Message-ID: <3A42B045.586DAA98@accefyn.org.co> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 20:37:09 -0500 From: Alex Garcia <acad@accefyn.org.co> Subject: ati I have an ati all in wonder pro 128 video card, I am running suse 6.4 and it is driving me crazy, it just does not work, can not use this video card, so can not use the xserver, how can I fix this? if I try to configure it using sax the computer freezs with the x86config tool well I do the changes select the video card and everything but the same when it comes to startx the xserver gives me lots of errors and the sme does not work, can some of you help me I have written several times to the suse support but acording to them the solutionmay be to buy the newest suse ver.... because they do not give any support for 6.4 anymore, not even if it is a bouta legal bought..... please please!!!
I have an ati all in wonder pro 128 video card, I am running suse 6.4 and it is driving me crazy, it just does not work, can not use this video card, so can not use the xserver, how can I fix this? if I try to configure it using sax the computer freezs with the x86config tool well I do the changes select the video card and everything but the same when it comes to startx the xserver gives me lots of errors and the sme does not work, can some of you help me I have written several times to
Message-ID: <200012220948300758.0F71D588@exchange1> Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 09:48:30 -0500 From: "Tim Duggan" <tduggan@dekaresearch.com> Subject: Re: [SLE] ati Hi, On 12/21/00 at 8:37 PM Alex Garcia wrote: the
suse support but acording to them the solutionmay be to buy the newest suse ver.... because they do not give any support for 6.4 anymore, not even if it is a bouta legal bought..... please please!!!
You didn't mention the X version you are using (3.3.6?). Did you check the support database to find out if your card is supported. http://sdb.suse.de/sdb/en/html/cg_ragechips.html Also there is a bios setting to look at http://sdb.suse.de/sdb/en/html/cg_rage128crash.html Finally, make sure you are using the rage 128 driver (sorry, I don't know the proper name off the top of my head). There are two types of "all in wonder" cards, the new one is based on the rage 128 chip and the older one is mach64 based. IIRC, if you select "ati all in wonder" that will try and use the mach64 driver which would be wrong. You can either select the entry that is most similiar (any with the rage 128 chipset) or hand edit XF86Config to point to the proper driver. Good luck, Tim
From: Nick Zentena <zentena@hophead.dyndns.org> Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 09:47:22 -0500 Message-Id: <00122209472200.00617@hophead> Subject: Re: [SLE] ati On December 22, 2000 09:48 am, Tim Duggan wrote:
Finally, make sure you are using the rage 128 driver (sorry, I don't know the proper name off the top of my head). There are two types of
<p> r128 [at least with X4.0] The rage cards are better supported IMHO under the 4.0 series then older 3.x.x . Nick
From: "Bryan S. Tyson" <bryantyson@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 13:09:58 -0500 Message-Id: <00122213160800.00714@desk> Subject: Re: [SLE] ati On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Nick wrote:
Finally, make sure you are using the rage 128 driver (sorry, I don't know the proper name off the top of my head). There are two types of r128 [at least with X4.0] The rage cards are better supported IMHO under the 4.0 series then older 3.x.x .
Especially if it's the latest All-in-Wonder, I would check this angle. I recently bought an ATI Rage Pro, and it would not work under 3.x.x. However, it works great in 4.0. The ATI cards can be confusing because sometimes they have the same or similar names but use different chips. *************************************************** Powered by SuSE Linux 7.0 Professional KMail 1.0.29.2 Bryan S. Tyson bryantyson@earthlink.net ***************************************************
Message-ID: <3A443EEB.BD49EF67@accefyn.org.co> Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 00:58:03 -0500 From: Alex Garcia <acad@accefyn.org.co> Subject: Re: [SLE] ati I have an ati all in wonder pro, it has 32 megs, and it dows not work, at least until now I have not had any lucky trying to use it unser linux suse 6.4, I will try with suse 7.0, but anyway it is ridiculous to have such a fine card and not to be albe to use it under linux easly, beside the support that suse gives sucks, I am sure that if all linux companies give the same kind of support then it will matter much if microsoft keeps giving us shit like millenium, any way works with most of hardware, in the mean while suse linux all they can sy about a support demand is something like we are no longer giving support for suse 6.4, only for suse 7.0..... that is more than ridiculous, I bought a box suse distribution for full price, and a u$ 200 video card, and can not use not the one not the other, sax frees with this video card, what am I suppouse to do? change the video card everytime I will run linux? and who gives support I ask again... suse as a corporation? no they do not, the mailling list? until now yes we may say so, even if until now I hae not had any real solution, I am affraid that no matter if suse is a great distribution, with out a real support no matter how good the distrubution be, this is a complain about suse as a corporation , a corporation that has no respect for its coustomers, a corporation that do not take care for its coustomers troubles with their product, a product for with they pay in cash.... I understand that most of the facts about installation must be solved by the user, but I do know that things like for example the adecuation of a distribution for being able to use a video card sucn an ATI must be a part of the corporation in this case suse, or at least give a real solution to those of us who have bought the suse distribution and an ATI video card, I am really frustrated because not being able to use a computer just because the OS do not accept the video card and no matter how many times you mail of fax the corporation you just get no response from them..... well makes you think about the sense of buying a legal product ana paying full fee for it, do not want to disturb any of you, just that I am very ungry about this suse and ati video card, cheers "Bryan S. Tyson" wrote:
On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Nick wrote:
Finally, make sure you are using the rage 128 driver (sorry, I don't know the proper name off the top of my head). There are two types of r128 [at least with X4.0] The rage cards are better supported IMHO under the 4.0 series then older 3.x.x .
Especially if it's the latest All-in-Wonder, I would check this angle. I recently bought an ATI Rage Pro, and it would not work under 3.x.x. However, it works great in 4.0. The ATI cards can be confusing because sometimes they have the same or similar names but use different chips.
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Message-ID: <00f101c06ca9$2ec35540$d86ca6cb@scsijon> From: "scsijon" <scsijon@net2000.com.au> Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 17:25:40 +1100 Subject: Re: [SLE] ati
Frommy understanding there is a r128 and the m3/4 for notebooks which also use a version of the r128 drivers, since youve got 32meg i wonder if someone has put the m4 on a card. If so you need to look at using xfree 4.0.2 and a kernal that has ati support.
until now I have not had any lucky trying to use it unser linux suse 6.4, I will try with suse 7.0, but anyway it is ridiculous to have such a fine card and not to be albe to use it under linux easly, beside the support that suse gives sucks, I am sure that if all linux companies give the same kind of support then it will matter much if microsoft keeps giving us shit like millenium, any way works with most of hardware, in the mean while suse linux all they can sy about a support demand is something like we are no longer giving support for suse 6.4, only for suse 7.0..... that is more than ridiculous, I bought a box suse distribution for full price, and a u$ 200 video card, and can not use not the one not the other, sax frees with this video card, what am I suppouse to do? change the video card everytime I will run linux? and who gives support I ask again... suse as a corporation? no they do not, the mailling list? until now yes we may say so, even if until now I hae not had any real solution, I am affraid that no matter if suse is a great distribution, with out a real support no matter how good the distrubution be, this is a complain about suse as a corporation , a corporation that has no respect for its coustomers, a corporation that do not take care for its coustomers troubles with their product, a product for with they pay in cash.... I understand that most of the facts about installation must be solved by the user, but I do know that things like for example the adecuation of a distribution for being able to use a video card sucn an ATI must be a part of the corporation in this case suse, or at least give a real solution to those of us who have bought the suse distribution and an ATI video card, I am really frustrated because not being able to use a computer just because the OS do not accept
Neither of which are SuSE's fault. They don't release packages or kernals untill they are sure that their default application suite work ok. PHP4 and a few others that have been talked about on this messagebank are points in quest and await integration. Thjis meansthat those of us that expect minimum problems when building a new system have such. This also means that when we play we know that a problem is from what were doing, not from the source system, unlike a couple of other versions out there. csijon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Garcia" <acad@accefyn.org.co> To: <bryantyson@earthlink.net> Cc: <suse-linux-e@suse.com> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [SLE] ati <p>> I have an ati all in wonder pro, it has 32 megs, and it dows not work, at least the
video card and no matter how many times you mail of fax the corporation you just get no response from them..... well makes you think about the sense of buying a legal product ana paying full fee for it, do not want to disturb any of you, just that I am very ungry about this suse and ati video card, cheers
"Bryan S. Tyson" wrote:
On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Nick wrote:
Finally, make sure you are using the rage 128 driver (sorry, I don't know the proper name off the top of my head). There are two types of r128 [at least with X4.0] The rage cards are better supported IMHO under the 4.0 series then older 3.x.x .
Especially if it's the latest All-in-Wonder, I would check this angle. I recently bought an ATI Rage Pro, and it would not work under 3.x.x. However, it works great in 4.0. The ATI cards can be confusing because sometimes they have the same or similar names but use different chips.
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Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 11:09:03 -0800 (PST) From: Greg Thomas <ethant@pacificnet.net> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012231106310.21669-100000@hominy.2fortheroad.net> Subject: Re: [SLE] ati Some whiner wrote:
I have an ati all in wonder pro, it has 32 megs, and it dows not work, at least until now I have not had any lucky trying to use it unser linux suse 6.4, I will try with suse 7.0, but anyway it is ridiculous to have such a fine card and not to
Simple solution: there are plenty of fine cards out there that are well-supported, buy one. Greg
From: Dee McKinney <deem@wdm.com> Message-Id: <200012232002.eBNK2kJ32459@wdm.com> Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 11:02:46 -0900 (AKST) Subject: Re[2]: [SLE] ati For example.... The ATI XPERT 2000 is a $100.00 card here in Alaska and I run one on my current workstation. Very nice with 32megs onboard. Fully supported in 7.0 also. /Dee Greg Thomas <ethant@pacificnet.net> wrote:
Some whiner wrote:
I have an ati all in wonder pro, it has 32 megs, and it dows not work, at least until now I have not had any lucky trying to use it unser linux suse 6.4, I will try with suse 7.0, but anyway it is ridiculous to have such a fine card and not to
Simple solution: there are plenty of fine cards out there that are well-supported, buy one.
Greg
From: Nick Zentena <zentena@hophead.dyndns.org> Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 07:56:03 -0500 Message-Id: <00122307560300.00615@hophead> Subject: Re: [SLE] ati On December 23, 2000 12:58 am, Alex Garcia wrote:
I have an ati all in wonder pro, it has 32 megs, and it dows not work, at ^^^^'
That makes it a Rage Pro chip right? I'm not sure it's even supported. I'm not even sure it will be supported. The new Xfree4.02 lists Radeon support but doesn't mention the pro chip. ATI is currently out sourcing the writing of drivers for it's cards. Thats good in one way but it means if they skip a card then it's worse. The orginal Rage 128 had it's driver written by SuSE but since then ATI has taken things over. Nick
well first of all I want to thanks all the replys I had for my inquiry, eveno thos of you who as a solution wrote something like get another video card..... I have tried everything, and nothing has worked, not even tried to reinstall the OS, the ATI AIW 128 pro AGP, 32 megs, with the Rage Pro chip, just can not be used under linux... not under suse 6.4 with the kernel ver it has and the xfree ver it has, wich I do not know wich ver is it, just the suse 6.4 with all the standard settings it has, the box distribution with 6 CD ROM inside. well anyway I have just one more question : will suse 7.0 the box distribution, the one with all those CD ROMS inside, handle this video card???? with out changes, with out having to download a patch from the net and a new ver of this and that so it may work, I want to know if it will work with just what the box has inside, will it? if not with distribution of linux may take my video card, thanks a lot in advance, cheers Nick Zentena wrote:
On December 23, 2000 12:58 am, Alex Garcia wrote:
I have an ati all in wonder pro, it has 32 megs, and it dows not work, at ^^^^'
That makes it a Rage Pro chip right? I'm not sure it's even supported. I'm not even sure it will be supported. The new Xfree4.02 lists Radeon support but doesn't mention the pro chip. ATI is currently out sourcing the writing of drivers for it's cards. Thats good in one way but it means if they skip a card then it's worse. The orginal Rage 128 had it's driver written by SuSE but since then ATI has taken things over.
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I have just got my ati All-In-Wonder 128 Pro AGP with 32 megs to work. It uses the rage chip. I have version 7 and i had to install the xfree 4.02 version to get it to work. What i would like to know is why can a company like XIG make a set of drivers that work right away. Just 2 files to install and it worked fine the first time.
well first of all I want to thanks all the replys I had for my inquiry, eveno thos of you who as a solution wrote something like get another video card..... I have tried everything, and nothing has worked, not even tried to reinstall the OS, the ATI AIW 128 pro AGP, 32 megs, with the Rage Pro chip, just can not be used under linux... not under suse 6.4 with the kernel ver it has and the xfree ver it has, wich I do not know wich ver is it, just the suse 6.4 with all the standard settings it has, the box distribution with 6 CD ROM inside. well anyway I have just one more question : will suse 7.0 the box distribution, the one with all those CD ROMS inside, handle this video card???? with out changes, with out having to download a patch from the net and a new ver of this and that so it may work, I want to know if it will work with just what the box has inside, will it? if not with distribution of linux may take my video card, thanks a lot in advance, cheers
Nick Zentena wrote:
On December 23, 2000 12:58 am, Alex Garcia wrote:
I have an ati all in wonder pro, it has 32 megs, and it dows not work, at ^^^^'
That makes it a Rage Pro chip right? I'm not sure it's even supported. I'm not even sure it will be supported. The new Xfree4.02 lists Radeon support but doesn't mention the pro chip. ATI is currently out sourcing the writing of drivers for it's cards. Thats good in one way but it means if they skip a card then it's worse. The orginal Rage 128 had it's driver written by SuSE but since then ATI has taken things over.
Nick
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Hello I have an ATI AIW 128 pro AGP, 32 megs, with the Rage Pro chip, SuSE 7.0 had no problems setting it up for use. I did run across some minor trouble with Sax2 though. It would not allow the card to work properly for some unknown reason, to me. To get around this problem i used Sax1 to set the resolutions as I wished and saved them. Then I relaunched Sax2 and loaded the prior information for the card then when i ran into the problems with the setup of the card i shut Sax2 down. I do not have any problems with the ATI card otherwise. It works beautifully. On Wednesday 03 January 2001 16:48, you wrote:
well first of all I want to thanks all the replys I had for my inquiry, eveno thos of you who as a solution wrote something like get another video card..... I have tried everything, and nothing has worked, not even tried to reinstall the OS, the ATI AIW 128 pro AGP, 32 megs, with the Rage Pro chip, just can not be used under linux... not under suse 6.4 with the kernel ver it has and the xfree ver it has, wich I do not know wich ver is it, just the suse 6.4 with all the standard settings it has, the box distribution with 6 CD ROM inside. well anyway I have just one more question : will suse 7.0 the box distribution, the one with all those CD ROMS inside, handle this video card???? with out changes, with out having to download a patch from the net and a new ver of this and that so it may work, I want to know if it will work with just what the box has inside, will it? if not with distribution of linux may take my video card, thanks a lot in advance, cheers
Nick Zentena wrote:
On December 23, 2000 12:58 am, Alex Garcia wrote:
I have an ati all in wonder pro, it has 32 megs, and it dows not work, at
^^^^'
That makes it a Rage Pro chip right? I'm not sure it's even supported. I'm not even sure it will be supported. The new Xfree4.02 lists Radeon support but doesn't mention the pro chip. ATI is currently out sourcing the writing of drivers for it's cards. Thats good in one way but it means if they skip a card then it's worse. The orginal Rage 128 had it's driver written by SuSE but since then ATI has taken things over.
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Message-Id: <200012240148.TAA40727455@smtppop1pub.verizon.net> Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 20:54:05 -0500 From: Ed Harrison <ED.TMAN@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [SLE] ati IT WORKS, BELIEVE ME. ** Reply to message from Alex Garcia <acad@accefyn.org.co> on Sat, 23 Dec 2000 00:58:03 -0500 Alex, I think that I responded to this once before. I never said whether you have XFree 3.3.6 (SuSE 6.4), or if you upgraded to 4.0x. This is for 3.3.6. The ATI All-In-Wonder Pro 128 uses the Rage 128 chip, the same one that is in my Xpert2000 (See www.ati.com/na/pages/products/pc/xpert2000_pro/index.html and www.ati.com/na/pages/products/pc/aiw_128_pro/index.html). The driver is therefore XFCom_Rage128. If running XFree86 <4.0, the driver is contained in the xrage.rpm file at ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/X/XFCom/xrage/xrage.rpm. XFCom_Rage128 is placed in /usr/X11R6/bin/. Rename /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA anything else. As root, mv /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA.backup. Create a symbolic link to XFCom_Rage128: ln -s /usr/X11R6/bin/XFCom_Rage128 XF86_SVGA. Logout. Restart X server. Log back in and the proper Xserver is up and running. There is no need to throw rocks at SuSE or ATI. This card (at least the Rage 128 chip) works beautifully with linux. With this driver it is fully supported to Millions of colors (24bpp or 32bpp) up to 1600x1200 resolution, especially with 32 MB. <p>Ed Harrison SuSE 6.4, Kernel 2.2.17, IBM JDK 1.1.8 (20000713) or Warp 4, FP12 or Windows98 (running in vmware 2.0.3 for fun) PolarBarMailer 1.1.19
Message-ID: <3A450242.97B521E4@gmx.net> Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 20:51:30 +0100 From: "o.b./RSi/TRSi/SCS*TRC/BB/F4CG" <ob_ok@gmx.net> Subject: [SLE] Project: PCB4LiNUX Dear /L-fans, I have been running my BBS for 9 years now (under PC Board V12, V14, V15...) and have now switched to Linux using DOSEmu. Gosh!It runs more stable than ever before! Has anyone of you experiences with PCBoard or are you all "DAYDREAM"ers? :-) I want to setup Email routing INTO and OUT OF PCB with Linux in background. Any idea? Olli
From: "Sean Rima" <lists@tcob1.net> Message-ID: <9234oj$26p$1@tcob1.net> Date: Saturday, 23 Dec 2000 21:17:07 +000 Subject: Re: [SLE] Project: PCB4LiNUX Originally to: O B /RSi/TRSi/SCS*TRC/BB/F4CG * o.b./RSi/TRSi/SCS*TRC/BB/F4CG's head hit the keyboard and wrote: <p>obRTSTBFC> Dear /L-fans, obRTSTBFC> I have been running my BBS for 9 years now (under PC Board V12, V14, obRTSTBFC> V15...) and obRTSTBFC> have now switched to Linux using DOSEmu. obRTSTBFC> Gosh!It runs more stable than ever before! obRTSTBFC> Has anyone of you experiences with PCBoard or are you all obRTSTBFC> "DAYDREAM"ers? :-) There are other BBS packages either in the pipeline or released for Linux, namely BBBS, EleBBS, Mystic, SBBS to name a few. DD is a royal pain but that is my view. Sean -- GNUPG ID 92B9D0CF | Fidonet: 2:263/950 ICQ: 679813 | Homepage: http://www.tcob1.net Linux User: #124682 | My last power cut was 5d, 3h and 39m ago ...What's a new brides' wedding night dread? Microsoft.
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