For broadband users.........VERY nice improvement! Fred http://thelinuxbox.org/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1104676550&archive=&start_from=&ucat=3& -- The only bug free software from MickySoft is still shrink-wrapped in their warehouse..."
On 05/01/05 05:07 AM, Fred A. Miller
For broadband users.........VERY nice improvement!
Fred
http://thelinuxbox.org/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1104676550&archive=&start_from=&ucat=3&
It maybe very nice, but its rather impolite to the person who's webserver your visiting, not to mention anyone else trying to visit the site. By default Apache is set to cutoff after 100 requests for a page, with you alone making 30 at once your not only causing their webserver to take one heck of a hit you could also be blocking other visitors. The big sites should be able to handle this without a problem, so long as everyone doesnt start doing it, but its still very, very impolite.
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Ben Higginbottom wrote:
On 05/01/05 05:07 AM, Fred A. Miller
wrote: For broadband users.........VERY nice improvement!
Fred
http://thelinuxbox.org/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1104676550&archive=&start_from=&ucat=3&
It maybe very nice, but its rather impolite to the person who's webserver your visiting, not to mention anyone else trying to visit the site. By default Apache is set to cutoff after 100 requests for a page, with you alone making 30 at once your not only causing their webserver to take one heck of a hit you could also be blocking other visitors.
The big sites should be able to handle this without a problem, so long as everyone doesnt start doing it, but its still very, very impolite.
Uh, I think you are missing something. The total downloaded is the same,
it's just done with more in parallel. Regarding the Apache... 100
requests thing, that's *per page* - Firefix will still only make *one*
connection for each resource - it just fetches more than one resource at
a time. I don't see how this is any more or less polite, in any way
whatsoever, than doing them serially one at a time.
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Jon Nelson wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Ben Higginbottom wrote:
On 05/01/05 05:07 AM, Fred A. Miller
wrote: For broadband users.........VERY nice improvement!
Fred
http://thelinuxbox.org/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1104676550&archive=&start_from=&ucat=3&
It maybe very nice, but its rather impolite to the person who's webserver your visiting, not to mention anyone else trying to visit the site. By default Apache is set to cutoff after 100 requests for a page, with you alone making 30 at once your not only causing their webserver to take one heck of a hit you could also be blocking other visitors.
The big sites should be able to handle this without a problem, so long as everyone doesnt start doing it, but its still very, very impolite.
Uh, I think you are missing something. The total downloaded is the same, it's just done with more in parallel. Regarding the Apache... 100 requests thing, that's *per page* - Firefix will still only make *one* connection for each resource - it just fetches more than one resource at a time. I don't see how this is any more or less polite, in any way whatsoever, than doing them serially one at a time.
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Jon Nelson
Thank you Jon, that's exactly what I think! :-D Martin (Deppe)
Ben Higginbottom wrote:
On 05/01/05 05:07 AM, Fred A. Miller
wrote: For broadband users.........VERY nice improvement!
Fred
http://thelinuxbox.org/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1104676550&archive=&start_from=&ucat=3&
It maybe very nice, but its rather impolite to the person who's webserver your visiting, not to mention anyone else trying to visit the site. By default Apache is set to cutoff after 100 requests for a page, with you alone making 30 at once your not only causing their webserver to take one heck of a hit you could also be blocking other visitors.
The big sites should be able to handle this without a problem, so long as everyone doesnt start doing it, but its still very, very impolite.
I run many websites and I don't see it as being a problem. Apache would anyway split a page request into its constituent parts and serve them up as individual requests, all this is doing is getting the client to do it instead. To a certain extent, it will increase the load but that should only be a problem for a few servers who are running at a heavy load and couldn't handle any increase. cheers jalal -- GPG fingerprint = 3D45 5509 D380 26A4 523E A9D8 A66A 5F38 CA43 BB0E
On 05/01/05 05:56 PM, jalal
I run many websites and I don't see it as being a problem. Apache would anyway split a page request into its constituent parts and serve them up as individual requests, all this is doing is getting the client to do it instead. To a certain extent, it will increase the load but that should only be a problem for a few servers who are running at a heavy load and couldn't handle any increase.
True, as I said any commercial/major site should be able handle the extra load, but as our main webserver has been running at a constant load of 3+ for the last few months I've gotten a little 'twitchy' about things that'll fry it. Thankfully the new one should be here soon. Either way I see it as bad manners, if you want better preformance it should be you who pays for it, not someone else. Regards, Ben
Ben Higginbottom wrote:
On 05/01/05 05:56 PM, jalal
wrote: I run many websites and I don't see it as being a problem. Apache would anyway split a page request into its constituent parts and serve them up as individual requests, all this is doing is getting the client to do it instead. To a certain extent, it will increase the load but that should only be a problem for a few servers who are running at a heavy load and couldn't handle any increase.
True, as I said any commercial/major site should be able handle the extra load, but as our main webserver has been running at a constant load of 3+ for the last few months I've gotten a little 'twitchy' about things that'll fry it. Thankfully the new one should be here soon.
Either way I see it as bad manners, if you want better preformance it should be you who pays for it, not someone else.
Regards,
Ben
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Fred, On Tuesday 04 January 2005 21:07, Fred A. Miller wrote:
For broadband users.........VERY nice improvement!
Fred
http://thelinuxbox.org/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1104676550&arc hive=&start_from=&ucat=3&
I wonder if this feature is supported in Firefox. In the options dialog of Mozilla (Edit -> Options -> Advanced -> HTTP Networking), it's labelled an "experimental feature." The fact that you have to use the generic "about:config" interface to control it makes me doubt, a little, that it is mean for general consumption. Randall Schulz
This issue was just discussed on the mandrake list. Sorry, I didn't save the
thread. But, the solution centered around disabling IP6 forwarding and the
modprobe entries associated with it. This solved the firefox speed issue.
Konqueror wasn't helped though. Try googling it. It was in today's
discussions.
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Fred,
On Tuesday 04 January 2005 21:07, Fred A. Miller wrote:
For broadband users.........VERY nice improvement!
Fred
http://thelinuxbox.org/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1104676550&arc hive=&start_from=&ucat=3&
I wonder if this feature is supported in Firefox. In the options dialog of Mozilla (Edit -> Options -> Advanced -> HTTP Networking), it's labelled an "experimental feature." The fact that you have to use the generic "about:config" interface to control it makes me doubt, a little, that it is mean for general consumption.
Randall Schulz
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participants (8)
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Ben Higginbottom
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david rankin
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Fred A. Miller
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jalal
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Jon Nelson
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Marcos Vinicius Lazarini
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Martin Deppe
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Randall R Schulz