[opensuse] Firefox startup time?
I've been tinkering with Firefox in openSUSE and comparing it to other distros. Software/Hardware I'm testing on: AMD Phenom II X4, 16GB RAM, SSD drive, and openSUSE x86_64 with KDE 4.11. Firefox on openSUSE takes a very long time (relatively speaking) to launch on openSUSE. Other browsers such as Chrome/Chromium, Opera, Konqueor etc all launch very quickly... under 1.5 seconds. Firefox on the other hand takes between 15 and 20 seconds (feels like a lot longer). nothing is written to console when starting. Nothing is written to /var/log/messages either. This is a default install of Firefox with no extensions and a clean profile. I've compared that behaviour now with Firefox on other distros on the same hardware, and everywhere else I've tested, Firefox is as fast as, or faster than the other browsers - again, no extensions, clean profile. Firefox is also virtually instant on guest OSes (various Linux distros) in VMWare as well - and the VMs are installed onto mechanical drives. So... any ideas why openSUSE's Firefox is so slow in starting up? C. -- openSUSE 12.3 x86_64, KDE 4.11 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 21:13:58 +0100 C C wrote:
I've been tinkering with Firefox in openSUSE and comparing it to other distros.
Software/Hardware I'm testing on: AMD Phenom II X4, 16GB RAM, SSD drive, and openSUSE x86_64 with KDE 4.11.
Firefox on openSUSE takes a very long time (relatively speaking) to launch on openSUSE. Other browsers such as Chrome/Chromium, Opera, Konqueor etc all launch very quickly... under 1.5 seconds. Firefox on the other hand takes between 15 and 20 seconds (feels like a lot longer). nothing is written to console when starting. Nothing is written to /var/log/messages either.
This is a default install of Firefox with no extensions and a clean profile.
I've compared that behaviour now with Firefox on other distros on the same hardware, and everywhere else I've tested, Firefox is as fast as, or faster than the other browsers - again, no extensions, clean profile.
Firefox is also virtually instant on guest OSes (various Linux distros) in VMWare as well - and the VMs are installed onto mechanical drives.
So... any ideas why openSUSE's Firefox is so slow in starting up?
C.
This is just a guess, mind you, but could it be you're on an IPv4 only connection whereas Firefox has IPv6 enabled by default? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Carl Hartung <opensuse@cehartung.com> wrote:
C C wrote:
Firefox on openSUSE takes a very long time (relatively speaking) to launch on openSUSE. Other browsers such as Chrome/Chromium, Opera, Konqueor etc all launch very quickly... under 1.5 seconds. Firefox on the other hand takes between 15 and 20 seconds (feels like a lot longer). nothing is written to console when starting. Nothing is written to /var/log/messages either.
This is just a guess, mind you, but could it be you're on an IPv4 only connection whereas Firefox has IPv6 enabled by default?
I've checked, and network.dns.disableIPv6 is set to false (default). Setting to true made no difference in the startup time. C. -- openSUSE 12.3 x86_64, KDE 4.11 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/27/2013 1:13 PM, C wrote:
I've been tinkering with Firefox in openSUSE and comparing it to other distros.
Software/Hardware I'm testing on: AMD Phenom II X4, 16GB RAM, SSD drive, and openSUSE x86_64 with KDE 4.11.
Firefox on openSUSE takes a very long time (relatively speaking) to launch on openSUSE. Other browsers such as Chrome/Chromium, Opera, Konqueor etc all launch very quickly... under 1.5 seconds. Firefox on the other hand takes between 15 and 20 seconds (feels like a lot longer). nothing is written to console when starting. Nothing is written to /var/log/messages either.
This is a default install of Firefox with no extensions and a clean profile.
I've compared that behaviour now with Firefox on other distros on the same hardware, and everywhere else I've tested, Firefox is as fast as, or faster than the other browsers - again, no extensions, clean profile.
Firefox is also virtually instant on guest OSes (various Linux distros) in VMWare as well - and the VMs are installed onto mechanical drives.
So... any ideas why openSUSE's Firefox is so slow in starting up?
C.
I find firefox is slower to launch on windows too. A lot of this has to do with the shear size of the executable, and once you get that cached by the first launch of the day it will launch much quicker from there on out. One thing that seems particularly time consuming in Firefox is their proxy detection. Simply turn that off in Preferences / Advanced / Network and tell it that it is directly connected with no proxy. -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 9:45 PM, John Andersen <jsamyth@gmail.com> wrote:
Firefox on openSUSE takes a very long time (relatively speaking) to launch on openSUSE. Other browsers such as Chrome/Chromium, Opera, Konqueor etc all launch very quickly... under 1.5 seconds. Firefox on the other hand takes between 15 and 20 seconds (feels like a lot longer). nothing is written to console when starting. Nothing is written to /var/log/messages either.
I find firefox is slower to launch on windows too.
A lot of this has to do with the shear size of the executable, and once you get that cached by the first launch of the day it will launch much quicker from there on out.
I thought about the size of the app as well, but.. I'm launching from SSD, and even monster apps like LibreOffice start up almost instantly (without the pre-load for LibO). Then I compared to other distros, and there, the same version of Firefox pops open almost instantly. If other distros has similar startup times... but they don't. They are faster, even on the very first launch immediately after installing. Also, if I launch, close and re-launch... it's still usually taking 15 to 20 seconds to start up. If I leave it open and browse for a bit, and then close/relaunch it's snappy like the other browsers. Wait a while though, and then relaunch.. back to 20 second startup time.
One thing that seems particularly time consuming in Firefox is their proxy detection. Simply turn that off in Preferences / Advanced / Network and tell it that it is directly connected with no proxy.
It's set to the default from openSUSE... "Use system proxy settings". If I set it to "No proxy" there's no change in startup. I know 20 seconds isn't that long in the grand scheme of things... but it's REALLY noticeable and annoying considering it's the only app I use that takes so long to launch, and it's so much faster on other distros. C. -- openSUSE 12.3 x86_64, KDE 4.11 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
C wrote:
I know 20 seconds isn't that long in the grand scheme of things... but it's REALLY noticeable and annoying considering it's the only app I use that takes so long to launch, and it's so much faster on other distros.
I don't have that problem and I don't know if it's related, but sometimes my system gets bogged down to the point of being unusable. Top shows Firefox is hogging most of the CPU and killing it clears the problem. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 21:55:11 +0100 C C wrote:
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 9:45 PM, John Andersen <jsamyth@gmail.com> wrote:
Firefox on openSUSE takes a very long time (relatively speaking) to launch on openSUSE. Other browsers such as Chrome/Chromium, Opera, Konqueor etc all launch very quickly... under 1.5 seconds. Firefox on the other hand takes between 15 and 20 seconds (feels like a lot longer). nothing is written to console when starting. Nothing is written to /var/log/messages either.
I find firefox is slower to launch on windows too.
A lot of this has to do with the shear size of the executable, and once you get that cached by the first launch of the day it will launch much quicker from there on out.
I thought about the size of the app as well, but.. I'm launching from SSD, and even monster apps like LibreOffice start up almost instantly (without the pre-load for LibO). Then I compared to other distros, and there, the same version of Firefox pops open almost instantly. If other distros has similar startup times... but they don't. They are faster, even on the very first launch immediately after installing.
Also, if I launch, close and re-launch... it's still usually taking 15 to 20 seconds to start up. If I leave it open and browse for a bit, and then close/relaunch it's snappy like the other browsers. Wait a while though, and then relaunch.. back to 20 second startup time.
One thing that seems particularly time consuming in Firefox is their proxy detection. Simply turn that off in Preferences / Advanced / Network and tell it that it is directly connected with no proxy.
It's set to the default from openSUSE... "Use system proxy settings". If I set it to "No proxy" there's no change in startup.
I know 20 seconds isn't that long in the grand scheme of things... but it's REALLY noticeable and annoying considering it's the only app I use that takes so long to launch, and it's so much faster on other distros.
C.
Hmmm... I Googled 'how to speed up Firefox launch on Linux' and then '2013 how to speed up Firefox launch on Linux' and got over 2.6 million hits. Looks like this is actually a common complaint and many things can be involved, including an incorrectly configured /etc/hosts file, an excessively large or fragmented Sqlite database (the one that underpins the anti-phishing feature,) having pipe-lining disabled (all protocols,) having too high a value set for 'nglayout.initialpaint.delay' (default appears to be 250 ms) and so on. Even things like changing the default start-up page and search engine are recommended. Could this have something to do with openSUSE 'branding'? For the record, I'm running FF 24.0 on openSUSE 12.3 w/ KDE 4.11.2 (just updated) and I haven't noticed this problem. I regularly keep several FF windows open, spread across several desktops, with each having anywhere from 3 to 5, up to a dozen tabs open depending upon what I'm working on and I haven't noticed a problem. I'm able to work all day, several days in a row, without much difficulty and without having to close and restart the browser, and I run Web Developer Tools and Firebug and several other extensions. Moreover, this is a modest (mobile 2.0 GHz) Core2Duo system, so, I "feel your pain" but I don't ;-) Is this the *only* problem you're experiencing with the browser? regards, Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
El 27/10/13 17:13, C escribió:
So... any ideas why openSUSE's Firefox is so slow in starting up?
Can't reproduce in 13.1. Firefox comes up after around 3 seconds. -- "Any real systematist (or scientist in general) has to be ready to heave all that he or she has believed in, consider it crap, and move on, in the face of new evidence. That is how we differ from clerics." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 20:13:58 -0000, C <smaug42@opensuse.org> wrote:
I've been tinkering with Firefox in openSUSE and comparing it to other distros.
Software/Hardware I'm testing on: AMD Phenom II X4, 16GB RAM, SSD drive, and openSUSE x86_64 with KDE 4.11.
Firefox on openSUSE takes a very long time (relatively speaking) to launch on openSUSE. Other browsers such as Chrome/Chromium, Opera, Konqueor etc all launch very quickly... under 1.5 seconds. Firefox on the other hand takes between 15 and 20 seconds (feels like a lot longer). nothing is written to console when starting. Nothing is written to /var/log/messages either.
This is a default install of Firefox with no extensions and a clean profile.
I've compared that behaviour now with Firefox on other distros on the same hardware, and everywhere else I've tested, Firefox is as fast as, or faster than the other browsers - again, no extensions, clean profile.
Firefox is also virtually instant on guest OSes (various Linux distros) in VMWare as well - and the VMs are installed onto mechanical drives.
So... any ideas why openSUSE's Firefox is so slow in starting up?
C.
Make your settings like this and the problem will be resolved https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10573557/12.2_Misc/network-issue-12.2-lo... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/27/2013 3:12 PM, Carl Fletcher wrote:
On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 20:13:58 -0000, C <smaug42@opensuse.org> wrote:
I've been tinkering with Firefox in openSUSE and comparing it to other distros.
Software/Hardware I'm testing on: AMD Phenom II X4, 16GB RAM, SSD drive, and openSUSE x86_64 with KDE 4.11.
Firefox on openSUSE takes a very long time (relatively speaking) to launch on openSUSE. Other browsers such as Chrome/Chromium, Opera, Konqueor etc all launch very quickly... under 1.5 seconds. Firefox on the other hand takes between 15 and 20 seconds (feels like a lot longer). nothing is written to console when starting. Nothing is written to /var/log/messages either.
This is a default install of Firefox with no extensions and a clean profile.
I've compared that behaviour now with Firefox on other distros on the same hardware, and everywhere else I've tested, Firefox is as fast as, or faster than the other browsers - again, no extensions, clean profile.
Firefox is also virtually instant on guest OSes (various Linux distros) in VMWare as well - and the VMs are installed onto mechanical drives.
So... any ideas why openSUSE's Firefox is so slow in starting up?
C.
Make your settings like this and the problem will be resolved https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10573557/12.2_Misc/network-issue-12.2-lo...
Explain why that would work, and would affect ONLY firefox? -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 27/10/2013 23:12, Carl Fletcher a écrit :
Make your settings like this and the problem will be resolved https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10573557/12.2_Misc/network-issue-12.2-lo...
seem to work. so good :-) thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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