RE: [SLE] Rant -- SuSE 9.1 is Not a Home Desktop solution at all
CSPillis <snip>
"So far" I haven't found any genealogy programs. I would like to use my Window$ program. For that I need Wine, or something equivalent. Wine comes
From what I've seen on the web Bluefish and Coffecup are closely related. In
A quick search turned up a few possibilities.. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=Linux+Genealogy&btnG=Searc h <snip> Thanks. My own seach didn't turn up much. I guess it's all in how you ask the question. *<[:o) It looks like Gramps might have possibilities. <snip> Did you try man wine? I haven't used it since I followed WinE's early development and was familiar with the workings I would need. I'm fairly sure there's a man page for it if you try though. In fact a quick look at winehq confirms this. <snip> "man wine" ??????? Oh well. I did look to the home page for Wine. that's where I downloaded the "latest and greatest". I was reading their "setup" instructions but got confused with what they wanted done. It seems that most of it has to do with command line input and I don't understand the Linux syntax yet. Kind of like reading Greek. *<[:oD BUT, I will get back to it sometime soon. <snip> VIM works just fine for me, or Bluefish. The odd thing for me is most of what I see for CoffeeCup is that it is primarily a WYSIWYG editor. And in non crutch mode resembles Bluefish remarkably. <snip> the text mode editor it looks just like my old time favorite HTMLed (circa mid nineties) that I still use. <snip> Otherwise I would suggest making sure you have the Pro version of SUSE or you might be missing some packages needed for a successful compile. <snip> Does that mean that adding new applications to Personal Edition is going to be a major problem. That seems like a strange deficiency in SUSE. If I was doing it I would make sure the tools to add other applications would be in every box, personal or pro. I guess since I bought the personal edition to "get my feet wet" I'm stuck with just the packaged software. <snip> http://www.tldp.org/tldp-redirect.php?url=/ <snip> Interesting. I just hope that Linux/KDE/Open Office can figure out what opens a *.1/*.2/*.3 file when I find time to look at what was downloaded. Sid Boyce: <snip> First off, SuSE does not include every possible program that's out there, the same is true of Windows and as a matter of fact SuSE includes a broader range of stuff than is included in Windows. <snip> I wouldn't expect SuSE to include "everything". BUT, I would expect it to be able to install/accept whatever I want to add. I will say that SuSE does come a LOT more complete that Window$, and is a great deal comparatively. <snip> I don't know where you downloaded the updated version of wine from and what format it's in, if it's a rpm file, "rpm -qpl wine---.rpm" will tell you where it has installed the bits, if it was from compiled sources, "make install 2>&1|tee inst.out" and look at inst.out to see where it puts the stuff, <snip> It was a Gzip file downloaded from the Wine Home Page that contained all the goodies. When I right clicked on the "rpm" file it wanted to know if I wanted to install with Yast, which I did. After it was all over I looked for some way to start it up. Couldn't find any place to start it. I fired up Yast and did a search for "Wine", nothing found on the hard drive. Hey, I figured that if Yast put it someplace it ought to know where it put it. Right? Next I did a search of the hard drive with Konqueror. Directory by directory looking at all the files in each. There seemed to be bits and pieces of Wine just about everywhere, but nothing that was an executable file. So now I got the "latest and greatest" version of Wine "installed" and no way to run it. <snip> There is such a book though I've never read it to see just how basic it is. Search on freshmeat.net for "rute", download it or buy the book if you need a hardcopy. <snip> I found Rute. Thanks. Mike McMullin <snip> I go back that far as well, Timex\Sinclair though. I liked the basic. <snip> I found one of those a few years ago in a thrift store. Almost bought it, but it didn't have a power supply. Went back a few days later and it was gone. *<[:o( I am gathering a small collection of "antique" computers. I still have my TI99, and it still works, a CoCo3, also works, A TRS80, I need a boot disk for it to run [ in case anyone has one laying in a drawer gathering dust. *<[:o) ], and a few years ago a friend gave me an old Xerox floppy drive box and a box of software on eight inch floppies, that's right 8" floppies. He didn't give me the companion computer though. *<[:o( <snip> Look for, and download, and install, winetools. It will go a long way, if not all the way in the direction that you are looking. <snip> Got it, thanks. <snip> You're not fighting Linux, you're fighting the GUI, and other assorted add-on software. <snip> Most of the time it does what I expect and behaves ever so much better than my WinME install on the other hard drive. <snip> Fortunately right now Windows is doing for you, what you need done, that's great, use it, get your other work done and come back to GNU\Linux when you feel you have the time, and I'm sure someone will be able to help you sort out the niggles with CoffeeCcup. <snip> Right now at my level of experience GUI/Linux is a package deal. If I can't get it going with the GUI then I can't get it going with Linux. It will come. I didn't learn DOS or HTML overnight and I can't expect to learn Linux that way either. I see a long future as a dual boot machine. I have no intention of giving up. I just need to take a little sabbatical while I get my other chores done. A spouse and a mother all with "honey do's" right now. Well at least it will keep me off the streets for a while. *<[:oD When we get settled in our new house there will be time. Once I get enough experience I plan to migrate the rest of the household computers over. (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU." Pass them on!
Sid Boyce: Had a chance to look over rute and it looks like it might be what I needed. Thanks Mike McMullin: Downloaded and unpacked Winetools. Now it just sits there. SuSE doesn't seem to know what it is. Says "Unknown File Type". *<[:o( (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU." Pass them on!
* Billie Walsh
Downloaded and unpacked Winetools. Now it just sits there. SuSE doesn't seem to know what it is. Says "Unknown File Type".
Wrong answer. SuSE knows what Billy Walsh told it. Billy Walsh doesn't know. Go to: http://franksworld.net/winetools.html and read the instructions so you can tell WineTools what to do. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos
On Fri, 2004-06-18 at 13:29, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Billie Walsh
[06-18-04 11:30]: Downloaded and unpacked Winetools. Now it just sits there. SuSE doesn't seem to know what it is. Says "Unknown File Type".
Wrong answer. SuSE knows what Billy Walsh told it. Billy Walsh doesn't know.
Go to: http://franksworld.net/winetools.html
and read the instructions so you can tell WineTools what to do.
Thank you for pointing me to a newer version Patrick. However I like the feel of the old GUI, it reminds me of 3.11 days, the windows was before the blue screen of death was a regular feature. :) Mike
Mike McMullin wrote:
Thank you for pointing me to a newer version Patrick. However I like the feel of the old GUI, it reminds me of 3.11 days, the windows was before the blue screen of death was a regular feature. :)
Ah yes... Back in the Windows for food groups days. ;-)
On Fri, 2004-06-18 at 15:23, James Knott wrote:
Mike McMullin wrote:
Thank you for pointing me to a newer version Patrick. However I like the feel of the old GUI, it reminds me of 3.11 days, the windows was before the blue screen of death was a regular feature. :)
Ah yes... Back in the Windows for food groups days. ;-)
It still works and I have a few apps which dont exist in win32 or *nix. CWSIV
On Friday 18 June 2004 23:42, Carl William Spitzer IV wrote:
On Fri, 2004-06-18 at 15:23, James Knott wrote:
Mike McMullin wrote:
Thank you for pointing me to a newer version Patrick. However I like the feel of the old GUI, it reminds me of 3.11 days, the windows was before the blue screen of death was a regular feature. :)
Ah yes... Back in the Windows for food groups days. ;-)
It still works and I have a few apps which dont exist in win32 or *nix.
CWSIV I found that everything that worked in WFWG worked in Win 95, but not all worked in Win 98. If you have a win 95 machine, try some of those apps. Even Win 95 was a lot more stable than WFWG. --doug
On Sat, 2004-06-19 at 18:01, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On Friday 18 June 2004 23:42, Carl William Spitzer IV wrote:
On Fri, 2004-06-18 at 15:23, James Knott wrote:
Mike McMullin wrote:
Thank you for pointing me to a newer version Patrick. However I like the feel of the old GUI, it reminds me of 3.11 days, the windows was before the blue screen of death was a regular feature. :)
Ah yes... Back in the Windows for food groups days. ;-)
It still works and I have a few apps which dont exist in win32 or *nix.
CWSIV I found that everything that worked in WFWG worked in Win 95, but not all worked in Win 98. If you have a win 95 machine, try some of those apps. Even Win 95 was a lot more stable than WFWG.
interesting my experience diverges from yours I can and do blowup 98 easier tha Win311. Likely If I could afford to play with the more recent ones I could crash them as well. CWSIV
Carl William Spitzer IV wrote:
On Sat, 2004-06-19 at 18:01, Doug McGarrett wrote:
I found that everything that worked in WFWG worked in Win 95, but not all worked in Win 98. If you have a win 95 machine, try some of those apps. Even Win 95 was a lot more stable than WFWG.
interesting my experience diverges from yours I can and do blowup 98 easier tha Win311. Likely If I could afford to play with the more recent ones I could crash them as well.
I used to support users, who had that special "talent". ;-)
James Knott wrote:
Carl William Spitzer IV wrote:
On Sat, 2004-06-19 at 18:01, Doug McGarrett wrote:
I found that everything that worked in WFWG worked in Win 95, but not all worked in Win 98. If you have a win 95 machine, try some of those apps. Even Win 95 was a lot more stable than WFWG.
interesting my experience diverges from yours I can and do blowup 98 easier tha Win311. Likely If I could afford to play with the more recent ones I could crash them as well.
I used to support users, who had that special "talent". ;-)
Talent? It's like procreation, everyone and everything with working parts does it. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and keen Flyer ===== LINUX ONLY USED HERE =====
On Tue, 2004-06-22 at 04:40, James Knott wrote:
Carl William Spitzer IV wrote:
On Sat, 2004-06-19 at 18:01, Doug McGarrett wrote:
I found that everything that worked in WFWG worked in Win 95, but not all worked in Win 98. If you have a win 95 machine, try some of those apps. Even Win 95 was a lot more stable than WFWG.
interesting my experience diverges from yours I can and do blowup 98 easier tha Win311. Likely If I could afford to play with the more recent ones I could crash them as well.
I used to support users, who had that special "talent". ;-)
With windows its just a nack. You type so fast and demand so much by way of online activity the machine slows and then locks or gets blue in the face. CWSIV
* Billie Walsh
On Fri, 2004-06-18 at 12:32, Billie Walsh wrote:
Sid Boyce:
Had a chance to look over rute and it looks like it might be what I needed. Thanks
Mike McMullin:
Downloaded and unpacked Winetools. Now it just sits there. SuSE doesn't seem to know what it is. Says "Unknown File Type". *<[:o(
When you look at the directory with winetools unpacked in it, doe you see a gear icon above the file name? What is the filename? For the version I have it just says winetools I'm running version 1.24. This unpacked as an executable file, if your's is not an executable you need to make it so. Open up a terminal and change to the directory that the file is on, input ls -l, and look to see if there are any x's in the attributes, and who owns the file. The file owner must change the permissions. Not the best security but you can use a brute force chmod +x to make it executable. Then while you are still in the console enter ./winetools. The winetools window should open up for you. You can move this file to a directory in your path for easier access. Mike -- hope this helps
participants (7)
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Billie Walsh
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Carl William Spitzer IV
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Doug McGarrett
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James Knott
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Mike McMullin
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Patrick Shanahan
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Sid Boyce