of going with a KDE4 only install :-)
John.
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You are talking about the 512Mb and 2G/4G/(8G in US/Asia only :-() flash drive sub micro notebook are you not? Considering that the machine comes with Xandros preinstalled and has a rather special hardware setup; which I would assume that this copy of Xandros is optimised for, and ASUS are committed to to support; I would wonder why anyone would want to this, except out of a sense of adventure. I suspect that installing openSuSE might not be exactly wise or easy (for a start one would probably have to build and debug a special version of the Kernel). Installing KDE4 in its current reported status would be seriously adventurous on this hardware... (though there is a good argument for a special handheld and sub-micro version of SuSE). I would intrigued to hear the results of this experiment if anyone has attempted it... - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHOsWrasN0sSnLmgIRAhgkAKDNIaNasnjBurzLzbRVCMcghXlUDwCgl0W4 SJeJYnVfScR7+bEUOrH2ZR8= =2n0R -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 14 Nov 2007, G T Smith wrote:
You are talking about the 512Mb and 2G/4G/(8G in US/Asia only :-() flash drive sub micro notebook are you not?
Considering that the machine comes with Xandros preinstalled and has a rather special hardware setup; which I would assume that this copy of Xandros is optimised for, and ASUS are committed to to support; I would wonder why anyone would want to this, except out of a sense of adventure.
I suspect that installing openSuSE might not be exactly wise or easy (for a start one would probably have to build and debug a special version of the Kernel). Installing KDE4 in its current reported status would be seriously adventurous on this hardware... (though there is a good argument for a special handheld and sub-micro version of SuSE).
I would intrigued to hear the results of this experiment if anyone has attempted it...
I have one, but not (yet) attempted to install OpenSUSE on it. There are people who've successfully installed Ubuntu - reportedly the only major gripes are with the Wireless driver and some power management issues. The wifi chip used is a new Atheros variant that is only supported with the custom Xandros on the Eee. It works with other distros using ndiswrapper, though. The default package is nicely integrated, and everything works. Though some of the software is a bit dated - OpenOffice 2.0.4, and a KDE 3.4.2 base. It picked up my CUPS shared printer, and I can SSH into my main box. The media player (SMPlayer) seems to play most things I've thrown at it. It boots in about 30 seconds. It's pretty neat and very usable, despite the small storage capacity and 800x480 screen. Jason -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 14 November 2007, G T Smith wrote:
Considering that the machine comes with Xandros preinstalled and has a rather special hardware setup; which I would assume that this copy of Xandros is optimised for, and ASUS are committed to to support; I would wonder why anyone would want to this, except out of a sense of adventure.
I suspect that installing openSuSE might not be exactly wise or easy (for a start one would probably have to build and debug a special version of the Kernel). Installing KDE4 in its current reported status would be seriously adventurous on this hardware... (though there is a good argument for a special handheld and sub-micro version of SuSE).
I would intrigued to hear the results of this experiment if anyone has attempted it...
Well, the simplified Xandros will get a run for a week or so, but part of my excuse for buying is I hack on KDE4 (nothing major, but it fills the time) so I'm eager to see how well we cope with the form factor, especially as Plasma was designed with this sort of thing in mind. KDE3 applications are a major part of the eee, and I know they've had to hack some of the dialogs to fit the screen size, so I'd like to see what we can do in KDE4 to make things easier. So Xandros isn't a long term option for that, and I've heard the Kubuntu KDE4 packages may not be as good as the openSuse ones, so the green one will get a run, even if only a dual boot from flash. I don't think I'll try compiling KDE4 on it :-) But yeah, it's the wireless and camera that seem the biggest issue, but NDISwrapper apparently works and I can cope without a camera if needs be. John. -- Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 18:31 +0000, John Layt wrote:
Well, the simplified Xandros will get a run for a week or so <snip> But yeah, it's the wireless and camera that seem the biggest issue, but NDISwrapper apparently works and I can cope without a camera if needs be.
It's late and I'm probably confused but if there's a driver for one Linux version doesn't it work for all? GPL and all that. Or at least ABI compatibility. Curiously, Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 18:31 +0000, John Layt wrote:
Well, the simplified Xandros will get a run for a week or so <snip> But yeah, it's the wireless and camera that seem the biggest issue, but NDISwrapper apparently works and I can cope without a camera if needs be.
It's late and I'm probably confused but if there's a driver for one Linux version doesn't it work for all? GPL and all that. Or at least ABI compatibility.
Curiously, Dave
I would suspect the modules concerned to be closed source and compiled against particular versions of the libraries with particular versions of compiler. And we have all come across the situation of library or compiler mismatch that means that something will not work even it it is using the same API. - -- ============================================================================== I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup ============================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHPAoRasN0sSnLmgIRAqr/AKCrwf5hhzCsazpp4RS9N27LOvCTRwCgxaGD 9Zgv7iwi8EoqciLezhGY6h8= =2ib2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 15 November 2007, G T Smith wrote:
Dave Howorth wrote:
It's late and I'm probably confused but if there's a driver for one Linux version doesn't it work for all? GPL and all that. Or at least ABI compatibility.
Curiously, Dave
I would suspect the modules concerned to be closed source and compiled against particular versions of the libraries with particular versions of compiler. And we have all come across the situation of library or compiler mismatch that means that something will not work even it it is using the same API.
The source s available, but are new that they're apparently only in the development versions of the drivers, they just haven't been released yet. It's a bit of a buzz to look in the manual for a new laptop and see the GPL in all its glory :-) Then to boot straight from the box into Linux... John. -- Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 19:14 +0000, John Layt wrote:
It's a bit of a buzz to look in the manual for a new laptop and see the GPL in all its glory :-) Then to boot straight from the box into Linux...
That settles it. I'll have to buy one. Got to support that and it'll be fun too. Cheers, Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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On Wednesday 14 November 2007, G T Smith wrote:
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Well, the simplified Xandros will get a run for a week or so, but part of my excuse for buying is I hack on KDE4 (nothing major, but it fills the time) so I'm eager to see how well we cope with the form factor, especially as Plasma was designed with this sort of thing in mind. KDE3 applications are a major part of the eee, and I know they've had to hack some of the dialogs to fit the screen size, so I'd like to see what we can do in KDE4 to make things easier.
So Xandros isn't a long term option for that, and I've heard the Kubuntu KDE4 packages may not be as good as the openSuse ones, so the green one will get a run, even if only a dual boot from flash. I don't think I'll try compiling KDE4 on it :-)
But yeah, it's the wireless and camera that seem the biggest issue, but NDISwrapper apparently works and I can cope without a camera if needs be.
John.
I get the picture... I am going to be watching how well the eee is received after the initial launch with some interest... I still occasionally miss my PSION netbook and although this has nothing like the same battery life it looks like a worthy potential replacement... and one could avoid the data synchronisation issues with the current Nokia clamshells...
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On Tuesday 13 November 2007, John Layt said:
So, anyone tried putting 10.3 on an Asus eee yet? Does it work without much hacking? I'm thinking of going with a KDE4 only install :-)
Not yet since they aren't on sale in Germany. I had a go on one, it was a 256Mb/2Gb version but everything except OO.o started quickly. KDE4 is the obvious upgrade - the amount of shared infrastructure that only we have will make the most out of the limited resources these machines have. While doing usability work on Kopete recently I have start to optimise dialogs for size on the side, with an eye to making them fit on smaller displays like this one. Will -- Desktop Engineer KDE Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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