RE: [SLE] Replacing Windows with Linux in a School (Help and Suggestions Appreci
Hi Im in a similar situation. I work in a school in the UK and we are looking at switching from Windows to Linux. I already have a couple of SuSE boxen kicking around doing things like DHCP but we are looking at migrating our NT servers to nix over the summer, and possibly setting up some low-end (P75) classroom machines as thin clients. One of the biggest problems I am facing is teacher training. I have some teachers who think, for example, that you _NEED_ Photoshop to be able to scan, and nothing else will work. It has been suggested to me that I can install Cygwin on the Windows machines and use this to connect to Linux systems. Isnt Cygwin made by Red Hat? Will it work with SuSE? Thanks Geoff Snowdon Hall Garth School
Cygwin is a set of GNU compatibility libraries for Win32 - it allows you to compile [some] UN*X programs for Windows (for example, the AbiWord builds for Windows are built with Cygwin) It was developed originally by Cygnus Inc, who were then bought by Red Hat. It's *not* used for what you're suggesting, except that you can build XFree86 using it, which you can then use to make an XDMCP connection to a UN*X box. Doing that will allow you to talk to any boxen that talks XDMCP - Red Hat, SuSE, Solaris, AIX, you name it...
It has been suggested to me that I can install Cygwin on the Windows machines and use this to connect to Linux systems. Isnt Cygwin made by Red Hat? Will it work with SuSE? -- James Ogley, Unix Systems Administrator, Pinnacle Insurance Plc james.ogley@pinnacle.co.uk www.pinnacle.co.uk +44 (0) 20 8731 3619 Using Free Software since 1994, running GNU/Linux (SuSE 8.0) Updated GNOME RPMs for SuSE Linux: www.usr-local-bin.org
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I have CGWIN installed on my Windows2K desktop here. I don't really like it, but it connects to my laptop. On 23 May 2002 at 9:15, gs@hallgarth.middlesbrough.sc wrote:
Hi
Im in a similar situation. I work in a school in the UK and we are looking at switching from Windows to Linux. I already have a couple of SuSE boxen kicking around doing things like DHCP but we are looking at migrating our NT servers to nix over the summer, and possibly setting up some low- end (P75) classroom machines as thin clients.
One of the biggest problems I am facing is teacher training. I have some teachers who think, for example, that you _NEED_ Photoshop to be able to scan, and nothing else will work.
It has been suggested to me that I can install Cygwin on the Windows machines and use this to connect to Linux systems. Isnt Cygwin made by Red Hat? Will it work with SuSE?
Thanks
Geoff Snowdon Hall Garth School
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I may be wrong,but I think Cygwin is not Linux, but some form of Unix-- yes I know that they're almost the same--but also that Cygwin has no graphical interface, no GUI. It runs on a Windows platform, as a program. When you run it, you get a black terminal screen with white letters, like DOS or old-fashioned UNIX. What you really want, I think, is a real Linux that stands on its own, with a real GUI, probably KDE, or perhaps not, and modern keyboard/mouse interfaces. Maybe you can make X-Windows run on CygWin, but I didn't succeed. Also, it installs with no word processor (other than the old Unix character-based ones) and not even MC. --doug On Thursday 23 May 2002 05:15, gs@hallgarth.middlesbrough.sch.uk wrote:
Hi
Im in a similar situation. I work in a school in the UK and we are looking at switching from Windows to Linux. I already have a couple of SuSE boxen kicking around doing things like DHCP but we are looking at migrating our NT servers to nix over the summer, and possibly setting up some low-end (P75) classroom machines as thin clients.
One of the biggest problems I am facing is teacher training. I have some teachers who think, for example, that you _NEED_ Photoshop to be able to scan, and nothing else will work.
It has been suggested to me that I can install Cygwin on the Windows machines and use this to connect to Linux systems. Isnt Cygwin made by Red Hat? Will it work with SuSE?
Thanks
Geoff Snowdon Hall Garth School
Doug McGarrett wrote:
I may be wrong,but I think Cygwin is not Linux, but some form of Unix-- yes I know that they're almost the same--but also that Cygwin has no graphical interface, no GUI. It runs on a Windows platform, as a program. When you run it, you get a black terminal screen with white letters, like DOS or old-fashioned UNIX. What you really want, I think, is a real Linux that stands on its own, with a real GUI, probably KDE, or perhaps not, and modern keyboard/mouse interfaces. Maybe you can make X-Windows run on CygWin, but I didn't succeed. Also, it installs with no word processor (other than the old Unix character-based ones) and not even MC.
Not entirely accurate: CygWin is indeed by Red Hat, but it is not Linux. It's a Unix/Posix compatibility layer for Windows. The main icon you end up with on your desktop as a result of installing it does indeed open up a text console with a Bash prompt, but there's rather more to it than that. Part of the project is a port of XFree86, so yes, you can run GUI applications for X on Windows using that, either remotely, or actually running on the Windows box. A number of Linux/Unix gui applications have already been ported and will therefore run natively under Windows - using CygWin - eg: Nedit, LyX, there are more but I forget them. I only tend to use it to provide a remote X terminal to a nearby Linux application server. To give some idea what's achievable though, KDE itself is being ported across to run under CygWin. I do agree though, that a real Linux system is preferable. :-) -- Rachel
participants (5)
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Doug McGarrett
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gs@hallgarth.middlesbrough.sch.uk
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James Ogley
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Jerry Feldman
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Rachel Greenham