On Sunday 10 December 2006 13:54, John K Masters wrote:

Thanks for the reply; I'd forgotten about Audacity. Unfortunately, I installed Audacity from Suse repo but on trying to load a MP3 file it tells me Audacity was not compiled with MP3 support.

Really Audacity is overkill for what I want to do.

Install the Packman version and also make sure lame is installed to get around the 'oem' SUSE restriction. Audacity may look like it's "overkill" but you might be surprised to find, after a little use, that it is very easy *and* handy for editing out lots of "ummms" and "aahhhhs" as well as coughs and sneezes, etc. ;-) I guess it always depends on one's application. regards, Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 19:39:07 +0000 John K Masters wrote:

On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:02:47 -0500 Carl Hartung wrote:

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Install the Packman version and also make sure lame is installed to get around the 'oem' SUSE restriction. Audacity may look like it's "overkill" but you might be surprised to find, after a little use, that it is very easy *and* handy for editing out lots of "ummms" and "aahhhhs" as well as coughs and sneezes, etc. ;-)

I guess it always depends on one's application.

regards,

Carl

Hmm already hitting the dependancy issues that drove me to Debian. :)

Installed libmad but rpm -Uvf audacity* fails dependancy libmad.so.0

Googled like mad (pun intended) for a solution but it seems that this is common and unsolvable. Despite installing libmad and all the other depends, audacity will still not compile as it cannot find libmad. -- John K Masters - User #417400 in the Linux Counter http://counter.li.org/ No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 15:52:05 -0500 Carl Hartung wrote:

On Sunday 10 December 2006 15:38, John K Masters wrote:

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Googled like mad (pun intended) for a solution but it seems that this is common and unsolvable. Despite installing libmad and all the other depends, audacity will still not compile as it cannot find libmad.

You do not need to compile Audacity, John. I have never had to compile Audacity for SUSE and I use it all the time.

Carl

Carl. Thank you for your patience but it seems I DO have to compile as the repos, including Packman, do NOT provide Audacity with MP3 support WITHOUT installing extra libs, which the RPM then does not see. If you Google for ``audacity libmad'' you will see many examples of failed attempts to install Audacity and NO solutions. It seems it's a Suse thing. Not to worry, I'm only passing through as they say. I have tried hard to like Suse over the years (and there are a lot of things to like) but I shall probably go back to Deb or maybe Slack. Peace! -- John K Masters - User #417400 in the Linux Counter http://counter.li.org/ No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sunday 10 December 2006 21:37, John K Masters wrote:

Thank you for your patience but it seems I DO have to compile as the repos, including Packman, do NOT provide Audacity with MP3 support WITHOUT installing extra libs, which the RPM then does not see. If you Google for ``audacity libmad'' you will see many examples of failed attempts to install Audacity and NO solutions. It seems it's a Suse thing. Not to worry, I'm only passing through as they say.

I have tried hard to like Suse over the years (and there are a lot of things to like) but I shall probably go back to Deb or maybe Slack.

Peace!

Hi John I've got Audacity installed on opensuse 10.2 with full MP3 support, including audacity. The default installation contains zero support for MP3s apart from the realplayer engine if you include the non-oss CD or installation source. I use smart to do my package management and have the following channels set up. They provide just about everything I need to run a great desktop distro. talshiar:/home/peter # smart channel --show [rpm-sys] type = rpm-sys name = RPM System [Opensuse mirror] type = yast2 name = opensuse_mirror baseurl = http://mirrors.kernel.org/opensuse/distribution/10.2/repo/oss/ [guru] type = yast2 name = Guru 3rd party package repository baseurl = http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/10.2 [X11:XGL] type = rpm-md name = Repository for Xgl and related packages that give your Desktop some bling (openSUSE_10.2) baseurl = http://software.opensuse.org/download/X11:/XGL/openSUSE_10.2/ [Mirror non-oss] type = yast2 name = mirror-non-oss baseurl = http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.opensuse.org/pub/opensuse/distributio... [packman] type = rpm-md name = packman baseurl = ftp://packman.links2linux.org/pub/packman/suse/10.2/ [smart] type = rpm-md name = Guru smart repository priority = 10 baseurl = http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/smart/repo/10.2 If you use smart, add these channels (use the command 'smart channel --show' to check them, you should be able to do a 'smart --gui' then select some interesting software in the Productivity/Multimedia/Sound section. Don't forget mplayer and the w32 codecs! Good luck Cheers Pete -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Monday 11 December 2006 00:32, John K Masters wrote:

Looks good. I installed smart and all your suggested repos. Installed Audacity (after uninstalling previous attempt) but still get the same message about not compiled with MP3 support. BTW I am streaming MP3's off my server quite successfully using Rhythmbox.

You can do it too with YaST. Add http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/packman/suse/10.2 as an installation source to YaST (YaST -> Software -> Installation Source). Install audacity from **packman** with YaST (YaST -> Software -> Software Management). To identify audacity from packman, note the 'pm' in the version (column 'Avail.Ver.'). I installed 1.3.2-0.pm.beta. Or check the "Version"-tab in the bottom-right pane of YaST. You should have to versions there: 1.2.4b-55 from openSUSE and 1.3.2-0.pm.beta (packman's). Select Packman's. Click the "Accept" button. In my case, a window opened, notifying Automatic changes: libid3tag, libmspack, mad, wxGTK. The mad package is from packman. These 4 packages are also installed. Click "Continue" to continue (doh!). After installing, I ran audacity, and opened an mp3-file. It imported the file, without complaining. I pressed the "Play"-button and the file played (I could hear it). I guess this audacity does have mp3 support. #> rpm -qa | egrep 'audacity|lame' lame-3.96.1-2 twolame-0.3.8-0.pm.1 audacity-1.3.2-0.pm.beta Cheers, Leen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sunday 10 December 2006 23:42, John K Masters wrote:

YES! It needed a reboot after uninstalling Audacity but now working. Thanks a lot.

No bother, glad it worked out.

:) Still think Debians apt is better.

No comment :)

But may hang around Suse for a while.

Good to have you around Cheers Pete -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

J Sloan a écrit :

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YES! It needed a reboot after uninstalling Audacity but now working. Thanks a lot.

Glad you got it working, but somehow I doubt there was any need for a reboot. Probably that was just one way of reloading a service or something - in 12 years of linux I've never seen a case where it was necessary to reboot after installing a program.

try (as root) : rc <TAB> (type the letters r then c then the TAB key) to see the list of restartable services (one of the handy openSUSE things :-)

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:) Still think Debians apt is better.

It's all about the repositories!

Joe

after some month of openSUSE living, try debian, just to see what happens... jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/mediawiki/index.php/GPS_Lowrance_GO -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 08:45:16 -0800 Randall R Schulz wrote:

On Tuesday 12 December 2006 02:08, jdd wrote:

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Glad you got it working, but somehow I doubt there was any need for a reboot. Probably that was just one way of reloading a service or something - in 12 years of linux I've never seen a case where it was necessary to reboot after installing a program.

try (as root) :

rc <TAB> (type the letters r then c then the TAB key) to see the list of restartable services (one of the handy openSUSE things :-)

You'll probably need two presses of the TAB key. The first one will just beep, the second will list all available completions in the context of the current cursor position within the current command line.

Good tip, thanks. I'm so used to /etc/init.d that I'll probably continue using that. I can see I'll have to read up on the differences between Suse and Debian. Problem is I run a couple of Debian servers where I only have SSH access so I don't want to go trying Suse specific commands there :) -- John K Masters - User #417400 in the Linux Counter http://counter.li.org/ No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Tuesday 12 December 2006 19:31, Randall R Schulz wrote:

On Tuesday 12 December 2006 10:17, John K Masters wrote: ... Here's another fun trick:

- Type rc This will produce a "command" line containing all the expansions for commands whose names start with "rc" (and are in the current PATH).

I tried that, I only got two. Is this the same as: --8<--[man:bash]-- dynamic-complete-history (M-TAB) Attempt completion on the text before point, comparing the text against lines from the history list for possible completion matches. --8<-- Cheers, Leen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 16:55:59 -0500 Carl Hartung wrote:

On Sunday 10 December 2006 16:37, John K Masters wrote:

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Thank you for your patience but it seems I DO have to compile as the repos, including Packman, do NOT provide Audacity with MP3 support WITHOUT installing extra libs, which the RPM then does not see.

This is simply wrong, John. I import/export mp3 files with Audacity all the time. I've *never* had to compile it for SUSE:

a. Install Audacity. b. Install lame (presently lame-3.96.1-2 on my system. c. In Audacity, 'Edit->Preferences->File Formats' d. browse to or enter '/usr/bin/lame' so Audacity can "see" it e. import and export mp3 files with Audacity

And as I explained I do a,b,c,d e and get ``This version of Audacity was not compiled with MP3 support.'' -- John K Masters - User #417400 in the Linux Counter http://counter.li.org/ No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 00:18:49 +0100 Pascal Bleser wrote:

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And as I explained I do a,b,c,d e and get ``This version of Audacity was not compiled with MP3 support.''

Just do yourself a favor:

For 10.2/32bit: http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/suser-guru/rpm/packages/Sound/mp3splt/mp3splt-2.1c-...

For 10.2/64bit: http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/suser-guru/rpm/packages/Sound/mp3splt/mp3splt-2.1c-...

RPMs for 10.1, 10.0, 9.3 and 9.2 are available there as well.

mp3splt is what you're looking for.

No! MP3splt is not what I'm looking for. Installed the i686.rpm from guru but it just crashes at start -- John K Masters - User #417400 in the Linux Counter http://counter.li.org/ No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 00:36:33 +0100 Pascal Bleser wrote:

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mp3splt is what you're looking for.

No! MP3splt is not what I'm looking for. Installed the i686.rpm from guru but it just crashes at start

Install mp3splt-debuginfo, ulimit -c unlimited, run it and send me the backtrace.

You don't expect me to be able to fix it with "it just crashes at start", do you ? ;)

Thanks but I've now got Audacity running. -- John K Masters - User #417400 in the Linux Counter http://counter.li.org/ No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Sunday 10 December 2006 14:39, John K Masters wrote:

Hmm already hitting the dependancy issues that drove me to Debian. :)

PEBCAK! ;-)

Installed libmad but rpm -Uvf audacity* fails dependancy libmad.so.0

This is the first I've used Suse since 7.1 and, although much easier to install, it is still suffering from an outdated package management system.

There is nothing "outdated" about rpm, John. You just haven't learned how to configure your installation sources correctly. There are 'third party' package repositories (like Packman and Guru, for example) and alternative 'package management' front-ends available, too, including smart and apt.

I've used Audacity before on Debian and Slackware but never for splitting MP3's.

If you're having problems installing Audacity, that doesn't mean it isn't worth installing or that it isn't an appropriate tool for the kind of project you described. I repeat: one's choice of tools is driven by the requirements. If you're splitting 'commercial/broadcast quality' audio then Audacity might not be an appropriate choice. But I have no way of knowing that. You only said the files were 'long' and needed to be split into shorter segments. In these situations I sometimes prefer to 'audition' prospective break points by ear. I also like to add fade-out/fade-in effects, as needed, and to 'normalize' and/or 'compress' and/or 'equalize' and/or filter out unwanted noise, also as needed. So, use whatever tool you like best that you can get installed. Linux is all about choice, right? regards, Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org