Re: [SLE] ASUS Motherboards or i820 chipset
Well thanks for the news, but I guess I was a little bit fast for buying the thing ASUS p3C2000 Well I am using it now with the default kernel of suse. I haven't played with any of the settings yet. I will try today hopefully and see what are the outcomes. Togan Muftuoglu toganm@yahoo.com Chris.Smith@raytheon.co.uk wrote:
Hi,
Personally I wouldn't touch an 820 chipset with a shitty stick. They're very very broken. They may work but the throughput is not what it should be (as Intel specced). I don't know if the native ATA/66 controller works or not, but I can probably find out.
HTH
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Hi everyone, First of all my new baby asus p3c2000 loaded linux with no problem. I am still using the XF86Config that was created before I upgraded the motherboard. Now the question may sound stupid but I still want to ask what can go wrong if I install the i810 chipset reconfigure the X environment and then do the following rm /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA ln -s /usr/X11R6/bin/XFCom_i810 /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA insmod /lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/agpgart.o mknod /dev/agpgart c 10 175 BTW the graphic card is Matrox G400 Dual head Thanks in advance -- Togan Muftuoglu toganm@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
I knew when I asked the question it was stupid my only concern should be the ULTRA ATA support not the AGP correct ?? Thanks -- Togan Muftuoglu toganm@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
I put SuSe 6.3 on a old P133 with 32Mb I had. Turns out that I'm using it more than I thought. This is just a home machine. Right now I'm indexing with Swish about 6000 small html files. Poor thing is swapping like crazy. The swish process is using 29M just itself. CPU is 95% idle. It's state is often 'D' in top, which I guess is waiting on IO? 3 questions: 1) Is P133 enough CPU and will loading up on memory solve my problems? 2) Otherwise, say I want to upgrade the motherboard and memory together. Will I be lucky enough to drop in a new motherboard and Linux will boot, or do I need to go through installation again? 3) Any suggestions on motherboards? I don't want to spend more than a few hundred USDs Thanks, Bill Moseley mailto:moseley@hank.org -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Bill Moseley wrote:
I put SuSe 6.3 on a old P133 with 32Mb I had. Turns out that I'm using it more than I thought.
This is just a home machine.
Right now I'm indexing with Swish about 6000 small html files. Poor thing is swapping like crazy. The swish process is using 29M just itself. CPU is 95% idle. It's state is often 'D' in top, which I guess is waiting on IO?
3 questions:
1) Is P133 enough CPU and will loading up on memory solve my problems?
I don't know but it sounds like you need more memory. One thing is I guess the board is using SIMMS. Around here Simms are EXPENSIVE. I think the only thing still using them are printers so the prices have been jacked up. From the top manpage. D for uninterruptible sleep
2) Otherwise, say I want to upgrade the motherboard and memory together. Will I be lucky enough to drop in a new motherboard and Linux will boot, or do I need to go through installation again?
I'd like an answer to this to.
3) Any suggestions on motherboards? I don't want to spend more than a few hundred USDs
You can get very good motherboards for $200 US. You can get very good ones for about $200 CDN. Actually even less if you look around. A couple of possible issues. I'm guessing the system is in an AT case? If so you either need a new ATX case or a good AT based motherboard. Around here the Asus P5-B [I think thats the right model] is not much over $120 cdn. $85US??. Add your favorite AMD cpu and some memory. If you want to switch over to ATX then it will cost you more but you get plenty of choices. A local company has an ad for a Tyan S1834 Tiger 133 which sounds like an interesting board. Anybody know how well the VIA chipset works under Linux? Nick -- Nick Zentena "The Linux issue," Wladawsky-Berger explained, "is whether this is a fundamentally disruptive technology, like the microprocessor and the Internet? We're betting that it is." -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
At 11:49 AM 03/22/00 -0500, Nick Zentena wrote:
Bill Moseley wrote:
2) Otherwise, say I want to upgrade the motherboard and memory together. Will I be lucky enough to drop in a new motherboard and Linux will boot, or do I need to go through installation again?
I'd like an answer to this to.
How about the Linux move? In stall my EIDE drives ( a 1.6 and a 10.2) and boot right up? Or do I need to do some type of re-installation to get the kernel to see the change in motherboard hardware? Thanks for the info! Bill Moseley mailto:moseley@hank.org -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
I once installed slackware on a 486 on a 2.1 quantam drive, took the drive
out and dropped it into a whole new K62 system and it worked.
When you do this, make sure the boot drive is in the same place as when it
was installed (ussually primary master) and also check the CMOS table to
make sure the bios "sees" the hard drive, boot up, it will boot.
If there is new hardware on the motherboard (serial/parellel/SCSI/sound) you
/may/ (and this is a big may) have to recompile the kernel for these new
devices. It should atleast boot up and use most (if not all) of the
hardware. If both boards have the same basic setup, (2 serial/1 parellel
for both boards) you shouldn't have to much of a problem.
Also if you are going from a lower grade proc to a higher grade
(486->pentium) there should not be any problems. But if you compiled your
kernel for a pentIII and plan to drop it in a 386 box you might have trouble
there, since new cpu ussually have "expanded" instruction sets, where as new
cpu are also backware compatiable with older procs.
A kernel compiled for the 386 should work on all X86 CPUs, where as a kernel
compiled for an Althon probably would have trouble working with a 386. You
can go up classes, but /ussually/ not down classes.
Since you said "upgrade" I will assume you are either going with a higher
class or same class CPU, which in that case, no you shouldn't have to many
problems with it.
Jack
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From: Bill Moseley
At 11:49 AM 03/22/00 -0500, Nick Zentena wrote:
Bill Moseley wrote:
2) Otherwise, say I want to upgrade the motherboard and memory together. Will I be lucky enough to drop in a new motherboard and Linux will boot, or do I need to go through installation again?
I'd like an answer to this to.
How about the Linux move? In stall my EIDE drives ( a 1.6 and a 10.2) and boot right up? Or do I need to do some type of re-installation to get the kernel to see the change in motherboard hardware?
Thanks for the info!
Bill Moseley mailto:moseley@hank.org
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Bill Moseley wrote:
I put SuSe 6.3 on a old P133 with 32Mb I had. Turns out that I'm using it more than I thought. This is just a home machine. Will I be lucky enough to drop in a new motherboard and Linux will boot, or do I need to go through installation again?
Yes, PLEASE . . . this is exactly what I have been wanting to ask. My old P133 is too slow for Star Office. I like the idea of putting in a new AMD CPU What problems am I likely to meet ? thanks :) ____________ sent on Linux ____________ -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Check to see that your motherboard will accomidate the faster amd cpu , as the voltage varies , and check the bus speed as well. If the motherboard suports the chip you will be ok . Have you looked into adding ram > How much ram do you have. You can also try applixware. It runs much faster and beter on that calss hardware. I have applix on a P150 with 32 meg ram on 2 gig drive , with built in 2 meg CL chipset running with XFCE. KDE was too slow , Star Office was way to slow , even with XFCE. AMD K^ 2 are pretty cheap now. Questin is does the mc work with them. At 07:59 PM 3/22/2000 +0200, tabanna wrote:
Bill Moseley wrote:
I put SuSe 6.3 on a old P133 with 32Mb I had. Turns out that I'm using it more than I thought. This is just a home machine. Will I be lucky enough to drop in a new motherboard and Linux will boot, or do I need to go through installation again?
Yes, PLEASE . . . this is exactly what I have been wanting to ask. My old P133 is too slow for Star Office. I like the idea of putting in a new AMD CPU
What problems am I likely to meet ?
thanks :)
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If yer dropping in a new motherboard, you'll want to be sure your running a
very generic kernel prior to doing the change. Such a kernel should have a
minimal set of drivers, etc, and you may (if yer extra paranoid) want to
build it for a 386 to be certain that it'll work with the old board and the
new board. Once the new board is in, then you rebuild the kernel for that
board.
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From: "tabanna"
I put SuSe 6.3 on a old P133 with 32Mb I had. Turns out that I'm using it more than I thought. This is just a home machine. Will I be lucky enough to drop in a new motherboard and Linux will boot, or do I need to go through installation again?
Yes, PLEASE . . . this is exactly what I have been wanting to ask. My old P133 is too slow for Star Office. I like the idea of putting in a new AMD CPU What problems am I likely to meet ? thanks :) ____________ sent on Linux ____________ -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
At 08:26 AM 3/22/00 -0800, you wrote:
I put SuSe 6.3 on a old P133 with 32Mb I had. Turns out that I'm using it more than I thought.
2) Otherwise, say I want to upgrade the motherboard and memory together. Will I be lucky enough to drop in a new motherboard and Linux will boot, or do I need to go through installation again?
I recently (last week actually) upgraded my trusty 486 with a VESA bus to a 500 mhz PCI motherboard, and kept the original hard drive, floppy drive and CD-ROM. The former computer was dual booting between Win95 and Suse 6.1. Win95 had to be reinstalled, but the Linux side of the dual boot worked fine without needing any reinstallation; I just had to run Yast to reconfigure for the new video card and PS2 mouse, and it ran great after that.
3) Any suggestions on motherboards? I don't want to spend more than a few hundred USDs
ASUS boards usually get top rated reviews.
Thanks,
Bill Moseley mailto:moseley@hank.org
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On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, Bill Moseley wrote:
I put SuSe 6.3 on a old P133 with 32Mb I had. Turns out that I'm using it more than I thought.
This is just a home machine.
Right now I'm indexing with Swish about 6000 small html files. Poor thing is swapping like crazy. The swish process is using 29M just itself. CPU is 95% idle. It's state is often 'D' in top, which I guess is waiting on IO?
3 questions:
1) Is P133 enough CPU and will loading up on memory solve my problems?
2) Otherwise, say I want to upgrade the motherboard and memory together. Will I be lucky enough to drop in a new motherboard and Linux will boot, or do I need to go through installation again?
3) Any suggestions on motherboards? I don't want to spend more than a few hundred USDs
(1) Your CPU is currently 95% idle and you're apparently maxed out on RAM. I'd say your immediate need is RAM. (2) I have used an AMD K6-2/300 to do an install, and then moved the hard drive to a different box with an Intel 486/33. It works. Just remember where you're going: choose the right kernel, and the right options, for the real target, not the install machine. (Just FYI, in my experience if you install Windows 95 on one machine, then move the drive to a different machine that has the *same* model processor and motherboard, and all the same cards in the same slots, it's probably messed up.) (3) I recently popped for a Soyo motherboard (SY-5EH5 if I'm reading the right box), K6-2/500, fan, and 64M RAM. Set me back US$250. It's a serious deal with a catch: the physical layout of the motherboard is not well thought out. You have ONE long PCI slot (dictated where the video card went). The other two can't take long cards because the processor fan is in the way. Maybe if Transmeta produces some of their below-bathwater-temperature processors for the Socket 7 motherboard, this arrangement could work, but it has a problem with current Intel and AMD frying pans. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
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