[opensuse] Advice needed re getting setting right for new monitor
I just hooked up a new 27" LG monitor which has 2560x1440 resolution to my 13.1 system and using DVI-D cable. [#] Previously I was using a 24" monitor with 1920x1080 resolution which was connected using HDMI cable. The video card I am using in Nvidia Geforce 660 which can handle the 2560x1440 resolution. OK, I knew that I would have to make adjustments in 13.1 for this new monitor but: * when I boot the computer I do not see the GRUB menu; * it takes a loooong time to finally get the normal oS theme (which shows the gecko on the 'vine' tree on the RH of the screen; and * there is nothing else visible - normally you see the user name and the request to enter the logon password, but this is not visible; * on a hunch I typed in the password and got logged in. After I logged in I went to use the nVidia settings (Gecko>Applications>Applications>Nvidia X Server Settings) and while the settings recognised the monitor and its resolution I could not save the setting to /etc/X11/xorg.conf because I did "not have root" privileges. Trying to login as root fails because, as I stated above, the login menu is invisible. Also, running 'nvidia-xconfig' a root in a terminal when logged in as myself as the user does not seem to produce the necessary results in /etc/X11/xorg.conf because rebooting results in the same result as mentioned above: no Grub menu, blank screen except for the gecko on the green vine and therefore no logon menu. Can anyone suggest what I need to do to get 13.1 to boot normally - with the Grub2 menu et al? [#] The monitor is actually connected to the video card with both HDMI and DVI-D, but on the monitor the DVI-D is selected as the input. The nVidia settings in 13.1 Applications>Nvidia X Server Settings recognises both but has the DVI-D as the default connection (giving 2560x1440 resolution) while the unused HDMI connection shows 1920x1080 as the resolution - which is why I chose the DVI-D connector. BC -- Using openSUSE 13.1, KDE 4.12.3 & kernel 3.13.6-2 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 20/03/2014 13:12, Basil Chupin a écrit :
Can anyone suggest what I need to do to get 13.1 to boot normally - with the Grub2 menu et al?
just as guess, did you try to remove the hdmi cable? (or look at what os displayed on the monitor on hdmi mode?) we never know what is started first on early boot jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 20/03/14 23:25, jdd wrote:
Le 20/03/2014 13:12, Basil Chupin a �crit :
Can anyone suggest what I need to do to get 13.1 to boot normally - with the Grub2 menu et al?
just as guess, did you try to remove the hdmi cable? (or look at what os displayed on the monitor on hdmi mode?)
we never know what is started first on early boot
jdd
GREAT THINKING number 99! :-) I disconnected the HDMI cable and got the Grub2 menu and the logon menu! :-) And I am sure that I now have the 2560x1440 resolution :-) . (But I'll need to adjust the bootloader specs.) Soooooo much more screen-space. Soooo much more to look at :-) . Many thanks for your suggestion. BC -- A civilisation is judged by how it treats the most vulnerable. Lauren Smith - 30 January 2014 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 20/03/14 08:50 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
Soooooo much more screen-space. Soooo much more to look at :-) .
Nothing beats screen real estate. Nothing! I'm saving up for that 27" tablet ... -- It's amazing how many cares disappear when you decide not to be something, but to be someone. - Coco Chanel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 20/03/14 23:58, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 20/03/14 08:50 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
Soooooo much more screen-space. Soooo much more to look at :-) .
Nothing beats screen real estate. Nothing! I'm saving up for that 27" tablet ...
27" TABLET?! I didn't know that such a beast was available. Or are you thinking well into the future? :-) (When I bought my first 14" CRT monitor I thought I was in heaven! When I bought my first 19" LCD monitor I thought that I was even closer to god :-) . Now, I could have bought a 30" monitor but considered it to be a bit "over the top" as I would have to sit half a room away from it or else get an automatic head-mover to be view the screen from right to left when reading mail :-D . BC -- A civilisation is judged by how it treats the most vulnerable. Lauren Smith - 30 January 2014 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 20/03/14 09:41 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 20/03/14 23:58, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 20/03/14 08:50 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
Soooooo much more screen-space. Soooo much more to look at :-) .
Nothing beats screen real estate. Nothing! I'm saving up for that 27" tablet ...
27" TABLET?! I didn't know that such a beast was available. Or are you thinking well into the future? :-)
Gewtting here .. http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2013/01/panasonic-shows-off-a-comically-large-4k-t... BINGO! http://www.t-gaap.com/2013/1/10/podcast-episode-89-the-big-arrss-table?site_... and http://geektrio.net/?p=15073 But not, it seems, at BestBuy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Basil Chupin wrote:
Now, I could have bought a 30" monitor but considered it to be a bit "over the top" as I would have to sit half a room away from it or else get an automatic head-mover to be view the screen from right to left when reading mail :-D .
Several years ago, I was setting up some computers and some of those were equipped with 27" CRT monitors!!! Those monitors took up most of the desk space. I currently have a 23" wide screen monitor, which is plenty big enough. My first monitor was a 9" security monitor connected to my Imsai 8080. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 03/26/2014 12:02 PM, James Knott wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
Now, I could have bought a 30" monitor but considered it to be a bit "over the top" as I would have to sit half a room away from it or else get an automatic head-mover to be view the screen from right to left when reading mail :-D . Several years ago, I was setting up some computers and some of those were equipped with 27" CRT monitors!!! Those monitors took up most of the desk space. I currently have a 23" wide screen monitor, which is plenty big enough. My first monitor was a 9" security monitor connected to my Imsai 8080. I worked as an engineer, and the folks who did pc layouts used 27" monitors--the largest that were available at the time. When doing this kind of work, it helps to be able to see a lot of the periphery of the design all at once. I suspect that architects would also benefit from large monitors.
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On 03/26/2014 01:24 PM, Doug wrote:
On 03/26/2014 12:02 PM, James Knott wrote:
Basil Chupin wrote:
Now, I could have bought a 30" monitor but considered it to be a bit "over the top" as I would have to sit half a room away from it or else get an automatic head-mover to be view the screen from right to left when reading mail :-D . Several years ago, I was setting up some computers and some of those were equipped with 27" CRT monitors!!! Those monitors took up most of the desk space. I currently have a 23" wide screen monitor, which is plenty big enough. My first monitor was a 9" security monitor connected to my Imsai 8080. I worked as an engineer, and the folks who did pc layouts used 27" monitors--the largest that were available at the time. When doing this kind of work, it helps to be able to see a lot of the periphery of the design all at once. I suspect that architects would also benefit from large monitors.
Nothing beats screen real estate! My current drool-over item is the 12" tablet from Samsung. Never mind that it won't fit in my jacket pocket ... Seriously, though: have you considered mounting the monitor in Page Mode. That works great with a pair of them side by side. Lets face it, Page Mode is a natural; our documents work that way and its a more natural way to read web pages. -- There is no castle so strong that it cannot be overthrown by money. -- Cicero -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
This initially smelled to me like it could well be a Plymouth failure, and thought to try disabling it. I never let it install in the first place. But, no Grub menu? Are your vttys blank too once something does appear on screen? Have you tried disconnecting the HDMI cable? Is 2560x1440 not supposed to be possible via use of only one cable? Cards with multiple outputs have a preferred aka #1 port. It sounds like your HDMI cable is on the #1 port, and #2 does not light up until X gets into the act to notice that two outputs exist. I wonder if you were using Grub Legacy if you would have the same problem. I see a lot of complaints about video on the Grub Help mailing list without counterparts in re Grub Legacy. NVidia makes me crazy. I only have 3 such cards of widely varying ages, and don't use those systems much. Intel (except for the older stuff like 845G and before) and ATI for me have been a whole lot less grief. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 21/03/14 00:04, Felix Miata wrote:
This initially smelled to me like it could well be a Plymouth failure, and thought to try disabling it. I never let it install in the first place.
But, no Grub menu? Are your vttys blank too once something does appear on screen? Have you tried disconnecting the HDMI cable? Is 2560x1440 not supposed to be possible via use of only one cable? Cards with multiple outputs have a preferred aka #1 port. It sounds like your HDMI cable is on the #1 port, and #2 does not light up until X gets into the act to notice that two outputs exist.
I wonder if you were using Grub Legacy if you would have the same problem. I see a lot of complaints about video on the Grub Help mailing list without counterparts in re Grub Legacy.
NVidia makes me crazy. I only have 3 such cards of widely varying ages, and don't use those systems much. Intel (except for the older stuff like 845G and before) and ATI for me have been a whole lot less grief.
See my earlier reply to jdd. Disconnecting the HDMI cable did the trick. Re one point you mentioned above- HDMI does appear to only support 1920x1080. I used the HDMI cable because 13.1 was configured using HDMI on the 24" monitor and I wanted to be able to boot into 13.1 without any hassles - a wrong assumption! :-( But I also used the DVI cable to get the higher resolution and which is why the nVidia xconfig recognised both the 2560x1440 resolution as the default and the 1920x1080 as the secondary setting. I haven't used Grub legacy since - whenever. I only use Grub2. And I have no hassles with nVidia cards - I have never used anything else EXCEPT for one MATROX card way back in the early 90s (I think I still have it sitting in the garage) and probably one other brand (?)Hercules. BC -- A civilisation is judged by how it treats the most vulnerable. Lauren Smith - 30 January 2014 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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