Now that suse will be opened I think we linux users know where it has to go before it can become a threat to the windows desktop! Programs like acidrip,grip streamtuner, gtk-gnutella should be gui'd up to look attractive and not just functional, e17 has some awesome desktop enhancements even though its still in beta . the open office suite must me compiled with suse better in order to open faster ect as right now while a great program it takes forever to open . The good thing is that Suse has been professionally developed and it shows , The open source software movement needs more programmers to make the existing software that we use such as the above I mentioned and the likes of Mplayer and XINE ect more attractive and if necessary legal. -----Original Message----- From: John Abbott [mailto:john@abbotts-r.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 1:21 PM To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: RE: [opensuse] Whishlist EXCELLENT! I would vote for that in a heartbeat! On Wed, 2005-08-10 at 13:11 -0400, Murphy, James (Tech) wrote: Actually I think that Suse should lighten the load with Kde most people do not need all the crap that comes with KDE and if necessary just have it in a repository , FreeBSD has a kde lite which is quite good. With open suse I guess legal issues still affect what software can or cannot be included , but a standard list of YAST sources such as packman ect should be included but disabled , this would be great for newbies who want to install software but don't know how. -----Original Message----- From: John Abbott [mailto:john@abbotts-r.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 1:10 PM To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] Whishlist El Miércoles, 10 de Agosto de 2005 17:55, houghi escribió:

On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 05:30:18PM +0200, Víctor Fernández Martínez wrote:

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No, please. YaST is doing fine, why change to APT?

For all the software out there that is not included in SUSE itself, like playing DVD's, wmdrawer, ccze, Even with the amount of software available with each distro, there will always be some things that will NOT be included and that a user would like.

I have had little or no trouble getting anything I wanted installed on 9.3 However there are occasions where I need to revert to the command line. One of the greatest strengths of SuSE is YaST and I would hate to see it tampered with in the slightest. If alternate methods are Incorporated I would like to see them stay just that - alternate methods with no attempt to integrate them with YaST. John Abbott - still a learner at this advanced age