On 8/11/05, Clayton wrote:

Shriramana Sharma wrote:

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After using a man command, (I recently read up on man mount) how do I get back to the shell prompt?

I tried ESC, but most intelligently it just parrots my key - says "ESC" and does nothing else. Ctrl+F4 completely closes the Konsole window.

Thanks in advance...

q for quit. :-)

C.

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Clayton wrote:

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After using a man command, (I recently read up on man mount) how do I get back to the shell prompt?

I tried ESC, but most intelligently it just parrots my key - says "ESC" and does nothing else. Ctrl+F4 completely closes the Konsole window.

Thanks in advance...

q for quit. :-)

I am doing a no-no by typing CTRL-Z or CTRL-C to close man?

Not really. 'q' is a clean exit... Ctrl+z isn't. Either works.

CTRL-Z isn't an exit at all! The process is still there, just suspended. CTRL-C does exit the process (any process). q is the way to ask this particular process nicely. But there's no effective difference between q and CTRL-C in this case, AFAIK. Cheers, Dave

Randall R Schulz wrote:

CTRL-C is not usually considered a "normal" way to terminate a program.

This is a failure of herd thinking, IMHO.

Instead, it is abortive and may lead to the program to fail to clean up and shut down properly (though that would be considered rather poor Unix / Linux programming form).

A program that fails to clean up and shut down properly (or take some other appropriate action according to its specification) is buggy, pure and simple.

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q is the way to ask this particular process nicely. But there's no effective difference between q and CTRL-C in this case, AFAIK.

In this case. But is not a good habit to develop to use CTRL-C (SIGINT) to routinely shut down an application.

Why is it not a good habit? What problems does it cause? Doing it routinely is a good way of making sure that programs are free of such bugs. Just as typing %8888f into text fields is always worth a try :) Cheers, Dave

Thu, 11 Aug 2005, by dhoworth@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk:

Clayton wrote:

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After using a man command, (I recently read up on man mount) how do I get back to the shell prompt?

I tried ESC, but most intelligently it just parrots my key - says "ESC" and does nothing else. Ctrl+F4 completely closes the Konsole window.

Thanks in advance...

q for quit. :-)

I am doing a no-no by typing CTRL-Z or CTRL-C to close man?

Not really. 'q' is a clean exit... Ctrl+z isn't. Either works.

CTRL-Z isn't an exit at all! The process is still there, just suspended.

Not suspended, sent to the background. It's still running, it just doesn't listen to stdin anymore, and doesn't send anything to stdout. See 'help jobs bg fg' and signal(7)

CTRL-C does exit the process (any process).

Not really, SIGINT can be ignored by a process, or trapped by the shell. . Theo -- Theo v. Werkhoven Registered Linux user# 99872 http://counter.li.org ICBM 52 13 26N , 4 29 47E. + ICQ: 277217131 SUSE 9.2 + Jabber: muadib@jabber.xs4all.nl Kernel 2.6.8 + See headers for PGP/GPG info. Claimer: any email I receive will become my property. Disclaimers do not apply.

On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 20:58 +0200, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:

Thu, 11 Aug 2005, by twe-suse.e@ferrets4me.xs4all.nl:

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Thu, 11 Aug 2005, by dhoworth@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk:

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CTRL-Z isn't an exit at all! The process is still there, just suspended.

Not suspended, sent to the background. It's still running, it just

Damn. No, it isn't. It really is a 'stop' signal. Sorry.

Taken from man bash: If the operating system on which bash is running supports job control, bash contains facilities to use it. Typing the suspend character (typically ^Z, Control-Z) while a process is running causes that process to be stopped and returns control to bash. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge

Dotan Cohen wrote:

On 8/11/05, Clayton wrote:

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Shriramana Sharma wrote:

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After using a man command, (I recently read up on man mount) how do I get back to the shell prompt?

I tried ESC, but most intelligently it just parrots my key - says "ESC" and does nothing else. Ctrl+F4 completely closes the Konsole window.

Thanks in advance... q for quit. :-)

C.

I am doing a no-no by typing CTRL-Z or CTRL-C to close man?

<CTL> Z doesn't close the app. It suspends it. Watch what happens when you do that. You'll likely see something like "[1]+ Stopped man mount" And if you run ps aux|grep mount, you'll see it's still running.