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Jeremy Blosser wrote:
Steven T. Hatton [hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil] wrote:
If the Reply To field is set to suse-linux@suse.com messenger will reply to the list. It works that way on other lists. I am not an expert on setting up mailing list, but I am sure LINUX CAN DO THAT TOO!
Sigh. Changing the reply-to field is a bad idea, that's why this list doesn't do it anymore. There are simply better ways to take care of this, one of them being a mailer that has a list-reply function, or proper use of mail-followup-to.
<rant> Well quite. Netscape doesn't seem to do this, but in other respects is the only usable mail client I've come across for Linux - which isn't saying much, and is quite a shock. Vast numbers of mail clients, pretty much all of them either an apalling user experience (eg: PINE), completely incomprehensible (eg: Applix, StarOffice) or just plain incapable (eg: KMail). Netscape is hardly ideal (not being able to handle more than one POP3 source is a disaster), but it's the best of a bad bunch. I'm on a large number of high-volume mailing lists and I'm used to Messenger Pro on RISC OS which does this sort of thing perfectly and is one of the two reasons why I still use my Acorn when I'm in its presence (the other being Zap). </rant> -- Rachel Greenham Epinet Communications plc - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>
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<PRE> Rachel Greenham [rachel@epinet.co.uk] wrote:
Jeremy Blosser wrote:
Sigh. Changing the reply-to field is a bad idea, that's why this list doesn't do it anymore. There are simply better ways to take care of this, one of them being a mailer that has a list-reply function, or proper use of mail-followup-to.
Well quite. Netscape doesn't seem to do this, but in other respects is the only usable mail client I've come across for Linux - which isn't saying much, and is quite a shock.
Well, you didn't mention Mutt, so I'll refer you to <A HREF="http://www.mutt.org/"><A HREF="http://www.mutt.org/</A">http://www.mutt.org/</A</A>> As long as to you console based != always hard to use you may like what you find. I'm by no means a console-only person but I still use Mutt for mail because it simply has more features than the other mailers I've seen and is really easy to learn and use. (I do personally prefer a console mailer so I don't have to be somewhere I can run x to get my mail, but anyway...) It makes processing large volumes of list mail and other mail pretty much painless. -- Jeremy Blosser | jblosser@firinn.org | <A HREF="http://jblosser.firinn.org/"><A HREF="http://jblosser.firinn.org/</A">http://jblosser.firinn.org/</A</A>> -----------------+-------------------------+------------------------------ "Would you fight to the death, for that which you love? In a cause surely hopeless ...for that which you love?" -- D. McKiernan, _Dragondoom_ </PRE> <A HREF="pgp00000.pgp"> PGP signature</A></P>
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Jeremy Blosser wrote:
Rachel Greenham [rachel@epinet.co.uk] wrote:
Jeremy Blosser wrote:
Sigh. Changing the reply-to field is a bad idea, that's why this list doesn't do it anymore. There are simply better ways to take care of this, one of them being a mailer that has a list-reply function, or proper use of mail-followup-to.
Well quite. Netscape doesn't seem to do this, but in other respects is the only usable mail client I've come across for Linux - which isn't saying much, and is quite a shock.
Well, you didn't mention Mutt, so I'll refer you to <A HREF="http://www.mutt.org/"><A HREF="http://www.mutt.org/</A">http://www.mutt.org/</A</A>> As long as to you console based != always hard to use you may like what you find. I'm by no means a console-only person but I still use Mutt for mail because it simply has more features than the other mailers I've seen and is really easy to learn and use. (I do personally prefer a console mailer so I don't have to be somewhere I can run x to get my mail, but anyway...) It makes processing large volumes of list mail and other mail pretty much painless.
Well, I looked at Mutt before, but I really do want an X-based one. What I *also* want is for whatever I use to use the normal unix mail folders - Netscape with IMAP might do it but I haven't set that up yet, then, as you say, I can use a console system remotely - and for such occasions PINE will suffice. (More commonly I'd choose to set my X or other client to point IMAP at my mail folders if possible...) -- Rachel Greenham Epinet Communications plc - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>
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Rachel Greenham <rachel@epinet.co.uk> writes:
Well, I looked at Mutt before, but I really do want an X-based one. What I *also* want is for whatever I use to use the normal unix mail folders
Have you looked at gnus? - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>
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On 01-Mar-99 Rachel Greenham wrote:
<rant> Well quite. Netscape doesn't seem to do this, but in other respects is the only usable mail client I've come across for Linux - which isn't saying much, and is quite a shock. Vast numbers of mail clients, pretty much all of them either an apalling user experience (eg: PINE), completely incomprehensible (eg: Applix, StarOffice) or just plain incapable (eg: KMail). Netscape is hardly ideal (not being able to handle more than one POP3 source is a disaster), but it's the best of a bad bunch. I'm on a large number of high-volume mailing lists and I'm used to Messenger Pro on RISC OS which does this sort of thing perfectly and is one of the two reasons why I still use my Acorn when I'm in its presence (the other being Zap). </rant>
Hi Rachel, On the grounds of all the defects you've listed above, may I suggest XFMail which, as far as I am concerned, performs well in all these respects (and many others)? I find it a nice user experience, it is pretty straightforward to comprehend (though there are a few features you may have to scratch your head over a bit), it can handle several POP3 sources, it provides good filtering rules, etc. In fact it has more useful options than I'm able to count. Best wishes, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Date: 01-Mar-99 Time: 15:40:18 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------ - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>
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Rachel Greenham wrote:
Jeremy Blosser wrote:
Steven T. Hatton [hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil] wrote:
If the Reply To field is set to suse-linux@suse.com messenger will reply to the list. It works that way on other lists. I am not an expert on setting up mailing list, but I am sure LINUX CAN DO THAT TOO!
Sigh. Changing the reply-to field is a bad idea, that's why this list doesn't do it anymore. There are simply better ways to take care of this, one of them being a mailer that has a list-reply function, or proper use of mail-followup-to.
<rant>
Well quite. Netscape doesn't seem to do this, but in other respects is the only usable mail client I've come across for Linux - which isn't saying much, and is quite a shock. Vast numbers of mail clients, pretty much all of them either an apalling user experience (eg: PINE), completely incomprehensible (eg: Applix, StarOffice) or just plain incapable (eg: KMail). Netscape is hardly ideal (not being able to handle more than one POP3 source is a disaster), but it's the best of a bad bunch. I'm on a large number of high-volume mailing lists and I'm used to Messenger Pro on RISC OS which does this sort of thing perfectly and is one of the two reasons why I still use my Acorn when I'm in its presence (the other being Zap).
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I agree with most of that. I personally dig PINE, but I'm into that kinky stuff. It's only really usable though if you use fetchmail, do the local spool thing and all that. What I really want is Eudora Pro for Linux. I would pay twice the Windows price. -- lunaslide * PGP key->pgpkeys.mit.edu port 11371 * * * * * * Yep. I have a very active imagination; it's been a personal condition of mine for years now. * -Bruce Sterling * * * * * - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>
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On Mon, Mar 01, 1999 at 12:36:06PM +0000, Rachel Greenham wrote:
Jeremy Blosser wrote:
Steven T. Hatton [hattons@CPKWEBSER5.ncr.disa.mil] wrote:
If the Reply To field is set to suse-linux@suse.com messenger will reply to the list. It works that way on other lists. I am not an expert on setting up mailing list, but I am sure LINUX CAN DO THAT TOO!
Sigh. Changing the reply-to field is a bad idea, that's why this list doesn't do it anymore. There are simply better ways to take care of this, one of them being a mailer that has a list-reply function, or proper use of mail-followup-to.
<rant>
Well quite. Netscape doesn't seem to do this, but in other respects is the only usable mail client I've come across for Linux - which isn't saying much, and is quite a shock. Vast numbers of mail clients, pretty much all of them either an apalling user experience (eg: PINE), completely incomprehensible (eg: Applix, StarOffice) or just plain incapable (eg: KMail). Netscape is hardly ideal (not being able to handle more than one POP3 source is a disaster), but it's the best of a bad bunch. I'm on a large number of high-volume mailing lists and I'm used to Messenger Pro on RISC OS which does this sort of thing perfectly and is one of the two reasons why I still use my Acorn when I'm in its presence (the other being Zap).
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Rachel Greenham <rachel@epinet.co.uk> writes:
Jeremy Blosser wrote:
Well quite. Netscape doesn't seem to do this, but in other respects is the only usable mail client I've come across for Linux - which isn't saying much, and is quite a shock.
Ahem. I sympathize. Really, I do. I don't suppose it will help to mention that I really like the combination of Xemacs and gnus... <A HREF="http://www.gnus.org"><A HREF="http://www.gnus.org</A">http://www.gnus.org</A</A>> Someone else (Ted Harding?) has already mentioned XFMail. Let me second that suggestion. I used it for a long time before I discovered the joys of gnus, and I liked it a lot. If you haven't tried it yet, you might want to check it out. <A HREF="http://burka.netvision.net.il/xfmail/xfmail.html"><A HREF="http://burka.netvision.net.il/xfmail/xfmail.html</A">http://burka.netvision.net.il/xfmail/xfmail.html</A</A>> -- Bud Rogers <budr@sirinet.net> <A HREF="http://www.sirinet.net/~budr/zamm.html"><A HREF="http://www.sirinet.net/~budr/zamm.html</A">http://www.sirinet.net/~budr/zamm.html</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>
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