[opensuse] Grey Streets: a Good Idea?
Hi Folks, Just to stir things up, I'll forward a quote from Los Angeles mayor Eric Garcetti: "Climate change is a fact of life that people in Los Angeles and cities around the world live with every day. It is a grave threat to our health, our environment, and our economy — and it is not debatable or negotiable," I wonder what exactly this "fact of life" is? Not debatable? Sounds like an article of faith, doesn't it? So to fight the evil of climate change, Los Angeles has embarked on a program to paint all their city streets grey. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/04/10/los-angeles-painting-city-streets-white... I'm sure that grey streets will lower their surface temperature a bit, won't it just bounce the sun's heat up into the air again? Only to be trapped and redirected down again by the CO2? Oh, don't worry, it's not too expensive. LA has about 6,500-miles of non-freeway streets, and at $40,000/mile for the coating, will only cost $260,000,000-US. It's a real deal and only needs to be reapplied every seven years. That would mean that you'd have to apply 77.3-miles of coating per month, or assuming a standard work-year, about .5-miles per hour, to keep the coating fresh and functional on all 6,500-miles of streets. Note that the cost doesn't include installation labor, I wonder how many men would be fully employed and at what cost to keep this going? All that being said, it looks like a cool product. The photos on the company's website look nice, I wonder how long it really lasts before flaking off and running down the storm drains, then to pollute the oceans? Regards, Lew -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2018-04-15 05:25, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
Hi Folks,
Just to stir things up, I'll forward a quote from Los Angeles mayor Eric Garcetti:
Please ignore this post, he made a mistake in the address. It was intended for opensuse-offtopic@opensuse.org -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
On 15/04/18 05:33, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-04-15 05:25, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
Hi Folks,
Just to stir things up, I'll forward a quote from Los Angeles mayor Eric Garcetti:
Please ignore this post, he made a mistake in the address. It was intended for opensuse-offtopic@opensuse.org
Imho, this is actually a perfect example of what's wrong with off-topic lists (in general, SUSE in particular). I *don't* want to read that sort of stuff, that's deliberately started and controversial and nothing to do with the topic. But threads on the on-topic list sometimes go feral, and usually if they start on-topic, they remain to some extent on-topic. Feral threads, okay. But off-topic attracts flame-bait, no thanks. Cheers, Wol -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 04/15/2018 02:52 AM, Wols Lists wrote:
On 15/04/18 05:33, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2018-04-15 05:25, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
Hi Folks,
Just to stir things up, I'll forward a quote from Los Angeles mayor Eric Garcetti:
Please ignore this post, he made a mistake in the address. It was intended for opensuse-offtopic@opensuse.org
Imho, this is actually a perfect example of what's wrong with off-topic lists (in general, SUSE in particular). I *don't* want to read that sort of stuff, that's deliberately started and controversial and nothing to do with the topic.
But threads on the on-topic list sometimes go feral, and usually if they start on-topic, they remain to some extent on-topic.
Feral threads, okay. But off-topic attracts flame-bait, no thanks.
Cheers, Wol
I definitely agree with you, here. In addition, it is quite Political, which is against our Guiding Principles for openSUSE communication channels, IMHO. -- -Gerry Makaro openSUSE Member openSUSE Forum Moderator openSUSE Contributor aka Fraser_Bell on the Forums, OBS, IRC, and mail at openSUSE.org Fraser-Bell on Github -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Fraser_Bell wrote:
In addition, it is quite Political, which is against our Guiding Principles for openSUSE communication channels, IMHO.
While climate change might be political, it seems the question here was about whether or not painting streets 'white' (according to headline) would help with not capturing heat. I'd think that more a physics question, though perhaps still OT for this list. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 04/15/2018 03:10 PM, Fraser_Bell wrote:
Imho, this is actually a perfect example of what's wrong with off-topic lists (in general, SUSE in particular). I *don't* want to read that sort of stuff, that's deliberately started and controversial and nothing to do with the topic.
But threads on the on-topic list sometimes go feral, and usually if they start on-topic, they remain to some extent on-topic.
Feral threads, okay. But off-topic attracts flame-bait, no thanks.
Cheers, Wol
I definitely agree with you, here.
In addition, it is quite Political, which is against our Guiding Principles for openSUSE communication channels, IMHO.
It reflects a lot of what is wrong with society today. The calculated dissemination of misinformation. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 04/14/2018 08:25 PM, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
Hi Folks,
Just to stir things up, I'll forward a quote from Los Angeles mayor Eric Garcetti:
My apologies, I didn't intend to send this here. Regards, Lew -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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