My system seems to slow down after an hour of so. 30-40 sec to load kpat (freecell), etc. Is there a way to check to see if my swap file is working properly and being utilized adequately? I want to get tar (it's not on my install-go figure) from the suse 8.0 cds, but the install program can not find it. It is looking at a database, not the cd, I believe. Why am I being told that I need to load a netscape plug-in to download an rpm file (I am running kde-konqueror). If this is a kde issue, please advise, I'll bother that list! tia, John Sowden American Sentry Systems. Inc. 1221 Andersen Drive San Rafael, CA 94901 U.L. Listed Central Station Alarm Service Serving the San Francisco Bay Area Since 1967 jsowden@americansentry.net http://www.americansentry.net
On Monday 17 February 2003 01.55, John Sowden wrote:
Why am I being told that I need to load a netscape plug-in to download an rpm file (I am running kde-konqueror). If this is a kde issue, please advise, I'll bother that list!
I suspect it's because konqueror thinks it's a Real Player Media file, so it thinks it needs the real player plugin. Go to the settings and edit the application settings for audio/realaudio (I think it's called, you can search for 'rpm' in the File Associations dialog) and remove the .rpm suffix for it.
On Sun, 2003-02-16 at 18:55, John Sowden wrote:
My system seems to slow down after an hour of so. 30-40 sec to load kpat (freecell), etc. Is there a way to check to see if my swap file is working properly and being utilized adequately?
"free" shows swap/memory stats I don't know what might be causing the slow down. Maybe your priority for swap is too low? you can check it by "more /proc/swaps" or in your /etc/fstab file. The default for 8.1 is: /dev/hda2 swap swap pri=42 0 0 KDE system guard, Gnome system monitor, or top; might help show you some on goings as well.
I want to get tar (it's not on my install-go figure) from the suse 8.0 cds, but the install program can not find it. It is looking at a database, not the cd, I believe.
If you are using suse 8.1, GNU tar is under package name "tar". Did you run a search for it via YaST? -- JericAtSbcglobalDotNetwork 8:35pm up 2:32, 5 users, load average: 0.10, 0.06, 0.02 "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated..." -U.S. Constitution, Amendment IV, 1791 (Say "NO" to TIA!)
still slow, but now I have stats, 5 min after boot: 48mb ram, 44mb used, 1.5 mb free, 128mb swap, 16mb swap used, 104mb swap free, 59 processes, 3 processes using .4 to 3% of system 2 hours after boot: 44mb used, 1.5 mb free, 60mb used, 60 mb free, 55 processes, same sys usage constant disk thrashing, 2 min to bring kpath(freecell) to the screen no programs running on desktop except sys guard note: is it possible that a cron is defragging the disk (you know, the great linux filesystem that does not need defragging, but no one explains). this might cause oscillation between the 4mb of free ram vs the swap. On Sunday 16 February 2003 18:50, Jeric wrote:
On Sun, 2003-02-16 at 18:55, John Sowden wrote:
My system seems to slow down after an hour of so. 30-40 sec to load kpat (freecell), etc. Is there a way to check to see if my swap file is working properly and being utilized adequately?
"free" shows swap/memory stats I don't know what might be causing the slow down. Maybe your priority for swap is too low? you can check it by "more /proc/swaps" or in your /etc/fstab file. The default for 8.1 is: /dev/hda2 swap swap pri=42 0 0
KDE system guard, Gnome system monitor, or top; might help show you some on goings as well.
I want to get tar (it's not on my install-go figure) from the suse 8.0 cds, but the install program can not find it. It is looking at a database, not the cd, I believe.
If you are using suse 8.1, GNU tar is under package name "tar". Did you run a search for it via YaST?
-- John Sowden American Sentry Systems. Inc. 1221 Andersen Drive San Rafael, CA 94901 U.L. Listed Central Station Alarm Service Serving the San Francisco Bay Area Since 1967 jsowden@americansentry.net http://www.americansentry.net
note: is it possible that a cron is defragging the disk (you know, the great linux filesystem that does not need defragging, but no one explains).
There is a great deal of information about Linux filesystems available via Google. I think those documents attempt explain them. There are rather numerous filesystems available for Linux, it would seem highly unlikely that any of them could require that level of defragmentaion, if that's what you'd prefer to call it. -- Fergus Wilde Chetham's Library Long Millgate Manchester M3 1SB Tel: +44 161 834 7961 Fax: +44 161 839 5797 http://www.chethams.org.uk
On Monday 17 February 2003 21:00, John Sowden wrote:
still slow, but now I have stats, 5 min after boot: 48mb ram, 44mb used, 1.5 mb free, 128mb swap, 16mb swap used, 104mb swap free, 59 processes, 3 processes using .4 to 3% of system
2 hours after boot: 44mb used, 1.5 mb free, 60mb used, 60 mb free, 55 processes, same sys usage constant disk thrashing, 2 min to bring kpath(freecell) to the screen no programs running on desktop except sys guard
note: is it possible that a cron is defragging the disk (you know, the great linux filesystem that does not need defragging, but no one explains). this might cause oscillation between the 4mb of free ram vs the swap.
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-- John Sowden American Sentry Systems. Inc. 1221 Andersen Drive San Rafael, CA 94901
U.L. Listed Central Station Alarm Service Serving the San Francisco Bay Area Since 1967
jsowden@americansentry.net http://www.americansentry.net
"48 mb" of memory isn't much if you are running a modern desktop environment. Linux will use all of the memory on your system that it can for many purposes, but running a big GUI like KDE or Gnome with that small amount of memory is asking for swapping. Even any of the NT based MS systems would want more memory than that. You might look into purchasing more memory or using a lighter desktop. -- Kelly L. Fulks Home Account
Kelly L. Fulks wrote:
still slow, but now I have stats, 5 min after boot: 48mb ram, 44mb used, 1.5 mb free, 128mb swap, 16mb swap used, 104mb swap free, 59 processes, 3 processes using .4 to 3% of system
How long did it take to install on this system? I'm doing now an installation on a k62-400 64 MB RAM, text only, "minimal system", no graphics, and it's swapping to death, 4 hours estimated time. I think YaST doesn't like memory-tight systems. -- Linux/Unix Systems Engineer http://www.genesys.ro Phone +40723-267961
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Anders Johansson
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Fergus Wilde
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Jeric
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John Sowden
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Kelly L. Fulks
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Silviu Marin-Caea