On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Greg Freemyer wrote:

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Greg Freemyer wrote:

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On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Shayon wrote:

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Hello guys, Now the [Upgrade]page of openSUSE wiki is completed and has been merged with [How to migrate to a new openSUSE version]as it was mentioned in that page.So now,I would request others to please go through it and respond with reviews.I'll be very grateful .Thank for your support for the betterment of openSUSE.

Warm Regards Shayon(warlock)

I assume you mean:

http://en.opensuse.org/Upgrade

It would be nice to see at least a reference to: http://en.opensuse.org/Upgrade/11.2 or maybe it is there and I missed it.  Admittedly 11.2 is not out, but it is just a month or two away.

Regardless, my biggest complaint about the entire "zypper dup" process is the handling of repositories.

See: http://en.opensuse.org/Upgrade#Adding_the_OSS_repository http://en.opensuse.org/Upgrade#Add_more_repositories

I recently filed a bugzilla against factory because from 11.1 I tried to do a zypper dup upgrade and it failed leaving me with a text only interface.

As the wiki instructions indicate, I added the OSS and non-OSS repository and then tried zypper dup.  When this failed I opened a bugzilla.

I was told I failed to read the documentation and that I should have disabled several of my previous repositories prior to upgrading.  Thus is was a user error, not a bug.

Where that documentation is I have no idea.  But the above links don't cover the issue either, so at a minimum they are incomplete a truly important way.

Also, per http://en.opensuse.org/Upgrade/11.2#Command_line

you have to "run SUSEconfig" prior to reboot.  Or maybe that is only for upgrades to 11.2?

I took another look at the wiki page and saw it does address previous repos.  Not sure how I missed it the first time.

For good or bad, it calls for removing all previous repos.

mv /etc/zypp/repos.d /etc/zypp/repos.d-backup

Is that really the community recommended approach?

I was thinking of someway to disable all existing repos at a minimum would be good, but to actually remove them seems pretty drastic to me.  And I assume they cannot be selectively restored from that backup.

That seems totally counter to the OBS approach where many of us have multiple repositories we pull extra packages from.

If this is the community's recommended approach, the Upgrade/11.2 doc needs to reflect this.

Greg

I added a note in the 11.2 Upgrade about the above as another way to handle the existing repos. http://en.opensuse.org/Upgrade/11.2#Command_line Greg -- Greg Freemyer Head of EDD Tape Extraction and Processing team Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer Preservation and Forensic processing of Exchange Repositories White Paper - http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/tng_whitepaper_fpe.html The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 09:33 -0400, Greg Freemyer wrote:

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Added a note in the 11.2 Upgrade about the above as another way to handle the existing repos.

http://en.opensuse.org/Upgrade/11.2#Command_line

Perhaps suggesting that one can save the existing definitions with a zypper command could be nice.

It's a wiki, please feel free to update it if you have good ideas. I am not that comfortable with zypper, and the 2 times I tried a zypper dup, I got caught by the previous repos issue. So I don't know the solution, I just know the documentation at a minimum needs to address it.

As I see it, most all repos have the OS version as part of the name. Like:

       http://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/11.1        http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.1/

If you are updating the distro, you cannot use them anyway. Each one would need to be verified to see that there is a version for the new OS distro.

But if you export the current list, at least you can remember which ones to check.

Very much my point. I'm sure some people have dozens of add-on repos, and simply removing them into a backup seems drastic.

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On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 12:33:39 Rajko M. wrote:

On Friday 18 September 2009 08:57:38 Greg Freemyer wrote:

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Very much my point. I'm sure some people have dozens of add-on repos, and simply removing them into a backup seems drastic.

Even with zypper lr -e repos that will create file reops.repo you can't restore particular repos, but all at once, with: zypper ar -r repos.repo

So, without script that will parse repos and update old repositories that belong to 11.1 to those for 11.2, there is no way to change them, like it is mentioned in comment #40 of https://features.opensuse.org/305634 .

Could that not be done easily with awk or sed prior to importing the repos file? In fact, one could easily write a script to do the following: Export the existing repos to a file Update version 11.1 -> 11.2 Remove all old repo definitions Import newly updated repos from file. Refresh the new repos and run zypper -dup (although that may be better done manually). If I was at all confident with awk or sed I'd have a go at it myself. I'm sure though that there are others on the list who could do this and it would surely be useful tool to have... -- =================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker@iinet.net.au =================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org