Suse 9.3 which repositories effectively replace the old apt repositories?
Hi All, I need to use the Nortel (Apani) vpn client to connect to the development network at my work site. The last version of Suse that Apani supports is Suse 9.3 (Kernel 2.6.11-xxx). So I have a need to create a Suse Linux 9.3 install with a fairly recent software load to test a Ajax / Java / Flash nightmare at work. So after much reading I discovered that apt is being replaced by "yum" or "smart" (and "yast" for Suse 10.x) -- at least as far as using those services to install a more recent KDE with. Unfortunately I cannot seem to discover which repositories will meet my needs. I'm looking for guidance on which repository (ies?) to use to answer the following needs as expressing in question format: 1) Can I use the KDE "Backports" with the "KDE:" repository? If not, does "KDE:" contain koffice (esp. rekall, knoda, kxmleditor) already? I'm asking because there is no kdeoffice, rekall or similar packages in the "KDE:" directory tree for Suse 9.3 but these packages are in the "Backports" repositories? This is probably my core question as I can simply mirror the correct repository and use apt-server to merge the recent KDE back into the familiar apt architecture if the below questions do not have positive answers ;> 2) Which Repository contains the base system and security updates? 3) Where can I find the most recent version of OpenOffice (2.0.3)? 4) Where can I find the most recent version of the various Mozilla software (Firefox, Thunderbird, Seamonkey, Venkman, Dom inspector)? 5) Where can I find Samba3? 6) Where can I find the suser-guru repository? I appreciate any help you all can provide! Sam Stern Grand Island, New York, USA
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 15:24, Sam Stern wrote:
I appreciate any help you all can provide!
Hi Sam Following is a list of my 10.0 installation sources as they're defined in YaST's 'Installation Source' module. I think 9.3 is the same for most excepting you'd substitute '9.3' for '10.0'. In any case, it's easy enough to browse there in Konqueror and verify the paths. Notes: a) KDE 'Supplementary' may have been relocated. I set it up quite some time ago and can't remember now if/where it's been moved to :-) b) the base apt repositories directory I 'hunt and peck' through for individual packages is here: ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE c) for reference, below my list of 10.0 installation sources is a copy of my 9.3 apt sources.list, but you should also check <http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/> for the apt client installation script. hth & regards, Carl 'Installation Sources': protocol: http server: packman.rsync.zmi.at directory: suse/10.0 protocol: http server: ftp4.gwdg.de directory: pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/10.0/ protocol: ftp server: ftp4.gwdg.de directory: pub/suse/i386/10.0/inst-source-extra protocol: ftp server: ftp4.gwdg.de directory: pub/suse/i386/10.0/SUSE-Linux10.0-GM-Extra protocol: ftp server: ftp4.gwdg.de directory: pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_10.0/yast-source protocol: ftp server: ftp4.gwdg.de directory: pub/suse/i386/supplementary/GNOME/update_for_10.0/yast-source protocol: ftp server: ftp4.gwdg.de directory: pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source protocol: ftp server: ftp4.gwdg.de directory: pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS/inst-source-java ===== # Safe sources.list file generated by install-apt4suse at Thu Aug 11 19:42:41 EDT 2005 # You can manage the components that appear in this file by editing # UNWANTED_COMPONENTS in the file /etc/install-apt4rpm.conf. # Don't edit this variable unless you know what you do !!! # This file is based on the content of the full components list file: # ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/9.3-i386/examples/sources.list.FTP # Don't remove the following line. # DEFAULT_MIRROR = ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt # Repository created by: aptate (version 0.69.2) # At: Thu Aug 11 21:58:15 MEST 2005 # More info about aptate at: http://apt4rpm.sourceforge.net rpm ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.3-i386 kde rpm ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.3-i386 base rpm ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.3-i386 update rpm ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.3-i386 gnome rpm ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.3-i386 suser-rbos rpm ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.3-i386 packman rpm ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.3-i386 packman-i686 rpm ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.3-i386 suser-guru rpm ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/ SuSE/9.3-i386 security
-----Original Message----- From: Carl Hartung [mailto:suselinux@cehartung.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 07:44 PM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] Suse 9.3 which repositories effectively replace the old apt repositories?
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 15:24, Sam Stern wrote:
I appreciate any help you all can provide!
Hi Sam
Following is a list of my 10.0 installation sources as they're defined in YaST's 'Installation Source' module. I think 9.3 is the same for most excepting you'd substitute '9.3' for '10.0'. In any case, it's easy enough to browse there in Konqueror and verify the paths.
Notes: a) KDE 'Supplementary' may have been relocated. I set it up quite some time ago and can't remember now if/where it's been moved to :-)
b) the base apt repositories directory I 'hunt and peck' through for individual packages is here: ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE
c) for reference, below my list of 10.0 installation sources is a copy of my 9.3 apt sources.list, but you should also check <http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/> for the apt client installation script.
hth & regards,
Carl
Hi Carl, Thanks so much for you help. Unfortunately, the kde apt repository you are referencing to has been decommissioned and no longer exists at all. It's been replaced by an empty directory called "kde-unstable". Apt no longer gets new versions of kde, that directory on the server is empty It has been replaced by a yum/smart/yast repository. Please see: <ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/R EADME> ^^^ NB: this file has a bad link in it. See the link below for the kde repository location Given that apt no longer provides updated (or any) kde files, I'm trying to see if I can replace apt with yum. Yast on 9.3 does not work like yast does on 10.x and cannot use http://software.opensuse.org/download/KDE:/KDE3/ as an installation source. The existence of the new repositories is somewhat explained in previous threads regarding this matter and at: <http://en.opensuse.org/KDE_Team> Thanks anyhow ;< Sam S.
On Tuesday 22 August 2006 20:29, Sam Stern wrote:
Thanks so much for you help. Unfortunately, the kde apt repository you are referencing to has been decommissioned and no longer exists at all.
Have you checked kde.org? My understanding is the rpm packages hosted there are actually built at SUSE.
Yast on 9.3 does not work like yast does on 10.x and cannot use http://software.opensuse.org/download/KDE:/KDE3/ as an installation source.
Actually, 10.1 is the version where package/updates management changed. 9.3 package/update management works identically to 10.0 and it does uses the same repository format. Yes, KDE 'supplementary' *has* been moved... to where I don't know... but as I stated, above, it's worth checking kde.org. I've updated it in the past, manually via CLI using the program rpm, so I'm certain you can do this, too. ;-) FYI, I have all three versions installed in parallel on this system: 10.1 is in 'massage' mode pending complete resolution of the rug/zmd issues. 10.0 is my perfectly running and completely customized daily desktop system. 9.3, my former (equally customized) daily desktop, is booted weekly and kept current with respect to updates and maintained as my 'fallback' system. All three are running the same apps at the same versions and are linked to common data sets. regards, Carl
On 22/08/06 19:02, Carl Hartung wrote:
<snip>
Yast on 9.3 does not work like yast does on 10.x and cannot use
http://software.opensuse.org/download/KDE:/KDE3/ as
an installation source.
Actually, 10.1 is the version where package/updates management changed.
9.3 package/update management works identically to 10.0 and it does uses the same repository format.
I just tried to enter http://software.opensuse.org/download/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/SUSE_Linux_9.3/ as an installation source, which failed with a "no install source on media" error.
On Friday 25 August 2006 14:48, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
On 22/08/06 19:02, Carl Hartung wrote:
<snip>
Yast on 9.3 does not work like yast does on 10.x and cannot use
http://software.opensuse.org/download/KDE:/KDE3/ as
an installation source.
Actually, 10.1 is the version where package/updates management changed.
9.3 package/update management works identically to 10.0 and it does uses the same repository format.
I just tried to enter http://software.opensuse.org/download/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/SUSE_Linux_9.3 / as an installation source, which failed with a "no install source on media" error.
Hi Darryl, Did you miss the announcements on SLE and opensuse regarding the KDE 'supplementary' sources? The metadata and links comprising those sources have been moved and reformatted to meet the requirements of >=10.1, so they're no longer compatible with <=10.0. That's why I didn't include a separate KDE source in the list I responded with. regards, Carl
On 25/08/06 14:09, Carl Hartung wrote:
<snip> Did you miss the announcements on SLE and opensuse regarding the KDE 'supplementary' sources? The metadata and links comprising those sources have been moved and reformatted to meet the requirements of >=10.1, so they're no longer compatible with <=10.0. That's why I didn't include a separate KDE source in the list I responded with. Sorry, I either misread what you were saying or missed something that you said (probably the latter).
Rhetorical question for anyone not from SUSE/Novell: what earthly good is served by a repository (in fact, a whole system of repositories) that are completely inaccessible to automated update/installation systems provided with the OS? Perhaps I am not missing much, though. Looking at all the repositories there are at software.opensuse.org/download, I would have to add a very large number of installation sources if I wanted to update my system to newer software versions. Perhaps this is SUSE's way of suggesting that they prefer everyone should only update the original versions from the updates trees.
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