[opensuse] Pesky Red entries in Yast
Having cut over to the CURRENT KDE repositories, I have some packages that are offered both by KDE and some portion of Opensuse. These show up in YAST as red version numbers "(installed)available" and the version from KDE Current is invariably the one listed as Available, and it is a LOWER version than the currently installed one. One (of many) examples: SCANLITE Alternate Version_____________________________Installed Version Version: 1.1-4.1 1.1-4.3 Build Time: Sat 29 Mar 2014 02:29:28 AM PDT Sun 12 Jan 2014 08:46:33 PM PST Now I would expect that the KDE version would be the latest, because that repository is newer, and the build time is later than the version that is installed. But because someone is playing fast and loose with the version numbers, the older one has a later version number. That older version came from repository KDE:Extra / KDE_Release_412_openSUSE_12.3 PRIOR to the creation and publication of the CURRENT kde extra repositories. Why is this? Why does the old (no longer visible) KDE EXTRA repository have newer versions than the NEWly created CURRENT branch? What should be done with the RED Yast entries? Just ignore them in the hopes that they eventually sort themselves out? (Some NEVER will, because the version numbers differ so wildly). -- Explain again the part about rm -rf / -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 14/04/14 13:42, John Andersen wrote:
Having cut over to the CURRENT KDE repositories, I have some packages that are offered both by KDE and some portion of Opensuse.
These show up in YAST as red version numbers "(installed)available" and the version from KDE Current is invariably the one listed as Available, and it is a LOWER version than the currently installed one.
One (of many) examples: SCANLITE
Alternate Version_____________________________Installed Version Version: 1.1-4.1 1.1-4.3 Build Time: Sat 29 Mar 2014 02:29:28 AM PDT Sun 12 Jan 2014 08:46:33 PM PST
Now I would expect that the KDE version would be the latest, because that repository is newer, and the build time is later than the version that is installed.
But because someone is playing fast and loose with the version numbers, the older one has a later version number.
That older version came from repository KDE:Extra / KDE_Release_412_openSUSE_12.3 PRIOR to the creation and publication of the CURRENT kde extra repositories.
Why is this?
Why does the old (no longer visible) KDE EXTRA repository have newer versions than the NEWly created CURRENT branch?
What should be done with the RED Yast entries? Just ignore them in the hopes that they eventually sort themselves out? (Some NEVER will, because the version numbers differ so wildly).
Two things, John: have you allowed "Allow vendor change"; and have you tried using the VERSION option for each entry and select the one you want (but first deleting the "wrong" one from, say, the old KDE:Extra)? Also, (three and four :-) ), what does zypper show, and what priority settings do you have for the repos in YaST - is the new KDE:Current given priority over the old repos? BC -- Using openSUSE 13.1, KDE 4.12.4 & kernel 3.14.0-2 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 4/13/2014 8:59 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:
Two things, John: have you allowed "Allow vendor change"; and have you tried using the VERSION option for each entry and select the one you want (but first deleting the "wrong" one from, say, the old KDE:Extra)?
I haven't made ANY selections to force one or the other at this point, because I have conflicting information about how to make such a choice. That is what I am asking here; Why did the older (no longer existent) repositories have packages with later version numbers than the NEWER Current repository. I know how to force a change, but no information as to whether to do so.
Also, (three and four :-) ), what does zypper show, and what priority settings do you have for the repos in YaST - is the new KDE:Current given priority over the old repos?
I don't use Zypper. I leave that to yast. All repositories are the same priority, and adjusting priorities, or allowing vendor changes wouldn't help, because these do not over-ride a version number difference (unless I force the change). I don't want to force the change. I shouldn't have to. I suspect the packages in KDE Current are actually OLDER than we are lead to believe they are, and perhaps some changes may have been lost, since the newer repository has older packages. -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 6:24 AM, John Andersen <jsamyth@gmail.com> wrote:
I suspect the packages in KDE Current are actually OLDER than we are lead to believe they are, and perhaps some changes may have been lost, since the newer repository has older packages.
I see the same thing. I took a cursory look over the versions (not an exhaustive inspection though) that were in red in my KDE repo view and saw similar to what you noted:
Version: 1.1-4.1 1.1-4.3
This tells me (based on what I remember from discussions on this from years ago) that they are the exact same version... only that the one marked 1.1-4.3 was pushed through the build service one or two more times than the one marked 1.1-4.1... it's the same source version. YaST will mark this rebuild as a different version, but... it's not really different. Since, in my cursory look, all of the red marked versions in the KDE part of my YaST looked to be this, I ignored it. It goes away when the new repo version is rebuilt for whatever reason. C. -- openSUSE 13.1 x86_64, KDE 4.12 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-04-14 07:42, C wrote:
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 6:24 AM, John Andersen <> wrote:
Version: 1.1-4.1 1.1-4.3
This tells me (based on what I remember from discussions on this from years ago) that they are the exact same version... only that the one marked 1.1-4.3 was pushed through the build service one or two more times than the one marked 1.1-4.1... it's the same source version. YaST will mark this rebuild as a different version, but... it's not really different.
What I do is, in yast, select the tab "repositories", and then choose the "unmaintained packages" secondary filter. I can thus see all packages listed that do not have a repository, in red. Then I select the "versions" tab on the right hand panel, and click on an appropriate version from the repo I want each package, one by one, tediously. Or, alternatively, with the new repo selected as first filter (secondary to "all"), click on "switch system packages to the versions in this repository". I do not use "Allow vendor change", too general. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On 04/14/2014 12:24 AM, John Andersen wrote:
I don't want to force the change. I shouldn't have to. I suspect the packages in KDE Current are actually OLDER than we are lead to believe they are, and perhaps some changes may have been lost, since the newer repository has older packages.
+1 -- Not all stars become black holes. Some of them become accountants. Many astrophysicists claim this is a semantic argument. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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