On Thursday 05 Mar 2015 08:59:02 Stevens wrote:

On 03/05/2015 08:30 AM, ianseeks wrote:

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HI

I've had a Samsung laser connected on an USB port for a few years now, all working quite well. I change the cartridges and they were all recognised by the printer fine but i could no longer print anything. So i went back to basics and decided to delete it and re-add it. Its aSamsung CLP-325W (wireless) laser.

Now, using Yast (and CUPS), detection of the printer will not find a USB connection. It comes back with the following options but no USB:

1. a serial:/dev/ttyS0. 2. socket: and ipp: network addressed with correct model but also cannot print a test page (error: "Unable to add document to print job") 3: parallel:/dev/lp0

The "Connection Wizard" gives you a USB option but there is nothing in the list to select. I've tried moving the printer USB cable to other working slots but still no joy.

Anybody have any ideas how i can get an opensuse 13.2 tumbleweed KDE 4.14.5 system to recognise a printer on a USB port? My Canon USB scanner works fine.

regards

Ian

Ian:

Maybe the printer broke. My guess based on the info you gave. Have you tried a different printer on that computer? Have you tried that printer on a different box? Did you make a system change immediately prior to the printer quitting? Thanks for replying. I've plugged it into my girlfriends Win7 laptop and it detected it via USB quite happily and it prints via the cable and wireless as well via Win7 It looks like Yast and CUPS don't test the USB ports for printers, only serial, parallel and network.

Fred

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On Thursday 05 Mar 2015 17:03:27 jdd wrote:

Le 05/03/2015 17:00, ianseeks a écrit :

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It looks like Yast and CUPS don't test the USB ports for printers, only serial, parallel and network.

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Fred

usually, usb printer are installed silently, without any user intervention. I don't know what is your problem, but if the printeer stopped working, it may be the same problem that prevent it to install

jdd Thanks jdd

The printer works fine on Win7 when connected via USB. Yast and CUPS don't seem to be checking USB, the Yast/"Hardware Information" shows the printer connected to the USB -see below. 58: USB 00.0: 10900 Printer [Created at usb.122] Unique ID: 7bWa.pktLE_boEvF Parent ID: pBe4.3f5c44ENLJ9 SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:13.2/usb2/2-3/2-3:1.0 SysFS BusID: 2-3:1.0 Hardware Class: printer Model: "Samsung Electronics CLP-320 Series" Hotplug: USB Vendor: usb 0x04e8 "Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd" Device: usb 0x329f "CLP-320 Series" Revision: "1.00" Serial ID: "Z4PGBAGB400971X" Driver: "usblp" Driver Modules: "usblp" Speed: 480 Mbps Module Alias: "usb:v04E8p329Fd0100dc00dsc00dp00ic07isc01ip02in00" Driver Info #0: Driver Status: usblp is active Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe usblp" Config Status: cfg=no, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown Attached to: #57 (Hub) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Thursday 05 Mar 2015 17:15:53 jdd wrote:

Le 05/03/2015 17:07, ianseeks a écrit :

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The printer works fine on Win7 when connected via USB.

may be try cups? (in firefox localhost:631).

there seems to be something staying in the system that don't like the printer :(

jdd CUPS is the same, only shows serial and 2 network options, no USB -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Thursday 05 Mar 2015 11:09:43 Anton Aylward wrote:

On 03/05/2015 11:00 AM, ianseeks wrote:

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Maybe the printer broke. My guess based on the info you gave. Have you tried a different printer on that computer? Have you tried that printer on a different box? Did you make a system change immediately prior to the printer quitting?

Thanks for replying. I've plugged it into my girlfriends Win7 laptop and it detected it via USB quite happily and it prints via the cable and wireless as well via Win7

So Win7 does have some value!

it has its moments. just trying to update libreoffice on it and its taken ages just to compute space for it

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On 03/05/2015 11:02 AM, ianseeks wrote:

Its just the detection of a printer on the USB thats not happy. I've checked the "Hardware information" via Yast and it shows that the printer is detected and correctly identified. It just seems Yast and CUPS are not checking USB for printers.

I have a brother printer that I had working under all of 11.x and 12.x with /CUPS/USB. After I upgraded my phone and got a tablet I converted it to run off the network rather than dedicated to the USB on the server. So I can't tell you about 13.x or Tumbleweed. Its possible this is now one of the things that is in the category of "yes, that's how it used to be but we campaigned/broke all that", -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* ianseeks [03-05-15 11:04]:

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* ianseeks [03-05-15 09:32]:

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I've had a Samsung laser connected on an USB port for a few years now, all working quite well. I change the cartridges and they were all recognised by the printer fine but i could no longer print anything. So i went back to basics and decided to delete it and re-add it. Its aSamsung CLP-325W (wireless) laser.

Now, using Yast (and CUPS), detection of the printer will not find a USB connection. It comes back with the following options but no USB:

1. a serial:/dev/ttyS0. 2. socket: and ipp: network addressed with correct model but also cannot print a test page (error: "Unable to add document to print job") 3: parallel:/dev/lp0

The "Connection Wizard" gives you a USB option but there is nothing in the list to select. I've tried moving the printer USB cable to other working slots but still no joy.

Anybody have any ideas how i can get an opensuse 13.2 tumbleweed KDE 4.14.5 system to recognise a printer on a USB port? My Canon USB scanner works fine. Just a thought, had a similar problem with my networked hp laser. Solved by installing missing cups filters package but cannot recall which. I have following installed, you can compare: cups-filters-foomatic-rip cups-filters cups-filters-cups-browsed cups-filters-ghostscript

note: I am using hplip which you are not. Thanks Patrick. Its just the detection of a printer on the USB thats not happy. I've checked

On Thursday 05 Mar 2015 10:00:58 Patrick Shanahan wrote: the "Hardware information" via Yast and it shows that the printer is detected and correctly identified. It just seems Yast and CUPS are not checking USB for printers.

Did you check to see if you had the "filters" packages installed. It won't hurt anything and might still solve. I didn't check my printer in yast or cups as I use hplip which provides that service. I could not print until I installed the "filters" package. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* ianseeks [03-05-15 11:50]:

On Thursday 05 Mar 2015 11:44:22 Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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Just a thought, had a similar problem with my networked hp laser. Solved by installing missing cups filters package but cannot recall which. I

have following installed, you can compare: cups-filters-foomatic-rip cups-filters cups-filters-cups-browsed cups-filters-ghostscript

note: I am using hplip which you are not.

Thanks Patrick. Its just the detection of a printer on the USB thats not happy. I've checked the "Hardware information" via Yast and it shows that the printer is detected and correctly identified. It just seems Yast and CUPS are not checking USB for printers.

Did you check to see if you had the "filters" packages installed. It won't hurt anything and might still solve. I didn't check my printer in yast or cups as I use hplip which provides that service. I could not print until I installed the "filters" package. i use Samsungs Unviversal drivers and it finds them okay if i try to assign a driver to the fictious serial or parallel port device.

But you do use cups. Do you have the filter packages installed? NOT ANSWERED -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* ianseeks [03-05-15 12:15]:

yes, sorry. i have all installed. CUPS and Yast suffer the same fate whereby they don't find the printer on the USB port, they make no references to USB at all.

Then, do *any* usb devices work correctly? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Thursday 05 Mar 2015 12:39:55 Patrick Shanahan wrote:

lsusb yes, it sees the printer fine

Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 007: ID 04e8:329f Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd CLP-325 Color Laser Printer Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 006 Device 002: ID 09da:000a A4Tech Co., Ltd. Optical Mouse Opto 510D / OP-620D Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04a9:2213 Canon, Inc. CanoScan LiDE 50/LiDE 35/LiDE 40 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 004 Device 002: ID 046d:c31d Logitech, Inc. Media Keyboard K200 Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Op donderdag 5 maart 2015 17:41:21 schreef ianseeks:

On Thursday 05 Mar 2015 12:36:05 Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* ianseeks [03-05-15 12:15]:

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yes, sorry. i have all installed. CUPS and Yast suffer the same fate whereby they don't find the printer on the USB port, they make no references to USB at all.

Then, do *any* usb devices work correctly?

yes, the scanner is fine and the camera is detected. i've just updated my old laptop that had the Tumbleweed version that works with the latest and it now also fails to detect the USB connected printer - looks like a bug in the lower layers somewhere. Just going through hoops to try and log a bug in Bugzilla for opensuse

It is udev that should do the work. You may find the definition for your printer in /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/ Maybe in 70-printers.rules and in combination with /usr/lib/systemd/system/configure-printer@.service -- fr.gr. member openSUSE Freek de Kruijf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 03/05/2015 12:13 PM, ianseeks wrote:

yes, sorry. i have all installed. CUPS and Yast suffer the same fate whereby they don't find the printer on the USB port, they make no references to USB at all.

YAST? What the ***K has YAST to do with this? Look: set your browser (firefox, ... Whatever) to http://localhost:631 Main tab: Administration then printers,, add printer FORGET YAST ITS USELESS -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 03/05/2015 01:03 PM, ianseeks wrote:

printing set up on any systems is crap

Right now I blame Apple. Perhaps we should roll back and re-implement the system that came with old UNIX SVR4. That was clear, understandable and flexible, used visible scripts and scheduling mechanisms. You don't like stock, it was easy to rip out and replace. Filters were a joy! -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Thursday 05 Mar 2015 23:25:50 Gour wrote:

ianseeks writes:

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CUPS gives similar results for local printer - serial port #1, LPT #1, HPLIP - i.e. No USB port connected printers

it looks like whatever does the discovery of printers that both Yast and CUPS use is flawed

Same experience here...I went from 132. to Tumbleweed the other day and Kyocera PS printer does not work any longer (it can print its own self-test page) nor it's possible to detect/configure it with either YAST or directly via CUPS.

Same printer is detected on my netbook which also has TW, but not same updates.

Will try to investigate further...

Sounds similar to mine, i've logged a bug https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=920937

Sincerely, Gour

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On 03/05/2015 05:25 PM, Gour wrote:

ianseeks writes:

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CUPS gives similar results for local printer - serial port #1, LPT #1, HPLIP - i.e. No USB port connected printers

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it looks like whatever does the discovery of printers that both Yast and CUPS use is flawed

Same experience here...I went from 132. to Tumbleweed the other day and Kyocera PS printer does not work any longer (it can print its own self-test page) nor it's possible to detect/configure it with either YAST or directly via CUPS.

Same printer is detected on my netbook which also has TW, but not same updates.

Will try to investigate further...

I have two networked printers that work with 13.2. Both are setup on TW BUT will not print anything. Somewhere on TW printing is F***ed up. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Friday 06 Mar 2015 08:46:39 Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:

On 03/05/2015 05:25 PM, Gour wrote:

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ianseeks writes:

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CUPS gives similar results for local printer - serial port #1, LPT #1, HPLIP - i.e. No USB port connected printers

it looks like whatever does the discovery of printers that both Yast and CUPS use is flawed

Same experience here...I went from 132. to Tumbleweed the other day and Kyocera PS printer does not work any longer (it can print its own self-test page) nor it's possible to detect/configure it with either YAST or directly via CUPS.

Same printer is detected on my netbook which also has TW, but not same updates.

Will try to investigate further...

I have two networked printers that work with 13.2. Both are setup on TW BUT will not print anything. Somewhere on TW printing is F***ed up.

snap. network printing fails with "unable to add document to print job" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Friday 06 Mar 2015 15:03:20 Yamaban wrote:

On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 14:46, Ken Schneider wrote:

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On 03/05/2015 05:25 PM, Gour wrote:

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ianseeks writes:

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CUPS gives similar results for local printer - serial port #1, LPT #1, HPLIP - i.e. No USB port connected printers

it looks like whatever does the discovery of printers that both Yast and CUPS use is flawed

Same experience here...I went from 132. to Tumbleweed the other day and Kyocera PS printer does not work any longer (it can print its own self-test page) nor it's possible to detect/configure it with either YAST or directly via CUPS.

Same printer is detected on my netbook which also has TW, but not same updates.

Will try to investigate further...

I have two networked printers that work with 13.2. Both are setup on TW BUT will not print anything. Somewhere on TW printing is F***ed up.

I did some testing based on 13.2 and then updateing CUPS to the same version as TW, gives me still full detection and after installing the driver (ppd), a working printer.

Return to standard 13.2 and updateing udev removes the prior working printer.

Based on that, I'd lay the finger on udev as cause here.

agreed as Yast fails to detect printer as well so it points to a lower layer issue

CUPS gets the false blame, as for detection it relays on udev.

No more time available for testing that, sorry.

- Yamaban.

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