Is it safest to do the recompile through the command line only? I didn't think about this before, but will it make a difference that I compiled through x windows? Aaron _________________________________________________ <A HREF="mailto:verdesoft@verdesoft.com">mailto:verdesoft@verdesoft.com</A> VerdeSoft Internet Services <A HREF="http://www.verdesoft.com/"><A HREF="http://www.verdesoft.com/</A">http://www.verdesoft.com/</A</A>> Touchstone Climbing Inc. Phone: (510) 654-2510 <A HREF="http://www.touchstoneclimbing.com/"><A HREF="http://www.touchstoneclimbing.com/</A">http://www.touchstoneclimbing.com/</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>
Aaron Prohaska wrote:
Is it safest to do the recompile through the command line only? I didn't think about this before, but will it make a difference that I compiled through x windows?
Aaron
If you're using 5.3 ppp is built into the kernel as is firewall and masquerading You have to make sure you have ppp installed with the installion though, check in yast/install upgrade packages that you have it installed. If you'd like an easy way to connect use wvdial as recommended on this list. See my page for a link to wvdial. That should get you up and running with ppp rob Linux Home page <A HREF="http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LBM.htm"><A HREF="http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LBM.htm</A">http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LBM.htm</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>
Why is it that everyone uses wvdial to connect to the net? I would think that by now there should be an easier way to Linux ppp working. This is one thing that has really surprised me. Aaron dizzy wrote:
Aaron Prohaska wrote:
Is it safest to do the recompile through the command line only? I didn't think about this before, but will it make a difference that I compiled through x windows?
Aaron
If you're using 5.3 ppp is built into the kernel as is firewall and masquerading You have to make sure you have ppp installed with the installion though, check in yast/install upgrade packages that you have it installed. If you'd like an easy way to connect use wvdial as recommended on this list.
See my page for a link to wvdial. That should get you up and running with ppp rob Linux Home page <A HREF="http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LBM.htm"><A HREF="http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LBM.htm</A">http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LBM.htm</A</A>>
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Aaron Prohaska <verdesoft@verdesoft.com> wrote:
Why is it that everyone uses wvdial to connect to the net? I would think that by now there should be an easier way to Linux ppp working. This is one thing that has really surprised me.
Well not everyone....I use XISP which is the easiest I have found. -Dee McKinney Anchorage, AK - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>
Aaron Prohaska <verdesoft@verdesoft.com> writes:
Why is it that everyone uses wvdial to connect to the net? I would think that by now there should be an easier way to Linux ppp working. This is one thing that has really surprised me.
I use kppp. -- Bud Rogers <budr@sirinet.net> <A HREF="http://www.sirinet.net/~budr/zamm.html"><A HREF="http://www.sirinet.net/~budr/zamm.html</A">http://www.sirinet.net/~budr/zamm.html</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>
On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Aaron Prohaska wrote:
Why is it that everyone uses wvdial to connect to the net? I would think that by now there should be an easier way to Linux ppp working. This is one thing that has really surprised me.
Aaron
Not everyone does. I use the suseppp included in the 5.3 dist. The real problem is not that ppp is hard to set up, because if you know the correct options it is quite easy. The problem is that most ISP tech support people don't know their own system. They only know how to set it up in Win95. One thing (actuallu two) that often need to be added to ppp options is ipcp-accept-local ipcp accept-remote This tells pppd that it should allow the remote computer to specify what IP number your computer has during this connection and what IP number your gateway has. If your ISP uses dynamic IPs (like most ISPs) this is probably required to get it to work. If you have a static IP, it can't hurt (in my experience). Why these aren't included in the standard suseppp setup is beyond me. The reason many people use wvdial, is that it allows for many different ISP's systems, so that the info for setting up ppp under Win95 will usually be enough to set wvdial up. Regards Ole Kofoed Hansen - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>
There is. it is a dial-on-demand demon called called diald. It includes a versatile "connect" shell script for your PPP chat stuff (you just need to plug in your ISP's number and your login sequence) and a sample configuration file that allows you to control as precisely what you like exactly what kind of IP packets will cause the link to go up and down. It's what I've been using for the last year and a half and I've had no problems with it. It's included in your SuSE distribution. As installed by YaST, it will use the suseppp chat script instead which works fine, but it is quite easy to plug in the connect shell script instead if you want to. The only thing you are likely to want to change in the diald configuration file is to get it to ignore netbios packets if you have samba support enabled. Ralph rclark@virgosolutions.demon.co.uk Ralph Clark, Virgo Solutions Ltd (UK) __ _ / / (_)__ __ ____ __ * Powerful * Flexible * Compatible * Reliable * / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / *Well Supported * Thousands of New Users Every Day* /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ The Cost Effective Choice - Linux Means Business! On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Aaron Prohaska wrote:
Why is it that everyone uses wvdial to connect to the net? I would think that by now there should be an easier way to Linux ppp working. This is one thing that has really surprised me.
Aaron
dizzy wrote:
Aaron Prohaska wrote:
Is it safest to do the recompile through the command line only? I didn't think about this before, but will it make a difference that I compiled through x windows?
Aaron
If you're using 5.3 ppp is built into the kernel as is firewall and masquerading You have to make sure you have ppp installed with the installion though, check in yast/install upgrade packages that you have it installed. If you'd like an easy way to connect use wvdial as recommended on this list.
See my page for a link to wvdial. That should get you up and running with ppp rob Linux Home page <A HREF="http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LBM.htm"><A HREF="http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LBM.htm</A">http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LBM.htm</A</A>>
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Gee, I dunno, I use diald here and it works great:=) Aaron Prohaska wrote:
Why is it that everyone uses wvdial to connect to the net? I would think that by now there should be an easier way to Linux ppp working. This is one thing that has really surprised me.
Aaron
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Leon McClatchey wrote:
Gee, I dunno, I use diald here and it works great:=)
Aaron Prohaska wrote:
Why is it that everyone uses wvdial to connect to the net? I would think that by now there should be an easier way to Linux ppp working. This is one thing that has really surprised me.
I think the reason is that wvdial will automatically adjust from a "scripted login" to a pap or chap login , depending on what your isp requires. Most people stumble along trying to get conventional scripted logins going, when their isp's require pap. They call it "heuristics" in their docs, sort of "automatic decision-making". - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>
I guess I can't blame them for not wanting to deal with getting Linux to dial with the standerd scripts since I have been unable to get my machine to connect to my ISP. Aaron zentara wrote:
Leon McClatchey wrote:
Gee, I dunno, I use diald here and it works great:=)
Aaron Prohaska wrote:
Why is it that everyone uses wvdial to connect to the net? I would think that by now there should be an easier way to Linux ppp working. This is one thing that has really surprised me.
I think the reason is that wvdial will automatically adjust from a "scripted login" to a pap or chap login , depending on what your isp requires. Most people stumble along trying to get conventional scripted logins going, when their isp's require pap.
They call it "heuristics" in their docs, sort of "automatic decision-making".
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Aaron Prohaska wrote:
I guess I can't blame them for not wanting to deal with getting Linux to dial with the standerd scripts since I have been unable to get my machine to connect to my ISP.
Well actually, I used to use a "standard script" when I first fired up linux, (it was set up for multi-user-multi-isp). But, I've since stopped using ibm.net as one of my isp's and added a few more email accounts to my local provider. I was starting to play a bit with the ppp's option of dial-on-demand, but kept getting error messages due to the kernel I'm using (2.033) and was introduced to diald. A bit of playing around, and trimming the edges, and diald has proven to be more reliable as far as getting my mail on a regular basis, and allowing us to log in from either the linux box or the win95 box:-) -- cya l8r Leon McClatchey <A HREF="mailto:leonmcclatchey@homemail.com">mailto:leonmcclatchey@homemail.com</A> Linux User 78912 (Linux Box) Hlade's Law: If you have a difficult task, give it to a lazy person -- they will find an easier way to do it. - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>
It makes no difference. I've found the Xconfig program to be very reliable. I'd suggest you stick to using that because it makes it easy to go back and change something you set earlier without having to start again. And it gives you useful help hints on most of the items. Ralph rclark@virgosolutions.demon.co.uk Ralph Clark, Virgo Solutions Ltd (UK) __ _ / / (_)__ __ ____ __ * Powerful * Flexible * Compatible * Reliable * / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / *Well Supported * Thousands of New Users Every Day* /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ The Cost Effective Choice - Linux Means Business! On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Aaron Prohaska wrote:
Is it safest to do the recompile through the command line only? I didn't think about this before, but will it make a difference that I compiled through x windows?
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On Tue, Feb 09, 1999 at 09:40:18AM +0000, Ralph Clark wrote:
It makes no difference. I've found the Xconfig program to be very reliable. I'd suggest you stick to using that because it makes it easy to go back and change something you set earlier without having to start again. And it gives you useful help hints on most of the items.
"make menuconfig" allows the same, without the memory usage of xwindows. If memory is a problem, he can "init 2" then "make menuconfig; make dep clean zlilo modules modules_install" and if successful, reboot and bes back in xwindows before he knows it. -- Brad Shelton bshelton@ole.net On Line Exchange <A HREF="http://ole.net"><A HREF="http://ole.net</A">http://ole.net</A</A>> Detroit News <A HREF="http://detnews.com"><A HREF="http://detnews.com</A">http://detnews.com</A</A>> - To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archiv at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>
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