An alternative to software.opensuse.org?
software.opensuse.org, frankly, 'sucks' :-( . It is used as the source of the upgrades to KDE. Even though I am on broadband, every time KDE rpms get upgraded I end up with having downloads done at as low as 1Bps - yes *1* byte/sec, or simply hanging/timing out. And when this is the throughput for a RPM as small as ~45MB then the whole upgrading exercise becomes a damn farce. I have looked at the info on the 'Suse' site for the sources of files but cannot readily see an alternative/mirror for software.opensuse.org which contains the latest KDE upgrades (for 10.1). One would think that a site like software.opensuse.org would have sufficient bandwidth to handle all connections efficiently and expeditiously seeing as who owns it, but..... Does anyone know, please, of an alternate site to the above so that KDE upgrades can get done within a reasonable time span and not the aeons - and not to mention all the restarts one has to perform! - it now takes? Cheers. -- "Every burned book enlightens the world." Ralph Waldo Emerson
On Friday 06 October 2006 00:12, Basil Chupin wrote:
Does anyone know, please, of an alternate site to the above so that KDE upgrades can get done within a reasonable time span and not the aeons - and not to mention all the restarts one has to perform! - it now takes?
http://www.kde.org/mirrors/ftp.php -- Kind regards, M Harris <><
M Harris wrote:
On Friday 06 October 2006 00:12, Basil Chupin wrote:
Does anyone know, please, of an alternate site to the above so that KDE upgrades can get done within a reasonable time span and not the aeons - and not to mention all the restarts one has to perform! - it now takes?
Thanks for this, but I have a feeling that this would contain the 'basic' KDE stuff which is then 'massaged' by, say, Suse to suit Suse. In fact, there is a link for the Suse massaged apps and..... it looks like it points to the software.openssuse.org site :-( . But I may be wrong. Cheers. -- "Every burned book enlightens the world." Ralph Waldo Emerson
On Friday 06 October 2006 00:41, Basil Chupin wrote:
Thanks for this, but I have a feeling that this would contain the 'basic' KDE stuff which is then 'massaged' by, say, Suse to suit Suse. In fact, there is a link for the Suse massaged apps and..... it looks like it points to the software.openssuse.org site :-( .
rats. Well, sorry-- I think you're right... -- Kind regards, M Harris <><
On Friday 06 October 2006 15:12, Basil Chupin wrote:
Even though I am on broadband, every time KDE rpms get upgraded I end up with having downloads done at as low as 1Bps - yes *1* byte/sec, or simply hanging/timing out. And when this is the throughput for a RPM as small as ~45MB then the whole upgrading exercise becomes a damn farce.
One would think that a site like software.opensuse.org would have sufficient bandwidth to handle all connections efficiently and expeditiously seeing as who owns it, but.....
Hi Basil, I'm also using TPG as my ISP, just changed over to ADSL2+. I have noticed that the bandwidth out of Australia seems to be a problem with TPG, when I was on Westnet I seemed to have much better throughput. Anyway to the problem at hand. There appears to be no mirrors in Australia for the software.opensuse.org repositories. IInet and Pacific Internet only hold the original packages. At a guess I think there are some mirrors tied to software.opensuse.org that are overstressed also there appears only to be a few servers mirroring this site. I wish one of the ISP's here would do the mirroring. I have been using ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/opensuse/repositories/ and getting much better throughput. -- Regards, Graham Smith
Graham Smith wrote:
On Friday 06 October 2006 15:12, Basil Chupin wrote:
Even though I am on broadband, every time KDE rpms get upgraded I end up with having downloads done at as low as 1Bps - yes *1* byte/sec, or simply hanging/timing out. And when this is the throughput for a RPM as small as ~45MB then the whole upgrading exercise becomes a damn farce.
Well, I'm on broadband, too, here in the USA, and I see exactly the same thing. I've found that when zen collapses with these errors, I get better results by DE-selecting everything, then selecting a few things at a time. For instance, this morning, I had 3 bind updates, which I selected together, then kdsbase3, kdevelop3, and kdevelop3-doc together, then a dozen or so of the kdegraphics stuff. All went smoothly, after failing twice. The first two tries took nearly an hour each (I wasn't actually using the computer at the time), and the 3-part success took less than half an hour. No, I don't know whether it was just blind luck that the server got free for the last try, but I do know that I've seen this same phenomenon many times. Most of my successful large or kde updates are now piecemeal like this. -- John Perry
Graham Smith wrote:
On Friday 06 October 2006 15:12, Basil Chupin wrote:
Even though I am on broadband, every time KDE rpms get upgraded I end up with having downloads done at as low as 1Bps - yes *1* byte/sec, or simply hanging/timing out. And when this is the throughput for a RPM as small as ~45MB then the whole upgrading exercise becomes a damn farce.
One would think that a site like software.opensuse.org would have sufficient bandwidth to handle all connections efficiently and expeditiously seeing as who owns it, but.....
Hi Basil,
I'm also using TPG as my ISP, just changed over to ADSL2+. I have noticed that the bandwidth out of Australia seems to be a problem with TPG, when I was on Westnet I seemed to have much better throughput.
Hi Graham, Nope, not a problem associated with TPG. Don't blame TPG[1]. I get top throughput on all sites (except, of course, on those which deliberately throttle their output) all over the world and only get this crap from software.opensuse.org.
Anyway to the problem at hand. There appears to be no mirrors in Australia for the software.opensuse.org repositories. IInet and Pacific Internet only hold the original packages. At a guess I think there are some mirrors tied to software.opensuse.org
Do you know who they are?
that are overstressed also there appears only to be a few servers mirroring this site.
Who are they do you know?
I wish one of the ISP's here would do the mirroring.
Don't hold your breath :-( .
I have been using ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/opensuse/repositories/ and getting much better throughput.
Thanks, I'll check this one out although I am pretty sure I already have it as one of the sources but it doesn't have the latest KDE upgrades if I recall correctly. I will look at this after I send this reply to you. [1] For 5 years a friend of mine blamed TPG for all his problems when both of us were on dial-up with TPG. For 5 years I kept telling him it was his modem which was the problem. For 5 years he said his modem was not the problem, that it was TPG and it *was* TPG because another friend of his was *also* having the same connection problems with TPG. I kept saying that both he and his friend had bum modems and should have them checked out. I even offered him my modem to try out to prove that the problem was not at TPG but he said that it would not prove anything because it was TPG at fault. (Reason why he was so set on the fact that it was not his modem causing problems was because he - and, coincidentlally his other friend :-) , bought the Maestro "Woomera" modem which was specially designed to be used on the worst possible telephone lines in Australia :-) .) A couple of years ago he moved house (interstate, but still close to Canberra) and had to use Telstra dial-up while waiting for his ISDN/satellite hook-up to be installed. His connections with Telstra were atrocious. I gave him my modem to try out, and he begrudgingly agreed to try out my modem. Immediately all his connections were at ~48K and his throughput went between 47Kbps to ~50Kbps - which is what I was getting for over 5 years. Cheers. -- "Every burned book enlightens the world." Ralph Waldo Emerson
Graham Smith wrote: ]pruned]
I have been using ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/opensuse/repositories/ and getting much better throughput.
Follow-up to my earlier message. I've just checked out this source and I was wrong- it does have the KDE packages so I'll put this source as an alternative to the crappy one and see how it performs. Cheers. -- "Every burned book enlightens the world." Ralph Waldo Emerson
participants (4)
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Basil Chupin
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Graham Smith
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John E. Perry
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M Harris