Solved Technical Problem for which I want more information: openSUSE 10.0 USB device installed after boot-up and mounted via HAL opens and is useable; however, the device does not show on the kicker panel by default, and when Safely Remove is clicked from the device icon within "my computer" kio_media_mounthelper gives the error message, "device not in fstab and/or you are not root". [some of this I got from the archive] First, the device icon can be placed in the kicker panel by default if the kde user first adds the applet "Storage Media" to the panel. This should be a default openSUSE setup option for kde (IMO). Second, the kio_media_mounthelper will "Safely Remove" the device [ unmount and eject ] if the following file is changed: /opt/kde3/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/media_safelyremove.desktop At the bottom of the file (see above) change the line 'Exec=kio_media_mounthelper -s %u' to read 'Exec=kio_media_mounthelper -e %u' The first does a umount [as root] from fstab ?? and the second does a kdeeject as the user... seems to work fine, problem solved. Now... what I am looking for is additional information about kio_media_mounthelper and kdeeject. The man page for kio_media_mounthelper says that the -s is needed for some usb devices.. but doesn't say which ones or why. And the kdeeject [ -e switch ] appears to umount and eject just fine... but I cannot find confirmation that it truly is doing a clean (sync) umount and an eject in a safe way... what I would really like to know is a definitive explanation for the two options? Also, does mounting the device from HAL without the sync option cause a problem for kdeeject? This is a useability issue that should be corrected--- and I would like to know if 10.2--on has fixed this? -- Kind regards, M Harris <>< -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org