[OT] SuSE may drop out of UnitedLinux
Just seen the following on Slashdot
http://slashdot.org/articles/03/03/10/212241.shtml?tid=143&tid=106
According to this article over at Linux Box SuSE Is "Reevaulating Our
Relationship" with SCO Group. There is also a reference to this article
in wired about OSS developers rallying behind IBM. The best line of the
article is "Eric Raymond called SCO's move 'deeply stupid...'"
Any offical information from SuSE
Adam
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Adam Leach
According to this article over at Linux Box SuSE Is "Reevaulating Our Relationship" with SCO Group. There is also a reference to this article in wired about OSS developers rallying behind IBM. The best line of the article is "Eric Raymond called SCO's move 'deeply stupid...'"
This could quickly get OT if it isn't already, but SCO's been along for the ride on the whole UL thing almost from the start. SCO is basically a company without a product at this point. They have been hoping to ride the UL wave so to speak with hopes to rebuild SCO to what it once was with a product they had little part (and therefore little cost) in developing. I'm sure this point has been made over and over on /., but I haven't read the thread (although I did see the headline a while ago). JMTC. -- John LeMay KC2KTH Senior Enterprise Consultant NJMC | http://www.njmc.com | Phone 732-557-4848 Specializing in Microsoft and Unix based solutions
* John LeMay (jlemay@njmc.com) [030310 17:55]: ->>According to this article over at Linux Box SuSE Is "Reevaulating Our ->>Relationship" with SCO Group. There is also a reference to this article ->>in wired about OSS developers rallying behind IBM. The best line of the ->>article is "Eric Raymond called SCO's move 'deeply stupid...'" -> ->This could quickly get OT if it isn't already, but SCO's been along for ->the ride on the whole UL thing almost from the start. SCO is basically a ->company without a product at this point. They have been hoping to ride ->the UL wave so to speak with hopes to rebuild SCO to what it once was ->with a product they had little part (and therefore little cost) in ->developing. I'm sure this point has been made over and over on /., but I ->haven't read the thread (although I did see the headline a while ago). JMTC. It's not personal bias...but the only thing I'll say about UL is this.. UnitedLinux = SuSE If they dropped out it would kill it. The other members wouldn't be able to rebrand and resell anything and they've failed to produce anything of real value over the years. -- Ben Rosenberg ---===---===---===--- mailto:ben@whack.org Tell me what you believe.. I'll tell you what you should see.
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It's not personal bias...but the only thing I'll say about UL is this..
UnitedLinux = SuSE
If they dropped out it would kill it. The other members wouldn't be able to rebrand and resell anything and they've failed to produce anything of real value over the years.
This seems like an odd partnership for SuSE to have made or agreed to. Personally, I'd be a lot more interested in UL if it was made by SuSE, Mandrake and Debian or something, but if the other 3 entities are not adding any value, what's the point? Josh
This seems like an odd partnership for SuSE to have made or agreed to. Personally, I'd be a lot more interested in UL if it was made by SuSE, Mandrake and Debian or something, but if the other 3 entities are not adding any value, what's the point?
The point is that you have four vendors, from four different market areas. SuSE - Europe SCO - North America Connectiva - Latin America Turbo - Asia Pacific Now, these four all have expertise in those markets, they know the way they work, and they know how to market to them. The four vendors then become the local contacts in those regions for channel partners or whatever. On the technical side, as Ben said the distribution UL is SuSE Linux Enterprise Server (SLES), but the other partners do contribute, in terms of testing, they probably donate developer time (those that still have Linux developers, ie not SCO) and maintainers. It would seem that SuSE is reevaluating the UL contract (it's relationship with SCO), but this doesn't mean that they're pulling out of UL, which would indeed leave UL hosed to the max. That contract is also their relationship with Connectiva and Turbo. My guess, for what it's worth, is that SCO maybe be politely asked to leave UL... All a far cry from when I was at SuSE, I remember drinking a fair few beers with a consultant from SCO (before they were bought by Caldera) one night before an expo... What happened to the world? J -- James Ogley, Webmaster, Rubber Turnip james@rubberturnip.org.uk http://www.rubberturnip.org.uk Jabber: riggwelter@myjabber.net Using Free Software since 1994, running GNU/Linux (SuSE 8.1). GNOME updates for SuSE: http://www.usr-local-bin.org
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Adam Leach
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Ben Rosenberg
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James Ogley
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John LeMay
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Josh Trutwin