Media mount failure when adding new installation source from DVD?
I have a SuSE 9.2 system here which was installed from official SuSE install pack ie the one with CD's and DVD's. I installed from the CD's as I did not have a DVD drive at that time. I rec'd a Linux Magazine DVD of SuSE 10.0, which I have already installed on another machine to dual boot with Win XP, so I can only assume the DVD is not faulty. On my SuSE 9.2 only machine I decided to see if there were updated packages on it for certain apps. 1. Yast->Change src of installation 2. Chose Add->DVD 3. Message comes up saying it is acquiring the src and the light flashes on CDROM and not on the DVD drive. 4. After a couple of seconds an error message appears saying "unable to create installation source from url dvd:/// ERROR(Media:mount failed) Try again <Y> <N> The number of times I have pressed <Y> to have the same result as otem 3 and 4 cannot be counted. Below are the entries from my fstab and both are identical. fstab: /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom subfs fs=cdfss,ro,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 0 /dev/dvdrecorder /media/dvdrecorder subfs fs=cdfss,ro,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 0 The DVD drive was detected by SuSEplugger when it was installed. The drive has not been bumped on even moved and is in a stationary desktop box. I can read the documentation on the DVD, and see there are other files, on the DVD if I go via the KDE 'My computer' on the desktop or via konqi to /media/dvedrecorder and yet I cannot mount the DVD to read the file containing the software index? DVD drive is a Liteon brand model: DVDROM R-DL and RW drive. More details I could probably get from the box although no model numbers seem to be specified. CD drive is also a Liteon however read only at 48x. CDROM was in the machine when 9.2 was installed DVDROM wasn't as it has only just been added. The DVD was setected by SuSEPlugger and installed as above. What am I missing to get this drive working before 10.1 is ordered and delivered?
Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
I have a SuSE 9.2 system here which was installed from official SuSE install pack ie the one with CD's and DVD's. I installed from the CD's as I did not have a DVD drive at that time.
I rec'd a Linux Magazine DVD of SuSE 10.0, which I have already installed on another machine to dual boot with Win XP, so I can only assume the DVD is not faulty.
On my SuSE 9.2 only machine I decided to see if there were updated packages on it for certain apps. 1. Yast->Change src of installation 2. Chose Add->DVD 3. Message comes up saying it is acquiring the src and the light flashes on CDROM and not on the DVD drive. 4. After a couple of seconds an error message appears saying "unable to create installation source from url dvd:/// ERROR(Media:mount failed) Try again <Y> <N>
The number of times I have pressed <Y> to have the same result as otem 3 and 4 cannot be counted.
Below are the entries from my fstab and both are identical.
fstab: /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom subfs fs=cdfss,ro,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 0 /dev/dvdrecorder /media/dvdrecorder subfs fs=cdfss,ro,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 0
The DVD drive was detected by SuSEplugger when it was installed. The drive has not been bumped on even moved and is in a stationary desktop box. I can read the documentation on the DVD, and see there are other files, on the DVD if I go via the KDE 'My computer' on the desktop or via konqi to /media/dvedrecorder and yet I cannot mount the DVD to read the file containing the software index?
DVD drive is a Liteon brand model: DVDROM R-DL and RW drive. More details I could probably get from the box although no model numbers seem to be specified. CD drive is also a Liteon however read only at 48x. CDROM was in the machine when 9.2 was installed DVDROM wasn't as it has only just been added. The DVD was setected by SuSEPlugger and installed as above.
What am I missing to get this drive working before 10.1 is ordered and delivered? What, no comments? I'll try and search the archives but online time is expensive.
Is it a 'feature' of 9.2 to do the above? Should I even worry about it?
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 06:30, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
What, no comments?
Hylton, This is just a guess, but maybe you need to put your SuSE 9.2 CD1 in the CD-ROM drive? Maybe the underlying script's default is to 'initialize' the existing installation sources before it will proceed to the part that allows you to make changes? Carl
Carl Hartung wrote:
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 06:30, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
What, no comments?
Hylton,
This is just a guess, but maybe you need to put your SuSE 9.2 CD1 in the CD-ROM drive? Maybe the underlying script's default is to 'initialize' the existing installation sources before it will proceed to the part that allows you to make changes? Carl,
I wouldn't have thought that inserting a CD would enable a DVD to be added as an installationa src, but I tried it anyway. I inserted CD1 into the CD-ROM and the DVD1 into the other optical drive(DVD R/RW). Then I chose to add a new source of installation (DVD). The activity light on te CD went 'crazy' as though it was adding the CD as a source and the DVD drive was silent. When I looked at the installation srcs I saw that know I had both a CD and DVD source for 9.2 and yet the DVD wasn't even accessed ie: Status Name URL On Suse Linux 9.2 cd:/// Pn Suse Linux 9.2 dvd:/// I disabled the CD source and then tried to install software. I recd the same error as before that the media couldn't be mounted and the DVD drive didn't blink. It would seem that there is a hardware mixup ie master/slave. I remember before I had the DVD installed that the CD-ROM was Secondary Master and Secondary Slave was blank. Post the DVD install I see that the DVD is Secondary Master and the CD is now Secondary Slave. Maybe the technician made sure te new DVD was jumpered to be master but he didn't change the CD-ROM from master to slave? Sound logical before I get into checking device links et al? I'll open the box tomorrow and have a look.
On 07/05/06 13:04, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
<snip>
DVD drive is a Liteon brand model: DVDROM R-DL and RW drive. More details I could probably get from the box although no model numbers seem to be specified. CD drive is also a Liteon however read only at 48x. CDROM was in the machine when 9.2 was installed DVDROM wasn't as it has only just been added. The DVD was setected by SuSEPlugger and installed as above.
What am I missing to get this drive working before 10.1 is ordered and delivered?
Check in Yast to see that the device links /dev/cdrom and /dev/dvdrecorder are to the proper real devices /dev/hd*. If you changed where the CD is connected when installing the DVD, the links might not have been properly modified. Carl's suggestion is also possibly the correct one, but if so would be (IMHO) a rather strange requirement. At least this isn't at all like <the operating system from Redmond>, where the install device's drive letter remains what it was when the installation was done, no matter what you do to give it a different drive letter (maybe they got this one figured out in the latest version, but that would surprise me).
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 19:18, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
Check in Yast to see that the device links /dev/cdrom and /dev/dvdrecorder are to the proper real devices /dev/hd*. If you changed where the CD is connected when installing the DVD, the links might not have been properly modified.
Hi Darryl, You must have missed this part of Hylton's post:
I can read the documentation on the DVD, and see there are other files, on the DVD if I go via the KDE 'My computer' on the desktop or via konqi to /media/dvedrecorder
And there's certainly nothing "strange" about mundane functions being supported by relatively unsophisticated code. From what I've seen of the 'Installation Source' module's limited/cryptic error handling capabilities, such an oversight wouldn't surprise me at all. ;-) regards, Carl
On 16/05/06 18:01, Carl Hartung wrote:
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 19:18, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
Check in Yast to see that the device links /dev/cdrom and /dev/dvdrecorder are to the proper real devices /dev/hd*. If you changed where the CD is connected when installing the DVD, the links might not have been properly modified.
Hi Darryl,
You must have missed this part of Hylton's post:
I can read the documentation on the DVD.... I was reading from the bottom :-[
On 17/05/06 01:00, Carl Hartung wrote:
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 02:53, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
I was reading from the bottom :-[
Now *that* is funny! Are you up late or early?
Never met anyone who gets a joke in an email, and reads the punchline first? :-)
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 02:53, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
I was reading from the bottom :-[
Now *that* is funny! Are you up late or early? I wonder if Darryl also reads the last message in a thread post before
Carl Hartung wrote: the first. At least that way he gets the solution before he knows the problem. :) Tnx Darryl, comments appreciated, in whatever order you want to read them.
On 18/05/06 07:14, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 02:53, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
I was reading from the bottom :-[
Now *that* is funny! Are you up late or early? I wonder if Darryl also reads the last message in a thread post before
Carl Hartung wrote: the first. At least that way he gets the solution before he knows the problem. :)
Hey, I never thought of that! Thanks for the suggestion!! 8-)
Darryl Gregorash wrote:
On 07/05/06 13:04, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
<snip>
DVD drive is a Liteon brand model: DVDROM R-DL and RW drive. More details I could probably get from the box although no model numbers seem to be specified. CD drive is also a Liteon however read only at 48x. CDROM was in the machine when 9.2 was installed DVDROM wasn't as it has only just been added. The DVD was setected by SuSEPlugger and installed as above.
What am I missing to get this drive working before 10.1 is ordered and delivered?
Check in Yast to see that the device links /dev/cdrom and /dev/dvdrecorder are to the proper real devices /dev/hd*. If you changed where the CD is connected when installing the DVD, the links might not have been properly modified. Name Device Link Mount point DVD /dev/hdc /dev/dvdrecorder /media/dvdrecorder CD /dev/hdd /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
Carl's suggestion is also possibly the correct one, but if so would be (IMHO) a rather strange requirement. I thought so too, but stranger things happen to the Redmond OS :) Do you think my theory on the hardware master slave settings has merit?
At least this isn't at all like <the operating system from Redmond>, where the install device's drive letter remains what it was when the installation was done, no matter what you do to give it a different drive letter (maybe they got this one figured out in the latest version, but that would surprise me). Me too.
On 18/05/06 07:09, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
Darryl Gregorash wrote:
Carl's suggestion is also possibly the correct one, but if so would be (IMHO) a rather strange requirement. I thought so too, but stranger things happen to the Redmond OS :) Do you think my theory on the hardware master slave settings has merit? Have you had a chance to check this? I would not expect it to be the case, though; in my experience, the best you can expect is that the BIOS will simply wind up ignoring that IDE port -- if it doesn't hang the system.
Personally, I would just delete the two devices in Yast, then reinstall them. That's always worked for me, whenever things start behaving strangely.
On 18/05/06 07:09, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
Darryl Gregorash wrote:
Carl's suggestion is also possibly the correct one, but if so would be (IMHO) a rather strange requirement.
I thought so too, but stranger things happen to the Redmond OS :) Do you think my theory on the hardware master slave settings has merit?
Have you had a chance to check this? I would not expect it to be the case, though; in my experience, the best you can expect is that the BIOS will simply wind up ignoring that IDE port -- if it doesn't hang the system. Yes, I checked and found that the master/slave settings were right and
Darryl Gregorash wrote: that the DVD power cable was a little loose. Tightened everything up again. Well both optical drives are on the same IDE channel, as they can be. The CDROM works fine but the DVD does not read from a DVD, even after delving into the box, but tries the CDROM when I add a new source from a DVD. I've got a feeling this is due to the BIOS as if I inspect the BIOS on boot, the Secondary Master is listed as Auto and the Secondary slave as CDROM. I cannot change the Auto to read DVD-ROM however if I just let the system boot the white grid that comes up before the bootloader detailing the hardware ie like a BIOS snapshot, lists the Secondary Master as a DVDRom and not as Auto as it is defined in the BIOS. I have an AMIBIOS SSU 1.24a and hope that there is an upgrade and that it is easy. I checked the file:/var/log/boot.msg and saw that the correct 'drive letters' of hdc and hdd are allocated to the correct items.
Personally, I would just delete the two devices in Yast, then reinstall them. That's always worked for me, whenever things start behaving strangely. mmm, I must admit I don't like the idea of deleting previously found/entered hardware, especially since the settings under Optical drives seem to be correct.
To delete the devices would I just need to go into Yast->Hardware->Optical devices and delete the two items there, Finish and then reboot?
On Sunday 21 May 2006 3:41 am, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
Yes, I checked and found that the master/slave settings were right and that the DVD power cable was a little loose. Tightened everything up again. Well both optical drives are on the same IDE channel, as they can be. The CDROM works fine but the DVD does not read from a DVD, even after delving into the box, but tries the CDROM when I add a new source from a DVD.
Another thing to try is setting both devices to Cable Select/CS and making sure the master device is at the end of the cable, the slave device is in the middle and the mainboard is on the other end of the IDE cable. I've fixed more than a few system's CD/DVD drive problems this way. I still haven't found out the magic of which mainboard/BIOS and devices actually require cable select versus master/slave. Ran out of chickens to sacrifice... Another thing to check is firmware on the CD and DVD devices. www.CDFreaks.com may have information on any firmware updates for your drives that could improve performance, allow more formats to be read/written, etc. Stan
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