Suse professional and opensuse

Cristian Del Carlo

1 Sep 2005 1 Sep '05

08:08

I list , i have visited the site http://www.opensuse.org but i have not understand the relaptionship between suse professional and opensuse: 1) There it will be a Suse Professional 10 ? 2) If yes, which differeces there will be from Opensuse 10? 3) The security fix of Opensuse 10 for how much time are guaranteed? 4) Is possible to update from suse professional 9.3 to opensuse 10? Thanks. Cristian Del Carlo

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Andreas Jaeger

1 Sep 1 Sep

08:22

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Cristian Del Carlo writes:

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I list , i have visited the site http://www.opensuse.org but i have not understand the relaptionship between suse professional and opensuse: 1) There it will be a Suse Professional 10 ?

SUSE Linux 10.0 - we removed the "Professional" from the name.

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2) If yes, which differeces there will be from Opensuse 10?

There's no openSUSE. OpenSUSE is the project and it delivers a distribution. There's a SUSE Linux OSS edition that only contains open source packages.

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3) The security fix of Opensuse 10 for how much time are guaranteed?

For snapshots and betas: never. For final versions: Same timeframe as the retail product.

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4) Is possible to update from suse professional 9.3 to opensuse 10?

It is possible to SUSE Linux 10.0, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

Peter Van Lone

11:03

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On 9/1/05, Andreas Jaeger wrote: Andreas, just to make sure I am understanding:

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There's no openSUSE. OpenSUSE is the project and it delivers a distribution.

There's a SUSE Linux OSS edition that only contains open source packages.

so, the distribution this project delivers will be called SUSE 10 or, open SUSE 10?

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4) Is possible to update from suse professional 9.3 to opensuse 10?

It is possible to SUSE Linux 10.0,

so to upgrade from SUSE Pro 9.3 to Open SUSE 10 is not possible, because there is non-OSS software in the 9.3 pro distribution? Can you briefly say what the non-oss packages are? JAVA for one, probably? What else? Peter

Marcus Meissner

11:08

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On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 06:03:57AM -0500, Peter Van Lone wrote:

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On 9/1/05, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

Andreas,

just to make sure I am understanding:

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There's no openSUSE. OpenSUSE is the project and it delivers a distribution.

There's a SUSE Linux OSS edition that only contains open source packages.

so, the distribution this project delivers will be called SUSE 10 or, open SUSE 10?

Can you read? "SUSE Linux 10.0" And yes, the .0 is important because the next won't be "11" but "10.1". Ciao, Marcus

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4) Is possible to update from suse professional 9.3 to opensuse 10?

It is possible to SUSE Linux 10.0,

so to upgrade from SUSE Pro 9.3 to Open SUSE 10 is not possible, because there is non-OSS software in the 9.3 pro distribution?

Try reading Andreas mail.

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Can you briefly say what the non-oss packages are? JAVA for one, probably? What else?

Everything not opensource compatible, java, acroread, realplayer, flash, etc. Ciao, Marcus

Andreas Jaeger

14:01

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Peter Van Lone writes:

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On 9/1/05, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

Andreas,

just to make sure I am understanding:

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There's no openSUSE. OpenSUSE is the project and it delivers a distribution.

There's a SUSE Linux OSS edition that only contains open source packages.

so, the distribution this project delivers will be called SUSE 10 or, open SUSE 10?

"SUSE Linux 10.0"

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4) Is possible to update from suse professional 9.3 to opensuse 10?

It is possible to SUSE Linux 10.0,

so to upgrade from SUSE Pro 9.3 to Open SUSE 10 is not possible, because there is non-OSS software in the 9.3 pro distribution?

Can you briefly say what the non-oss packages are? JAVA for one, probably? What else?

Java, Acrobat Reader, Flashplayer, Realplayer,... Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

Kai Ponte

13:33

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Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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4) Is possible to update from suse professional 9.3 to opensuse 10?

It is possible to SUSE Linux 10.0,

Though I have enough experience already to say not to upgrade. Simply install new and copy your /home folder over. :) -- kai

pelibali

4 Sep 4 Sep

14:59

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On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 06:33:25 -0700 Kai Ponte <.> wrote:

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Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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4) Is possible to update from suse professional 9.3 to opensuse 10?

It is possible to SUSE Linux 10.0,

Though I have enough experience already to say not to upgrade. Simply install new and copy your /home folder over. :)

And what's about to fix possible changes in UID/GID? Would it be really so easy? pelibali

Randall R Schulz

5 Sep 5 Sep

17:02

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Pelibali, On Sunday 04 September 2005 07:59, pelibali wrote:

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And what's about to fix possible changes in UID/GID? Would it be really so easy?

Make sure you override the default IDs assigned during installation (you're given the opportunity to do this). If you have only a few users (and groups), it's easily done manually.

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pelibali

Randall Schulz

jdd sur free

18:37

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pelibali wrote:

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On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 06:33:25 -0700 Kai Ponte <.> wrote:

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Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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4) Is possible to update from suse professional 9.3 to opensuse 10? It is possible to SUSE Linux 10.0, Though I have enough experience already to say not to upgrade. Simply install new and copy your /home folder over. :)

And what's about to fix possible changes in UID/GID? Would it be really so easy?

say, It would be nice if you could try the update (of course, backup your data before) and report the result. I you are cautious this should not break the wall, but I'm curious to see how the update cope with UID change. Nobody yet can say if this will be successfull, there is not final SUSE 10 right now (but fairly nice betas :-) if you want to be secure, stay with 9.3 :-) jdd -- pour m'écrire, aller sur: http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.net http://arvamip.free.fr

Andreas Jaeger

18:48

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jdd sur free writes:

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I you are cautious this should not break the wall, but I'm curious to see how the update cope with UID change.

If you add your old home partition as /home again and do a new installation, it will detect that /home/jdanield exists already (if jdanield is your login) and offer to change UID for you. This worked fine for me during my new installations...

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Nobody yet can say if this will be successfull, there is not final SUSE 10 right now (but fairly nice betas :-)

Please call the product SUSE Linux 10.0 - SUSE 10 remains me of SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 (without a dot), Cheers, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

jdd sur free

18:57

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Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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Please call the product SUSE Linux 10.0 - SUSE 10 remains me of SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 (without a dot),

did not know this :-(. Odd numbering... jdd -- pour m'écrire, aller sur: http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.net http://arvamip.free.fr

pelibali

19:14

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Hi Andreas, On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 20:48:25 +0200 Andreas Jaeger <.> wrote: ...

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If you add your old home partition as /home again and do a new installation, it will detect that /home/jdanield exists already (if jdanield is your login) and offer to change UID for you. This worked fine for me during my new installations...

Thanks for the info! It's really good to know, that a feature like this _does_ exist. Until now I never needed it and anyway used to keep UIDs consequent, but who knows when I would cry for it. Pelibali

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