[opensuse] Re: is avahi mandatory
Carlos E. R. a écrit :
When you uninstall something, before going ahead you should visit the "installation summary" filter. It shows the entire list of things to be installed and uninstalled.
this one should be presented systematically. Even apt-get uninstall gives a clue now :-)
Anyway, it is surprising how many things it uninstalls.
true :-) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-eic8MSSfM http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1412160445 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, 2009-01-11 at 22:29 +0100, jdd wrote:
Carlos E. R. a écrit :
When you uninstall something, before going ahead you should visit the "installation summary" filter. It shows the entire list of things to be installed and uninstalled.
this one should be presented systematically. Even apt-get uninstall gives a clue now :-)
You are root, you are the king. If you tell YaST to remove YaST, it just obeys. If you don't like that, fill an enhancement request ;-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAklqdYoACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UGCwCePdnJOLt2TlaTMH95DVtE/PUL LmoAnR3rNF23zzEhh/wuEQ8czIMI4uAA =Xv2s -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Sunday 11 January 2009 04:41:12 pm Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Sunday, 2009-01-11 at 22:29 +0100, jdd wrote:
Carlos E. R. a écrit :
When you uninstall something, before going ahead you should visit the "installation summary" filter. It shows the entire list of things to be installed and uninstalled.
this one should be presented systematically. Even apt-get uninstall gives a clue now :-)
You are root, you are the king. If you tell YaST to remove YaST, it just obeys.
If you don't like that, fill an enhancement request ;-)
It is a bug when so many packages depend on something like avahi. It is absolutely leaf package, good to have, but almost everyone can live without it. And, it may be YaST software management bug, or not implemented feature, if avahi is not hard requirement, but treated as such. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, 2009-01-11 at 17:22 -0600, Rajko M. wrote:
On Sunday 11 January 2009 04:41:12 pm Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Sunday, 2009-01-11 at 22:29 +0100, jdd wrote:
Carlos E. R. a écrit :
When you uninstall something, before going ahead you should visit the "installation summary" filter. It shows the entire list of things to be installed and uninstalled.
this one should be presented systematically. Even apt-get uninstall gives a clue now :-)
You are root, you are the king. If you tell YaST to remove YaST, it just obeys.
If you don't like that, fill an enhancement request ;-)
It is a bug when so many packages depend on something like avahi. It is absolutely leaf package, good to have, but almost everyone can live without it.
I meant that YaST does not warn if you are going to remove any core package, like for instance, YaST itself. That's the enhancement request i talked about. That many packages depend on avahi, has already been reported on bugzilla. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAklqjLIACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WWaQCfSqDrfuUl9dUdrUPppCC0t6t1 EDkAnRZcsDp5cEbXSrzrCDidm0lITQr2 =XCGw -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Carlos E. R. escribió:
That many packages depend on avahi, has already been reported on bugzilla.
whatever that links to packages that contains this files: libdns_sd.la libgda-3.0.la libgda-report-3.0.la libgdasql-3.0.la libgda-xslt-3.0.la libgnc-business-ledger.la libgnc-gnome.la libgnome-2.la libgnomedb-3.0.la libgnomedb_extra-3.0.la libgnomedb_graph-3.0.la libgnome-desktop-2.la libgnomevfs-2.la libgnome-window-settings.la libgoffice-0.8.la libgsf-gnome-1.la libhowl.la libpanel-applet-2.la libplanner-1.la libslab.la will depend more or less on avahi libraries... example.. package "foobar" uses libtool and it gets linked, it takes library information from libgnomevfs-2.la, because it requires libgnomevfs-2, but libgnomevfs-2.la also contains dependencies to usr/lib/libgconf-2.la /usr/lib/libORBit-2.la -lgmodule-2.0 -lgthread-2.0 /usr/lib/libxml2.la -lm /usr/lib/libdbus-glib-1.la -lnsl -lgobject-2.0 -lssl -lcrypto -lz /usr/lib/libavahi-glib.la -lglib-2.0 /usr/lib/libavahi-client.la -ldbus-1 /usr/lib/libavahi-common.la -ldl -lresolv -lutil -lrt' now "foobar" that required only libgnomevfs-2 ends requiring all that libraries, regardless if the are used or not.. even more all dependencies of the other referenced "*.la" files too !! this utter mess goes straight to the beggining again when "foobar" gets BuildRequired by other packages... argh! :( ...fixing this is a WIP though. -- "We have art in order not to die of the truth" - Friedrich Nietzsche Cristian Rodríguez R. Software Developer Platform/OpenSUSE - Core Services SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Research & Development http://www.opensuse.org/
On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 15:49 -0300, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
Carlos E. R. escribió:
That many packages depend on avahi, has already been reported on bugzilla.
usr/lib/libgconf-2.la /usr/lib/libORBit-2.la -lgmodule-2.0 -lgthread-2.0 /usr/lib/libxml2.la -lm /usr/lib/libdbus-glib-1.la -lnsl -lgobject-2.0 -lssl -lcrypto -lz /usr/lib/libavahi-glib.la -lglib-2.0 /usr/lib/libavahi-client.la -ldbus-1 /usr/lib/libavahi-common.la -ldl -lresolv -lutil -lrt'
-common and -client are libraries, not the daemon.
-JP
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JP Rosevear
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 05:22:56PM -0600, Rajko M. wrote:
On Sunday 11 January 2009 04:41:12 pm Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Sunday, 2009-01-11 at 22:29 +0100, jdd wrote:
Carlos E. R. a écrit :
When you uninstall something, before going ahead you should visit the "installation summary" filter. It shows the entire list of things to be installed and uninstalled.
this one should be presented systematically. Even apt-get uninstall gives a clue now :-)
You are root, you are the king. If you tell YaST to remove YaST, it just obeys.
If you don't like that, fill an enhancement request ;-)
It is a bug when so many packages depend on something like avahi. It is absolutely leaf package, good to have, but almost everyone can live without it.
And, it may be YaST software management bug, or not implemented feature, if avahi is not hard requirement, but treated as such.
The problem is that "libavahi.." requirs avahi the daemon. And libavahi is linked into various gnome stuff (didnt check closely enough, but I guess gnome-vfs), so it is in turn required by nearly all of gnome. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 09:07 +0100, Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 05:22:56PM -0600, Rajko M. wrote:
On Sunday 11 January 2009 04:41:12 pm Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Sunday, 2009-01-11 at 22:29 +0100, jdd wrote:
Carlos E. R. a écrit :
When you uninstall something, before going ahead you should visit the "installation summary" filter. It shows the entire list of things to be installed and uninstalled.
this one should be presented systematically. Even apt-get uninstall gives a clue now :-)
You are root, you are the king. If you tell YaST to remove YaST, it just obeys.
If you don't like that, fill an enhancement request ;-)
It is a bug when so many packages depend on something like avahi. It is absolutely leaf package, good to have, but almost everyone can live without it.
And, it may be YaST software management bug, or not implemented feature, if avahi is not hard requirement, but treated as such.
The problem is that "libavahi.." requirs avahi the daemon.
What are you basing this assertion on? 11.1 install:
jpr@linux-u9xk:~> sudo zypper rm avahi
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...
Resolving package dependencies...
The following packages are going to be REMOVED:
avahi banshee-1 banshee-1-backend-engine-gstreamer
banshee-1-backend-platform-gnome banshee-1-backend-platform-unix
banshee-1-extensions-default mono-zeroconf mono-zeroconf-provider-avahi
nss-mdns
nss-mdns-32bit
So it removes banshee avachi and nss-mdns (zeroconf dns resolution).
-JP
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JP Rosevear
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 08:45:39AM -0500, JP Rosevear wrote:
On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 09:07 +0100, Marcus Meissner wrote:
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 05:22:56PM -0600, Rajko M. wrote:
On Sunday 11 January 2009 04:41:12 pm Carlos E. R. wrote:
On Sunday, 2009-01-11 at 22:29 +0100, jdd wrote:
Carlos E. R. a écrit :
When you uninstall something, before going ahead you should visit the "installation summary" filter. It shows the entire list of things to be installed and uninstalled.
this one should be presented systematically. Even apt-get uninstall gives a clue now :-)
You are root, you are the king. If you tell YaST to remove YaST, it just obeys.
If you don't like that, fill an enhancement request ;-)
It is a bug when so many packages depend on something like avahi. It is absolutely leaf package, good to have, but almost everyone can live without it.
And, it may be YaST software management bug, or not implemented feature, if avahi is not hard requirement, but treated as such.
The problem is that "libavahi.." requirs avahi the daemon.
What are you basing this assertion on? 11.1 install:
Umm. I looked at 11.0. rpm -q --requires -p /work/CDs/all/full-11.0-i386/suse/i586/libavahi-common3.rpm avahi >= 0.6.22 ... Seems to be gone in 11.1. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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