9.1 Personal not worth it
If you're thinking about getting 9.1 just spend the extra money and buy 9.1 Professional "upgrade". It seems like I can't load anything up because 9.1 personal seems to lack a lot of libraries and other things that are likely in 9.1 Professional; especially since professional has a lot more software. Part of the reason I like Gnome is because of the applets that you can put in the toolbars, like weather and dictionary. I can't seem to load the kde versions of these because I don't have the dependencies required for these apps, and I can't get them off of my installation cd because they're not on it (yes, I've tried). I wish SuSE had stuck with what they had going. The extra ten bucks to get Gnome and a couple other windowmanagers was worth it.
On Wednesday 26 May 2004 19:52, Brooks wrote:
Part of the reason I like Gnome
From surveys that I have seen, the vast majority of SuSE users prefer KDE to Gnome. I know very few long-term SuSE people who prefer Gnome. I doubt the recent wave of RedHat refugees have changed that balance much. For the main SuSE userbase, the Personal version may be a lower cost way to get the SuSE core. You don't fit that group and it's too bad you didn't get the edition that suited you, but that doesn't mean it is "not worth it".
On Wednesday 26 May 2004 20:18, Mike wrote:
From surveys that I have seen, the vast majority of SuSE users prefer KDE to Gnome. I know very few long-term SuSE people who prefer Gnome.
That may be the case, but my point goes beyond just the absence of other window managers. It's about having the options available and the fact that I seem to not have a lot of libraries and other files that I need to install and run some of the applications I wanted to run (e.g., kweather). In 9.0 I had or could get what I needed off of the installation disks. I think the ability to install desired software is limited in a way that 9.0 was not. (When I say "9.0" I do not mean 9.0 Professional.)
For the main SuSE userbase, the Personal version may be a lower cost way to get the SuSE core.
I'm no economist, but I think, typically, if someone has the money to have a computer and look at Windoze alternatives, they can afford the extra $10 that SuSE was charging to also include the added software with gnome, icewm, and the various games that 9.0 had. $30 to $40 isn't that much. I'm a law student and do not have a nice, high-paying job. I'm pretty sure that if $40 is do-able for me, it would be for most everyone. You don't fit that group and it's too bad you didn't
get the edition that suited you, but that doesn't mean it is "not worth it".
KDE is, I'm sure very good for people who know how to configure it to look and behave the way they want it to, but I don't think that's the case for newbie users. I'm little better than a newbie myself and I think KDE is harder to configure than Gnome. I think Gnome has a better Windoze feel to it than KDE as well. Obviously that's just my opinion, but it's what I've found. KDE clearly has its advantages, but when someone new to linux is stuck with just KDE, they could get easily frustrated trying to tailor it to their liking. That's why I think paying for just KDE is not worth it. It's far better to pay a little extra and get options.
On Thursday 27 May 2004 01:52, Brooks wrote:
If you're thinking about getting 9.1 just spend the extra money and buy 9.1 Professional "upgrade". It seems like I can't load anything up because 9.1 personal seems to lack a lot of libraries and other things that are likely in 9.1 Professional; especially since professional has a lot more software. Part of the reason I like Gnome is because of the applets that you can put in the toolbars, like weather and dictionary. I can't seem to load the kde versions of these because I don't have the dependencies required for these apps, and I can't get them off of my installation cd because they're not on it (yes, I've tried). I wish SuSE had stuck with what they had going. The extra ten bucks to get Gnome and a couple other windowmanagers was worth it.
Can't you download the extra packages needed from the Internet? There are Suse ftp with tons of packages, rpm.phobe.net, rpmfind, etc. You just enter the package name you need, select the Suse 9.x version, and yast will download and install it for you. I've Suse 9.1 Pro, but I installed most of the packages from the Internet, because there are many of them which newer, than on the cd. (for example KDE3.2.2 or Gnome updates, which can be downloaded freely, without any registration from www.suse.com) The Personal version was made especially for novice users, because it does not contain any developer packages, only one windows manager (KDE is very easy to use I think, and it's preconfigured for daily usage in Suse), etc. For example in Gnome you can't change the menu structure, which was very annoying for me. In KDE this is for 2 clicks away. Suse is mainly a KDE based distribution, there are other Gnome based distros, like Redhat->Fedora. In Suse every tool like Sax2, Yast, YOU, etc is based on QT gui engine and integrated to KDE. Like the Open Office is also integrated to KDE. Gnome in Suse is only an alternative choice, if somebody hates KDE. But I think than he should not choose Suse :) regards
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