Hi, Am Dienstag, 27. Mai 2003 18:14 schrieb Johnny Ernst Nielsen:

On the topic, it says "Deal goes to Linux", just with a few more words.

But here is a link.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=technologyNews&storyID=2836822

There will probably be bigger articles about it tomorrow or the day after that.

Take this: http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=technologyNews&storyID=2837894 Greetings from Bremen hartmut

On Wednesday 28 May 2003 11:42 am, Hartmut Meyer wrote:

Hi,

Am Dienstag, 27. Mai 2003 18:14 schrieb Johnny Ernst Nielsen:

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On the topic, it says "Deal goes to Linux", just with a few more words.

But here is a link.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=technologyNews&storyID=2836 822

There will probably be bigger articles about it tomorrow or the day after that.

Take this:

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=technologyNews&storyID=283789 4

Greetings from Bremen hartmut

"IBM and Suse declined to give the value of the bids for their Linux offerings." "Media have reported that Microsoft's offer of about 27.3 million euros ($32.3 million) had been almost three million euros below that of the Linux competitor, but the city had still chosen Linux for strategic reasons." "Microsoft confirmed it had offered discounts for the total project, but declined to give details." Translation: If you go for the apperently lower bid are you really saving money in the long run? Considering the licensing agreement. Force upgrades will more than make up the difference. And consider the point of all the ancillary software - Office X and per seat licenses and the list goes on. Not to mention the never end cycle of bug fixes and vunerability patches, oh and the reboots. The old "pay me now or pay me later" scenerio. Buy up front what you need and then pay later for only what you'll again need. Not pay less now then be forced to buy up regardless of the need, the cost in labor hours in getting new systems up and running. Also, W2k3 servers aren't compatible with a good many existing programs and software - what's the cost of finding replacements and upgrads for all those apps and services? No, may seem like M$ offered more for less but I bet after they did a long term cost analysis the ROI was in favor of Linux and OSS. Cheers, Curtis.

Curtis Rey wrote:

On Wednesday 28 May 2003 08:57 am, pinto wrote:

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Deal goes to Linux { not M$oft }

Bravo !

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GIVE ME A LINK MAN!!! :)

I wanna read it. All the same, WHOHOO!

Cheers, Curtis.

Try http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,1109581,00.asp on for size. Word of caution - the article says "set to go to Linux", not "signed and sealed". it also says neither MS nor SuSE have commented. Nevertheless, this lifted my spirits almost as much as the Novel threat to counter-sue SCO If the Munich deal is true - as I told a colleague "If MS does lose this one, you can mark this as the beginning of the end of Microsoft and of closed source in general. You'll see some very aggressive moves and some very irrational plays as they start turning in their death throws." /Hans

On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 10:14, Stan Glasoe wrote:

On Wed May 28 2003 11:23 am, Hans Forbrich wrote:

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Curtis Rey wrote:

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On Wednesday 28 May 2003 08:57 am, pinto wrote:

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Try http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,1109581,00.asp on for size.

And at our favorite site:

http://www.suse.com/us/company/press/press_releases/archive03/munich.html

Stan

And this goes to show just how much clout big blue also has...Not just in country either. Matt

Mike wrote:

On Wednesday 28 May 2003 20:05, Curtis Rey wrote:

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On Wednesday 28 May 2003 08:57 am, pinto wrote:

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Deal goes to Linux { not M$oft }

Bravo !

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GIVE ME A LINK MAN!!! :)

I wanna read it. All the same, WHOHOO!

We were just out driving home from dinner, and it was announced on the radio news (german). My German isn't that good, but I understood enough so that I got the impression that this is really something big over here.

MickySoft may HAVE been used in large numbers in Germany, but there has been a LOT of dislike for M$ for a long time. I'd guess that yes, it IS "big news" there. Fred -- Fred A. Miller Systems Administrator Cornell Univ. Press Services fm@cupserv.org, www.cupserv.org

Mike wrote:

On Wednesday 28 May 2003 20:43, Fred A. Miller wrote:

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We were just out driving home from dinner, and it was announced on the radio news (german). My German isn't that good, but I understood enough so that I got the impression that this is really something big over here.

MickySoft may HAVE been used in large numbers in Germany, but there has been a LOT of dislike for M$ for a long time. I'd guess that yes, it IS "big news" there.

Yep, and I think that there will be a lot more cities over here falling now. IIRC this is the second one to fall, along with the government switching some of their computers over.

One other thing I read was that SuSE and IBM were in the bidding for the contract. Now that would really be a feather in their cap!!

Yes, and I'll be very surprised if they don't get the contract. There are other important converts as well in Europe, like Ford, which dumped MickySoft on over 10,000 workstations and servers awhile ago, replacing M$ with Linux. I'd really like it proven that MickySoft is behind SCO. IF someone in the right position digs deep enough, someone at SCO or MickySoft will talk. I'm certain that IBM would/will win in court, however, at this point in time, it might be better if IBM simply bought out SCO and then RELEASED ALL of the SCO code under GPL. 'Better to just be done with it. Fred -- Fred A. Miller Systems Administrator Cornell Univ. Press Services fm@cupserv.org, www.cupserv.org

On Wednesday 28 May 2003 20:16, Mike wrote:

On Wednesday 28 May 2003 20:43, Fred A. Miller wrote:

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We were just out driving home from dinner, and it was announced on the radio news (german). My German isn't that good, but I understood enough so that I got the impression that this is really something big over here.

MickySoft may HAVE been used in large numbers in Germany, but there has been a LOT of dislike for M$ for a long time. I'd guess that yes, it IS "big news" there.

Yep, and I think that there will be a lot more cities over here falling now. IIRC this is the second one to fall, along with the government switching some of their computers over.

I wish the UK govt would take notice... Dylan -- Sweet moderation Heart of this nation Desert us not We are between the wars - Billy Bragg

I hope that SuSE and IBM can afford to bring supports to the new 15 000 users in Munich : That would be bad if the support does not follow and the Munich Experiment failed : this is an important test for Linux in real world... Mike wrote:

On Wednesday 28 May 2003 20:05, Curtis Rey wrote:

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On Wednesday 28 May 2003 08:57 am, pinto wrote:

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Deal goes to Linux { not M$oft }

Bravo !

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GIVE ME A LINK MAN!!! :)

I wanna read it. All the same, WHOHOO!

We were just out driving home from dinner, and it was announced on the radio news (german). My German isn't that good, but I understood enough so that I got the impression that this is really something big over here.

Mike

On Wednesday 28 May 2003 8:53 pm, Curtis Rey wrote:

On Wednesday 28 May 2003 08:57 am, pinto wrote:

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Deal goes to Linux { not M$oft }

Bravo !

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HEY BILL AND STEVE! I just wanted to take this opportunity to say to you, your staff, and all the developers at Microsoft.

KISS MY BIG FAT WHITE ASS!!!

snip Kiss a Donkey? I'm sure you know that the Anglo-Saxon word is Arse! Why be coy? Geoff