[opensuse] Burned dual-layer dvd's play terrible - what's the trick?
Guys, I resisted, but I've finally moved into the early 21st century and bought a Plextor dual layer burner. From what I can tell, software/hardware wise, everything is fine, but the resulting dual-layer discs burned from movie .iso files play terribly/don't really play (jitter, sound chop, etc..) on my normal home audio dvd players. I researched before buying media and found the Verbatim +R DL 8X (Silver w/Blue/Purple media side) were among the most reliable for .iso replication. I have also read these too suffer hit and miss performance on burns. (the QA issue when Verbatim moved manufacturing from Singapore to India). I used k3b to burn. I also tested image creation using both dd and k3b and both the resulting images were the same. Err, so what's the issue? Are you really just limited to a 40% success rate in burning from .iso, or is there something that I'm overlooking? Seems straight forward enough, (a) create the .iso, (b) burn it back, but so far I end up with the same result. (tried on multiple players) What's the trick to minimize coasters? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/7/2011 11:00 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:
Guys,
I resisted, but I've finally moved into the early 21st century and bought a Plextor dual layer burner. From what I can tell, software/hardware wise, everything is fine, but the resulting dual-layer discs burned from movie .iso files play terribly/don't really play (jitter, sound chop, etc..) on my normal home audio dvd players. I researched before buying media and found the Verbatim +R DL 8X (Silver w/Blue/Purple media side) were among the most reliable for .iso replication. I have also read these too suffer hit and miss performance on burns. (the QA issue when Verbatim moved manufacturing from Singapore to India).
I used k3b to burn. I also tested image creation using both dd and k3b and both the resulting images were the same.
Err, so what's the issue? Are you really just limited to a 40% success rate in burning from .iso, or is there something that I'm overlooking? Seems straight forward enough, (a) create the .iso, (b) burn it back, but so far I end up with the same result. (tried on multiple players)
What's the trick to minimize coasters?
Some time ago I did a lot of research on this as well, and purchased a good supply of what were recommended as the best at that time. (TYG02 Taiyo Yuden). Single layer, in this case. Note that brand name is not as important as actual manufacturer. So far I haven't had any failures on these disks but have had other brands fail in exactly the way you mention. Burning at a lower speed than the recommended advertised maximum is my best recommendation. I found I could get good burns even on the crappy brands by slowing down to half the rated speed of the media, or just one notch below the max. Also DVD -R have historically been more reliable than the +R disks, but this has changed over time, and now I believe the +R disks are the way to go. -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 2:33 PM, John Andersen <jsamyth@gmail.com> wrote:
Some time ago I did a lot of research on this as well, and purchased a good supply of what were recommended as the best at that time. (TYG02 Taiyo Yuden). Single layer, in this case. Note that brand name is not as important as actual manufacturer.
I did the same research 2 or 3 years ago. At that time Taiyo Yuden did not make any dual-layer media, which left you with a poor selection of manufacturers to choose from. We never got better than a 50% burn rate if we were writing to the second layer. That is the dual layer media worked fine if you only wrote to the first layer, but it was a very poor success rate once you started writing to the second layer. And the more you wrote, the worse the success rate. ie./ writing 5GB used less of the second layer than a 8GB iso, so the 5GB was more likely to succeed. I haven't tried a dual layer in a couple years, so I don't know how the work now. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Guys,
I resisted, but I've finally moved into the early 21st century and bought a Plextor dual layer burner. From what I can tell, software/hardware wise, everything is fine, but the resulting dual-layer discs burned from movie .iso files play terribly/don't really play (jitter, sound chop, etc..) on my normal home audio dvd players. I researched before buying media and found the Verbatim +R DL 8X (Silver w/Blue/Purple media side) were among the most reliable for .iso replication. I have also read these too suffer hit and miss performance on burns. (the QA issue when Verbatim moved manufacturing from Singapore to India).
I used k3b to burn. I also tested image creation using both dd and k3b and both the resulting images were the same.
Err, so what's the issue? Are you really just limited to a 40% success rate in burning from .iso, or is there something that I'm overlooking? Seems straight forward enough, (a) create the .iso, (b) burn it back, but so far I end up with the same result. (tried on multiple players)
What's the trick to minimize coasters?
I've used Verbatim CD, DVD +R, and DVD +R DL for quite some time, and have had a very high burn rate. Always using k3b. And good results on any of my players. I presume you've verified the .iso's have no problems, playing on your system before burning? I have on occasion had issues such as jittering with rips off of source DVD's that play fine, no matter which tool, codec, format, or container I tried. IME, and since I also use quality media, the issues I've had have been with the burner. I currently have an NEC, Asus, LG, and Samsung. The Samsung and NEC perform very well, but the LG repeatedly gives me fits, especially on DL. (The Asus is still too new to judge.) Like the others, the LG was highly recommended - so there are lemons even with a quality model. The problem could be the media, but I would want to try another burner. My $.02 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/07/2011 02:02 PM, Dennis Gallien wrote: <snip>
What's the trick to minimize coasters?
I've used Verbatim CD, DVD +R, and DVD +R DL for quite some time, and have had a very high burn rate. Always using k3b. And good results on any of my players.
I presume you've verified the .iso's have no problems, playing on your system before burning? I have on occasion had issues such as jittering with rips off of source DVD's that play fine, no matter which tool, codec, format, or container I tried.
IME, and since I also use quality media, the issues I've had have been with the burner. I currently have an NEC, Asus, LG, and Samsung. The Samsung and NEC perform very well, but the LG repeatedly gives me fits, especially on DL. (The Asus is still too new to judge.) Like the others, the LG was highly recommended - so there are lemons even with a quality model. The problem could be the media, but I would want to try another burner.
My $.02
JA, that was it... Dennis, Greg, thanks. It was my fault. It was an idiot moment on my part. Apparently, I burned the .iso that I extracted with dd. Which would explain the video chop and skip. (duh... after dd I would still need to mount -o loop and decrypt :) I just burned the one I extracted with k3b - works fine. Lesson - always keep your .iso names straight :) As for burners go, I have always had great results from Plextor models as well as NEC. For that matter, I haven't really had bad luck with any. Thanks again for all your help! -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/07/2011 02:00 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
Guys,
I resisted, but I've finally moved into the early 21st century and bought a Plextor dual layer burner. From what I can tell, software/hardware wise, everything is fine, but the resulting dual-layer discs burned from movie .iso files play terribly/don't really play (jitter, sound chop, etc..) on my normal home audio dvd players. I researched before buying media and found the Verbatim +R DL 8X (Silver w/Blue/Purple media side) were among the most reliable for .iso replication. I have also read these too suffer hit and miss performance on burns. (the QA issue when Verbatim moved manufacturing from Singapore to India).
I used k3b to burn. I also tested image creation using both dd and k3b and both the resulting images were the same.
Err, so what's the issue? Are you really just limited to a 40% success rate in burning from .iso, or is there something that I'm overlooking? Seems straight forward enough, (a) create the .iso, (b) burn it back, but so far I end up with the same result. (tried on multiple players)
What's the trick to minimize coasters?
If blu-ray is like CDs, then maybe the trick is to burn at a slower rate. Just to be on the safe side, try to burn one at the slowest rate your software will allow, and see what happens. --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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