Hi all, I'm going to upgrade my system and I was thinking in investing in a relatively powerful hardware. It's final purpose will be of both devel and home entertainment. The combination I have in mind is a shuttle amd64 barebone with a radeon AIW (i'm thinking on a pciE 600X-something). It's more cost effective (and, more important, only one slot occupied) than other combination... However, upon poking around on the various forums I've found only panicked mails about things not working, etc. My questions re this subject are: 1. Is this the right place to ask them? :) 2. Is there any sort of TV support on Linux for AIW? I'd just love to run mythTV and get it over with :) 3. More to the subject: Any SuSE users with AIW's? I'd like to find out about reasons of happiness, problems etc. Tia, Laur
On Tuesday 12 April 2005 8:30 am, Laur Ivan wrote:
Hi all,
I'm going to upgrade my system and I was thinking in investing in a relatively powerful hardware. It's final purpose will be of both devel and home entertainment. The combination I have in mind is a shuttle amd64 barebone with a radeon AIW (i'm thinking on a pciE 600X-something). It's more cost effective (and, more important, only one slot occupied) than other combination...
However, upon poking around on the various forums I've found only panicked mails about things not working, etc. My questions re this subject are: 1. Is this the right place to ask them? :) 2. Is there any sort of TV support on Linux for AIW? I'd just love to run mythTV and get it over with :) 3. More to the subject: Any SuSE users with AIW's? I'd like to find out about reasons of happiness, problems etc.
Tia,
Laur
1. OK to ask here _IF_ you are using SUSE for this.!.! 2. There is TV support and more for the AIW _if_ you aren't too bleeding edge on your Xorg/XFree86 programs. http://gatos.sourceforge.org is the place for AIW drivers. They are at XFree86 4.3.0 and X.org 6.7.0 levels. SUSE 9.2 started at X.org 6.8.1 so that eliminated stable release support. I have not tried compiling the latest & greatest CVS from gatos so I can't say what is supported there. 3. AIW 8500DV and an AIW 128 whatever and a TV Wonder/VE. When there is support from gatos it works very well. The TV Wonder is a standalone PCI card and its OK, mono sound, etc. My experience says go the dual card route. Decent main video card and from what I am learning a Hauppage PVR 250 or better. The main problem with ATI's AIW cards is ATI. They have licensed other software for the multimedia capabilities of these cards under MS Windows. Apparently these licenses don't allow for Linux support too. All ATI provides for Linux support is the main graphics driver. They say they are working with gatos and other projects for the mulitmedia Linux drivers for these cards but as they aren't available... There was a recent article on Slashdot http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/04/07/1652233&tid=129 on a decent Home Theatre PC Guide at http://www.2cpu.com/articles/113_1.html. Has some good insight. Stan
On Tuesday 12 April 2005 15:57, Stan Glasoe wrote:
1. OK to ask here _IF_ you are using SUSE for this.!.! :) 9.2 all over the place here :)
2. There is TV support and more for the AIW _if_ you aren't too bleeding edge on your Xorg/XFree86 programs. http://gatos.sourceforge.org is the place for AIW drivers. They are at XFree86 4.3.0 and X.org 6.7.0 levels. SUSE 9.2 started at X.org 6.8.1 so that eliminated stable release support. I have not tried compiling the latest & greatest CVS from gatos so I can't say what is supported there.
..and the only way to have it tested is to get an AIW :)
My experience says go the dual card route. Decent main video card and from what I am learning a Hauppage PVR 250 or better.
The main problem with ATI's AIW cards is ATI. They have licensed other software for the multimedia capabilities of these cards under MS Windows. Apparently these licenses don't allow for Linux support too.
Yes, that's first thing that came to mind... and I just might end up with this sort of solution... I guess I'll have to wait and see (june is the timeframe for the big upgrade) that's a pitty. support for such integrated hardware solution would be great. I've been playing with mythTV the other day and it's quite nice. I was talking to some of the gatos people a few years back and they said there are a bunch of NDAs which they have agreed to in order to get the info. Also, at the time they were about 1 year behind with the supported/tested HDD. I don't think it changed too much.
There was a recent article on Slashdot http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/04/07/1652233&tid=129 on a decent Home Theatre PC Guide at http://www.2cpu.com/articles/113_1.html. Has some good insight. Yes, I've seen that article.. but I'm more for a shuttle xpc than yet another large box.. and that's going to have an extra pcix/agp and a pci at best.
Thanks a lot, Laur
Stan Glasoe wrote:
On Tuesday 12 April 2005 8:30 am, Laur Ivan wrote:
and home entertainment. The combination I have in mind is a shuttle amd64 barebone with a radeon AIW (i'm thinking on a pciE 600X-something). It's That is almost what I have. I got an Asus board with AMD64 and I have an AIW 8500DV.
However, upon poking around on the various forums I've found only panicked mails about things not working, etc. My questions re this That is what I have found too
1. OK to ask here _IF_ you are using SUSE for this.!.! I don't know about the original poster but I have tried both XP64 and SuSE 9.1. On the XP side, it seems there is no hope for 64 bit because ATI doesn't support it with their 64 bit driver even though their site suggests it does. For SuSE it seems I might have to use SuSE 9.0 to get this working.
2. There is TV support and more for the AIW _if_ you aren't too bleeding edge on your Xorg/XFree86 programs. http://gatos.sourceforge.org is the place for AIW drivers. They are at XFree86 4.3.0 and X.org 6.7.0 levels. That seems to be the big problem. The gatos project has some support but there is one important component that only works with 2.4 kernels. AT that point I gave up for the moment because I wasn't sure at what point 64 bit support was added to SuSE
3. AIW 8500DV and an AIW 128 whatever and a TV Wonder/VE. When there is I may be remembering incorrectly but the 8500 might not be the best choice. Last time I looked at gatos, thought I saw the 7500 having better support.
My experience says go the dual card route. Decent main video card and from what I am learning a Hauppage PVR 250 or better. The main problem with I think I am coming to that conclusion too. I already had the AIW 8500DV for a while and wanted to use it but it seems I can only use that one in Windows although perhaps with a lot of fighting, I could get it to work with SuSE
multimedia capabilities of these cards under MS Windows. Apparently these licenses don't allow for Linux support too. :-(
All ATI provides for Linux support is the main graphics driver. They say they are working with gatos and other projects for the mulitmedia Linux drivers for these cards but as they aren't available... I wish they did but it doesn't look like they give much support.
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