Hello, thanks for quick reply on this, but it is exactly why I am reporting this thread. It is a completely clean install of 13.2 x86_64 and systemctl restart x.... (tab on keyboard) only lists xinetd for me or something, nothing else. also with k or capital K or x or capital X there are no proper stuff coming up, as in contrast to this having worked with meaningful service back in older opensuse days according to my experience. # systemctl restart x<tabhere>inetd.service Display all 299 possibilities? (y or n) ux:~ # systemctl restart xinetd.service systemctl restart k<tabhere> kbd.service kexec-load.service kexec.target kmod-static-nodes.service ksysguardd.service On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Anton Aylward wrote:

On 01/30/2015 08:03 AM, cagsm wrote:

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having made a recent zypper up now shows two entries for zypper ps

what systemctl restart command give me a restart of those xdm and kdm from earlier opensuse versions?

PID | PPID | UID | Login | Command | Service | Files ----+------+-----+-------+-----------+---------+---------------------------------------- 807 | 787 | 0 | root | Xorg | | /usr/lib64/libpng16.so.16.13.0;54cb4329 827 | 825 | 486 | kdm | kdm_greet | | /usr/lib64/libpng16.so.16.13.0;54cb4329

thanks for helping

Systemctl is helpful

# systemctl rest<tab> gives # systemctl restart

and

# systemctl restart xdm.<tab> gives # systemctl restart xdm.service

That last restarts kdm which restarts X

See MAN 7 SYSTEMD.SPECIAL

Really, this is 'display-manager.service' which is documented there, but is symlinked to ... Whatever. As it says there.

If you run 'systemctl list-units' you can see what is running. There, I have

xdm.service loaded active running LSB: X Display Manager

which is why I run the restart on xdm.service.

YMMV.

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I finally found something systemctl list-units | grep -i displ display-manager.service loaded active running X Display Manager hooray yet another new name changing stuff from older days. :( ux:~ # systemctl restart display-manager.service ux:~ # zypper ps No processes using deleted files found. thanks again On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 4:03 PM, cagsm wrote:

ux:~ # systemctl list-units | grep -i kd ux:~ # systemctl list-units | grep -i xd ux:~ # systemctl list-units | grep -i org ux:~ # zypper ps The following running processes use deleted files:

PID | PPID | UID | Login | Command | Service | Files ----+------+-----+-------+-----------+---------+---------------------------------------- 807 | 787 | 0 | root | Xorg | | /usr/lib64/libpng16.so.16.13.0;54cb4329 827 | 825 | 486 | kdm | kdm_greet | | /usr/lib64/libpng16.so.16.13.0;54cb4329

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 3:57 PM, cagsm wrote:

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Hello, thanks for quick reply on this, but it is exactly why I am reporting this thread. It is a completely clean install of 13.2 x86_64 and systemctl restart x.... (tab on keyboard) only lists xinetd for me or something, nothing else. also with k or capital K or x or capital X there are no proper stuff coming up, as in contrast to this having worked with meaningful service back in older opensuse days according to my experience.

# systemctl restart x<tabhere>inetd.service Display all 299 possibilities? (y or n) ux:~ # systemctl restart xinetd.service

systemctl restart k<tabhere> kbd.service kexec-load.service kexec.target kmod-static-nodes.service ksysguardd.service

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Anton Aylward wrote:

...

On 01/30/2015 08:03 AM, cagsm wrote:

...

having made a recent zypper up now shows two entries for zypper ps

what systemctl restart command give me a restart of those xdm and kdm from earlier opensuse versions?

PID | PPID | UID | Login | Command | Service | Files ----+------+-----+-------+-----------+---------+---------------------------------------- 807 | 787 | 0 | root | Xorg | | /usr/lib64/libpng16.so.16.13.0;54cb4329 827 | 825 | 486 | kdm | kdm_greet | | /usr/lib64/libpng16.so.16.13.0;54cb4329

thanks for helping

Systemctl is helpful

# systemctl rest<tab> gives # systemctl restart

and

# systemctl restart xdm.<tab> gives # systemctl restart xdm.service

That last restarts kdm which restarts X

See MAN 7 SYSTEMD.SPECIAL

Really, this is 'display-manager.service' which is documented there, but is symlinked to ... Whatever. As it says there.

If you run 'systemctl list-units' you can see what is running. There, I have

xdm.service loaded active running LSB: X Display Manager

which is why I run the restart on xdm.service.

YMMV.

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As I reported, that is/was not the problem. The problem is that this stuff is now called display manger and not kdm or xdm or anything with k or x any more as in previous opensuse versions. The name of the service now starts with a d. Cool :( On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 2015-01-30 16:03, cagsm wrote:

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ux:~ # systemctl list-units | grep -i kd ux:~ # systemctl list-units | grep -i xd ux:~ # systemctl list-units | grep -i org

Just type the full systemctl command, if it does not autocomplete.

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On 01/30/2015 09:57 AM, cagsm wrote:

# systemctl restart x<tabhere>inetd.service Display all 299 possibilities? (y or n) ux:~ # systemctl restart xinetd.service

I did say "YMMV". Actually, my reaction is WTF are you using xinetd for? -- /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML Mail / \ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Op dinsdag 3 februari 2015 10:47:50 schreef cagsm:

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Anton Aylward

wrote:

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On 01/30/2015 09:57 AM, cagsm wrote:

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# systemctl restart x<tabhere>inetd.service Display all 299 possibilities? (y or n) ux:~ # systemctl restart xinetd.service

WTF are you using xinetd for?

i am not using xinetd, that was only the example what autocomplete brought for the letter small x seriously........ sigh. thanks anyways.

It has been mentioned here before, but any window manager will be (re)started using systemctl (re)start display-manager.service. AFAIK also Xorg will be (re)started. -- fr.gr. member openSUSE Freek de Kruijf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 01/30/2015 11:54 AM, Istvan Gabor wrote:

cagsm írta:

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Hello, thanks for quick reply on this, but it is exactly why I am reporting this thread. It is a completely clean install of 13.2 x86_64 and systemctl restart x.... (tab on keyboard) only lists xinetd for me or something, nothing else. also with k or capital K or x or capital X there are no proper stuff coming up, as in contrast to this having worked with meaningful service back in older opensuse days according to my experience.

# systemctl restart x<tabhere>inetd.service Display all 299 possibilities? (y or n) ux:~ # systemctl restart xinetd.service

systemctl restart k<tabhere> kbd.service kexec-load.service kexec.target kmod-static-nodes.service ksysguardd.service

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Anton Aylward wrote:

...

On 01/30/2015 08:03 AM, cagsm wrote:

...

having made a recent zypper up now shows two entries for zypper ps

what systemctl restart command give me a restart of those xdm and kdm from earlier opensuse versions?

PID | PPID | UID | Login | Command | Service | Files ----+------+-----+-------+-----------+---------+---------------------------------------- 807 | 787 | 0 | root | Xorg | | /usr/lib64/libpng16.so.16.13.0;54cb4329 827 | 825 | 486 | kdm | kdm_greet | | /usr/lib64/libpng16.so.16.13.0;54cb4329

thanks for helping

Systemctl is helpful

# systemctl rest<tab> gives # systemctl restart

and

# systemctl restart xdm.<tab> gives # systemctl restart xdm.service

That last restarts kdm which restarts X

See MAN 7 SYSTEMD.SPECIAL

Really, this is 'display-manager.service' which is documented there, but is symlinked to ... Whatever. As it says there.

If you run 'systemctl list-units' you can see what is running. There, I have

xdm.service loaded active running LSB: X Display Manager

which is why I run the restart on xdm.service.

YMMV.

Hello:

This is not addressed to a specific person, I just put it here as this thread is a good example I am complaining about.

I don't understand why more and more members on this list take the habit of top posting. Please don't do that. It's against the mailing list etiquette and very disturbing. Please insert your message always below the message you're answering, or below specific lines of the message you're answering. Your input should always follow what you're responding to. Than you.

Istvan

You're not the only one Istvan. You'll notice that most of the top posters use gmail and *think* thry *have to* as that is where the cursor is when they reply. All they really have to do is move the cursor to the bottom and then start their reply. (just a hint) -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Le 31/01/2015 15:09, Carlos E. R. a écrit :

On 2015-01-31 14:45, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:

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You're not the only one Istvan. You'll notice that most of the top posters use gmail and *think* thry *have to* as that is where the cursor is when they reply. All they really have to do is move the cursor to the bottom and then start their reply. (just a hint)

Also gmail hides or can hide the quoted text; they do not see it and think that the post is blank, when it has pages and pages of quotes.

and don't forget to trim the unused text (as is done now) thanks jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

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On 01/31/2015 06:10 AM, jdd wrote:

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trim the unused text

On rare occasions when I post from a phone, I select not to quote, because its such a tedious process to trim.

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* Ken Schneider - openSUSE [02-02-15 09:44]:

On 01/31/2015 09:09 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2015-01-31 14:45, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:

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You're not the only one Istvan. You'll notice that most of the top posters use gmail and *think* thry *have to* as that is where the cursor is when they reply. All they really have to do is move the cursor to the bottom and then start their reply. (just a hint)

Also gmail hides or can hide the quoted text; they do not see it and think that the post is blank, when it has pages and pages of quotes.

I use gmail for other things and know it can set different, it's just a matter of caring.

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