[S.u.S.E. Linux] xterm problem: unwanted highlighting in reverse video
I seem to have a problem with xterm in my new SuSE linux 5.2 installation that I can't solve. The problem is that when I run an xterm and use more/less, the first pageful of text is normal, and the second appears in reverse video. The reverse video disappears when I quit more/less and do "ls". This problem does not occur with rxvt. But I would like to be able to use xterm, so I've looked around for clues on the problem by reading the man pages and app-defaults for xterm and rxvt, looking at .Xresources, /etc/inputrc, etc., and reading the archives of the suse-linux-e list. Unfortunately, nothing I have tried seems to work. Can anyone suggest a clue or solution? Joan Bresnan - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
On 09-Aug-98 Joan Bresnan wrote:
I seem to have a problem with xterm in my new SuSE linux 5.2 installation that I can't solve. The problem is that when I run an xterm and use more/less, the first pageful of text is normal, and the second appears in reverse video. The reverse video disappears when I quit more/less and do "ls". This problem does not occur with rxvt. But I would like to be able to use xterm, so I've looked around for clues on the problem by reading the man pages and app-defaults for xterm and rxvt, looking at .Xresources, /etc/inputrc, etc., and reading the archives of the suse-linux-e list. Unfortunately, nothing I have tried seems to work.
Can anyone suggest a clue or solution?
I once hit a similar problem (when trying out a commercial X): going over the end of page in "less" put the whole xterm permanently in reverse video. I can only offer a pointer. The root of the problem lies in the effect that various escape sequences for terminal control have on the behaviour of xterm (and "less" uses excape sequences heavily). You need to be looking at /etc/termcap, and possibly at curses/ncurse, and at how your X (and xterm) use these. The mechanism in "less" is that the status-line at the bottom of the xterm is in reverse video, initiated by an escape sequence. Normally an escape sequence sent at the end of the status line should cancel reverse video. For some reason, this is not being properly responded to, and it stays in reverse video. If you can't solve the problem at the level of the basic reason, The normal (e.g. XF96_SVGA of XF86_VGA16) drivers in XFree86 should not cause this problem in S.u.S.E.-5.2, according to my experience with installing this. Are you using a special X driver? In your xterm, enter "echo $TERM". The response should be "xterm". If not, this might be the source of the trouble (though I've no idea how that situation might arise). If that is OK, check /etc/termcap for the "xterm" entry. Sorry I can't help more specifically. Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Date: 09-Aug-98 Time: 11:48:57 -------------------------------------------------------------------- - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
On 9 Aug, Joan Bresnan wrote:
I seem to have a problem with xterm in my new SuSE linux 5.2 installation that I can't solve. The problem is that when I run an xterm and use more/less, the first pageful of text is normal, and the second appears in reverse video. The reverse video disappears when I quit more/less and do "ls". This problem does not occur with rxvt. But I would like to be able to use xterm, so I've looked around for clues on the problem by reading the man pages and app-defaults for xterm and rxvt, looking at .Xresources, /etc/inputrc, etc., and reading the archives of the suse-linux-e list. Unfortunately, nothing I have tried seems to work.
I posted a question last week or so that was amazingly similar to this one. No one seemed to have the answer as to what is happening. I was trying to use mxterm, and getting the exact behavior as described above. I've since switched to rxvt since I could not find a solution, although I really prefer mxterm. The only clue I've found in the SuSE (5.2) manual is in the first section of Ch 11 (Special Features of SuSE Linux): "For unifying keyboard mapping of certain programs the following files had to be adaped: . . . These changes only apply to applications that make use of terminfo entries or change their configuration files (vi, less, etc.). Every "non" SuSE application should be adapted." No hints as to how to do that, though... -- Robert S. Mallozzi <A HREF="http://cspar.uah.edu/~mallozzir/"><A HREF="http://cspar.uah.edu/~mallozzir/</A">http://cspar.uah.edu/~mallozzir/</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Hi, On Sun, 9 Aug 1998, Joan Bresnan wrote:
I seem to have a problem with xterm in my new SuSE linux 5.2 installation that I can't solve. The problem is that when I run an xterm and use more/less, the first pageful of text is normal, and the second appears in reverse video. The reverse video disappears when I quit more/less and do "ls". This problem does not occur with rxvt. But I would like to be able to use xterm, so I've looked around for clues on the problem by reading the man pages and app-defaults for xterm and rxvt, looking at .Xresources, /etc/inputrc, etc., and reading the archives of the suse-linux-e list. Unfortunately, nothing I have tried seems to work.
Can anyone suggest a clue or solution?
Do you have this problem with every account? Please try: Create a sample user and check if the problem exists with the new account. If you only see the problem with an "old" user (the home has lived under previous installs) check for the existance of a .termcap directory in the users home and delete/rename it.
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I tried creating a new user, but the problem persists. There is no .termcap entry in the new user directory (or in mine). If I type "xterm -tn xterm-xi" or "xterm -tn xterm-xf86suse" the problem goes away, although I cannot get tset to work when I resize the xterm window (it says it does not recognize "xterm-xi", etc.). The only modifications I made in my installation were (i) installation of Accelerated X 4.1, (2) modification of the fonts as per a posting on this list (compressing with "compress" rather than gzip). Still a bit puzzled... Joan Bresnan
On Sun, 9 Aug 1998, Joan Bresnan wrote:
I seem to have a problem with xterm in my new SuSE linux 5.2 installation that I can't solve. The problem is that when I run an xterm and use more/less, the first pageful of text is normal, and the second appears in reverse video. The reverse video disappears when I quit more/less and do "ls". This problem does not occur with rxvt. But I would like to be able to use xterm, so I've looked around for clues on the problem by reading the man pages and app-defaults for xterm and rxvt, looking at .Xresources, /etc/inputrc, etc., and reading the archives of the suse-linux-e list. Unfortunately, nothing I have tried seems to work.
Can anyone suggest a clue or solution?
Do you have this problem with every account?
Please try: Create a sample user and check if the problem exists with the new account. If you only see the problem with an "old" user (the home has lived under previous installs) check for the existance of a .termcap directory in the users home and delete/rename it.
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I have the same problem. It started almost immediately after I installed Accelerated X 4.1. I don't have a solution other then to remove Accelerated X. You know it makes nonsense Jerome Krough Chemistry Dept. Louisiana State University An institution of medium learning. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Jerome Krough <jkrough@mindspring.com> wrote:
I have the same problem. It started almost immediately after I installed Accelerated X 4.1. I don't have a solution other then to remove Accelerated X.
I run AaccelX and don't have this problem. SuSE 5.2 - Matrox Millenium & AccelX. -Dee ---------------------------------- W.D.McKinney (Dee) deem@wdm.com No Claim to Fame, Saved by Grace ---------------------------------- - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Joan Bresnan <bresnan@csli.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
I tried creating a new user, but the problem persists. There is no .termcap entry in the new user directory (or in mine). If I type "xterm -tn xterm-xi" or "xterm -tn xterm-xf86suse" the problem goes away, although I cannot get tset to work when I resize the xterm window (it says it does not recognize "xterm-xi", etc.).
The only modifications I made in my installation were (i) installation of Accelerated X 4.1, (2) modification of the fonts as per a posting on this list (compressing with "compress" rather than gzip).
There is no need to update the fonts with 4.1 of AccelX, but you do with 3.1 of AccelX. -Dee ---------------------------------- W.D.McKinney (Dee) deem@wdm.com No Claim to Fame, Saved by Grace ---------------------------------- - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Hi, On Mon, 10 Aug 1998, Joan Bresnan wrote:
I tried creating a new user, but the problem persists. There is no .termcap entry in the new user directory (or in mine). If I type "xterm -tn xterm-xi" or "xterm -tn xterm-xf86suse" the problem goes away, although I cannot get tset to work when I resize the xterm window (it says it does not recognize "xterm-xi", etc.).
The only modifications I made in my installation were (i) installation of Accelerated X 4.1, (2) modification of the fonts as per a posting on this list (compressing with "compress" rather than gzip).
Please do a "rpm -V xf86". I bet Accelerated X is silently overwriting something in the system...
Still a bit puzzled...
Joan Bresnan
On Sun, 9 Aug 1998, Joan Bresnan wrote:
I seem to have a problem with xterm in my new SuSE linux 5.2 installation that I can't solve. The problem is that when I run an xterm and use more/less, the first pageful of text is normal, and the second appears in reverse video. The reverse video disappears when I quit more/less and do "ls". This problem does not occur with rxvt. But I would like to be able to use xterm, so I've looked around for clues on the problem by reading the man pages and app-defaults for xterm and rxvt, looking at .Xresources, /etc/inputrc, etc., and reading the archives of the suse-linux-e list. Unfortunately, nothing I have tried seems to work.
Can anyone suggest a clue or solution?
Do you have this problem with every account?
Please try: Create a sample user and check if the problem exists with the new account. If you only see the problem with an "old" user (the home has lived under previous installs) check for the existance of a .termcap directory in the users home and delete/rename it.
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I've been thinking about installing a SuSE distribution, and wanted to read the mailing lists for a bit first. Wanted to get a feel for the folks who post here. I know I'm new here, but I'd like to make a list suggestion... Reduce the size of the subject tag a lot. [S.u.S.E. Linux] is longer than needed, and for me anyway, it confuses the subjects. Wouldn't something like [SuSE] be good enough. I realize there are several lists, and they need to be distinguished, but even removing the periods would help, e.g. [SuSE Linux]. Cheers, Gary - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
On Tue, Aug 11, 1998 at 01:03:33PM -0600, Gary Hodges wrote:
suggestion... Reduce the size of the subject tag a lot. [S.u.S.E. Linux] is longer than needed, and for me anyway, it confuses the subjects.
Good suggestion. When reading my mail with mutt, very little room is left in the status bar to display the actual subject since the prefix takes so much space. -- Windows 98 supports real multitasking - it can boot and crash simultaneously ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Avi Schwartz to.avi@usa.net - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Hi, On Tue, 11 Aug 1998, Avi Schwartz wrote:
On Tue, Aug 11, 1998 at 01:03:33PM -0600, Gary Hodges wrote:
suggestion... Reduce the size of the subject tag a lot. [S.u.S.E. Linux] is longer than needed, and for me anyway, it confuses the subjects.
Good suggestion. When reading my mail with mutt, very little room is left in the status bar to display the actual subject since the prefix takes so much space.
Let procmail remove the tags: :0 * ^TO_suse-linux-e@suse.(de|com) { :0fh * ^Subject:[ ]*\[S\.u\.S\.E\. Linux\] | perl -pe 's/^subject:\s*\[S.u.S.E. Linux\]\s*(.*)/Subject: $1/i;' :0Efh * ^Subject:[ ]*Re:[ ]*\[S\.u\.S\.E\. Linux\] | perl -pe 's/^subject:\s*Re:\s*\[S.u.S.E. Linux\]\s*(.*)/Subject: Re: $1/i;' :0 : SUSE-LINUX-E }
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That's fine, for people like me that use procmail ( and who doesn't mind the current setup) but what about for those using some X thing to get their mail like netscape etc. On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Hubert Mantel wrote:
Let procmail remove the tags:
:0 * ^TO_suse-linux-e@suse.(de|com) { :0fh * ^Subject:[ ]*\[S\.u\.S\.E\. Linux\] | perl -pe 's/^subject:\s*\[S.u.S.E. Linux\]\s*(.*)/Subject: $1/i;'
:0Efh * ^Subject:[ ]*Re:[ ]*\[S\.u\.S\.E\. Linux\] | perl -pe 's/^subject:\s*Re:\s*\[S.u.S.E. Linux\]\s*(.*)/Subject: Re: $1/i;'
:0 : SUSE-LINUX-E }
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At 02:13 AM 08/12/98 +0200, Hubert Mantel wrote:
...stuff deleted for brevity...
Let procmail remove the tags:
...stuff deleted for brevity...
I am of the same opinion as the original poster; to reduce the banner so that more of the subject can be seen. Whilst, the procmail filters are helpful, each individual has to implement it. Perhaps, you could reconsider the request and implement it on the list server. Thx, Arun Khan - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Hi, On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Arun K. Khan wrote:
At 02:13 AM 08/12/98 +0200, Hubert Mantel wrote:
...stuff deleted for brevity...
Let procmail remove the tags:
...stuff deleted for brevity...
I am of the same opinion as the original poster; to reduce the banner so that more of the subject can be seen. Whilst, the procmail filters are helpful, each individual has to implement it.
Perhaps, you could reconsider the request and implement it on the list server.
You need to convince Bodo, not me. He is the maintainer of the list ;-) If there are more people that want the tags removed than people wanting to have them, I'm sure Bodo will do so.
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On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Hubert Mantel wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Arun K. Khan wrote:
Perhaps, you could reconsider the request and implement it on the list server.
You need to convince Bodo, not me. He is the maintainer of the list ;-)
If there are more people that want the tags removed than people wanting to have them, I'm sure Bodo will do so.
I think having the tags are useful to many, so I wouldn't suggest removing them altogether, but shortening them would improve the list IMO. At the very least, removing the periods would help. Currently I'm subscribed to the this and the announce lists. My humble suggestions for new tags would be: This list -> [SuSE] Announce -> [SuSE Announce] Doesn't matter if the announce tag is still long since there are so few from that list anyway. Plus, I think we want posts from that list to be obvious. Cheers, Gary - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
On Wed, Aug 12, Gary Hodges wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Hubert Mantel wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Arun K. Khan wrote:
Perhaps, you could reconsider the request and implement it on the list server.
You need to convince Bodo, not me. He is the maintainer of the list ;-)
If there are more people that want the tags removed than people wanting to have them, I'm sure Bodo will do so.
I think having the tags are useful to many, so I wouldn't suggest removing them altogether, but shortening them would improve the list IMO. At the very least, removing the periods would help. Currently I'm subscribed to the this and the announce lists. My humble suggestions for new tags would be:
This list -> [SuSE] Announce -> [SuSE Announce]
Doesn't matter if the announce tag is still long since there are so few from that list anyway. Plus, I think we want posts from that list to be obvious.
I like the header how they are. You know, we have lots of mailing lists, and I (like others) am subscribed to more than one or two. So it's fine to see in the subject line where the mail comes from. I am on other lists too, which don't have a subject like this, and I hate it... Removing the dots would be OK for me, but this is the company name, I don;t know how the management thinks about misspelling of S.u.S.E., Hubert? Ciao, BB PS: Hubert's procmail works for Netscpae users too! -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., Inc fon +1-510-835 7873 bb@suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Um. My two cents is I agree. I like it as it is. Some lists I belong to don't have visible means of distinguishment. ( the E list is an example of this) I usually read S.u.S.E and kernel first, when I fetch mail in the morn ( I typicaly have about 200 messages in the morning) and like to have it CLEAR and DISTINCT what's what, so I can scan my mailbox quickly and pick the stuff I like to look at first. On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Bodo Bauer wrote:
I like the header how they are. You know, we have lots of mailing lists, and I (like others) am subscribed to more than one or two. So it's fine to see in the subject line where the mail comes from. I am on other lists too, which don't have a subject like this, and I hate it...
Removing the dots would be OK for me, but this is the company name, I don;t know how the management thinks about misspelling of S.u.S.E., Hubert?
Ciao, BB
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Hi! Trying to kill the keyboard, hades@intergate.bc.ca produced: [Remove the tag [S.u.S.E. Linux]?]
messages in the morning) and like to have it CLEAR and DISTINCT what's what, so I can scan my mailbox quickly and pick the stuff I like to look at first.
I solved it the following way: All mail is being sorted by procmail into different folders. Especially each mailing list gets one folder for itself (ID'd via ^TO or Sender: or X-Mailinglist: ). Since Mutt can handle more than one folder with ease (mailboxes =inbox =folder1 =folder2 ...) it is no problem here and I don't need that tag. Works for me, but that means ... nothing :-) -Wolfgang -- PGP 2 welcome: Mail me, subject "send PGP-key". If you've nothing at all to hide, you must be boring. Unsolicited Bulk E-Mails: *You* pay for ads you never wanted. Is our economy _so_ weak we have to tolerate SPAMMERS? I guess not. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
You're right, of course. I think they were also right to just remove the periods. I just have been a bit lazy and just dump most of it into one big pile and then sift through it. That's a bit assbackwards I know so don't tell me. WELCOME BACK. :-) Now if only Michael Lankton would start posting again....:-) On Fri, 14 Aug 1998, Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:
All mail is being sorted by procmail into different folders. Especially each mailing list gets one folder for itself (ID'd via ^TO or Sender: or X-Mailinglist: ). Since Mutt can handle more than one folder with ease (mailboxes =inbox =folder1 =folder2 ...) it is no problem here and I don't need that tag.
Works for me, but that means ... nothing :-)
-Wolfgang
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huh? How is that? Do you run fetchmail first with procmail involved and then use Netscape to view the mail AFTERWARDS in X? If so, I meant for people that use NS to _get_ the mail. ( P.S.S. Pardon my ignorance, on this. I'm a console guy and almost never use Netscape.) On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Bodo Bauer wrote:
PS: Hubert's procmail works for Netscpae users too! -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., Inc fon +1-510-835 7873 bb@suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
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Bodo Bauer wrote:
On Wed, Aug 12, Gary Hodges wrote:
[....]
This list -> [SuSE] Announce -> [SuSE Announce]
Doesn't matter if the announce tag is still long since there are so few from that list anyway. Plus, I think we want posts from that list to be obvious.
I like the header how they are. You know, we have lots of mailing lists, and I (like others) am subscribed to more than one or two. So it's fine to see in the subject line where the mail comes from. I am on other lists too, which don't have a subject like this, and I hate it...
I would also prefer if the header read simply [SuSE], however I've sunk into the pit of using Netscape 4.5-pre1 for mail, and have simply set up filters and folders to sort the SuSE listserv's I subscribe to. Seems to work OK and I ignore the header-intro stuff since it's all in one folder (they all look alike!) My $0.015 worth... andy -- Sandy Seeds 100% Microsoft Free S.u.S.E. Linux! - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Hi, On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Bodo Bauer wrote:
Removing the dots would be OK for me, but this is the company name, I don;t know how the management thinks about misspelling of S.u.S.E., Hubert?
;-) Removing the dots would in fact misspell the company's name, but I realize the space can be used for more important things like subjects and so on... Anyway, most people are too lazy to type the dots. So just do it (btw, Roland will be happy to see the dots vanish ;-)
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On Thu, Aug 13, Hubert Mantel wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Bodo Bauer wrote:
Removing the dots would be OK for me, but this is the company name, I don;t know how the management thinks about misspelling of S.u.S.E., Hubert?
;-)
Removing the dots would in fact misspell the company's name, but I realize the space can be used for more important things like subjects and so on... Anyway, most people are too lazy to type the dots.
So just do it (btw, Roland will be happy to see the dots vanish ;-)
Look at the subject line :^) BB -- Bodo Bauer S.u.S.E., Inc fon +1-510-835 7873 bb@suse.de 458 Santa Clara Avenue fax +1-510-835 7875 <A HREF="http://www.suse.com"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com</A">http://www.suse.com</A</A>> Oakland CA, 94610 USA - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
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