I reckon the way to go has been established by "those who go down to the sea" in emulators. I mean, have you tried any of the N64/PlayStation emulators knocking about. They are very impressive. Take, for example, Zelda 64. The emulator, as far as I remember, is minute (couple of megs maybe?). The game is 25MB (compressed, I assume). The performance? Damn good. Think about DirectX. Remember the good old pre-Windows days hacking chaps up in Wolfenstein. Then Doom. Then Quake. The games effectively came with their own OS and ran underneath it. And, unless I'm mistaken, that's the way things are today except now you have to play in Windows. Now you have an OS inside an OS. The insanity of it. Necessitating an entire CD's worth of data. Sony and Nintendo should surrender to the emulator developers and set about getting one going - I speak of a Nintendo OS for PCs for example. There should be an OS for gaming/multimedia and an OS for 'other'. Rather than trying to run one OS under another. Madness I tells ya! Imagine the market that would open up to them. With audio and video capabilities the way they are today in the PC market, this should be possible. Have I missed something here? Probably not exactly the right place for this but I feel compelled to write on this thread of 3D APIs for Linux. Sod that. There should be a gaming OS out there. How about it Suse? Here's to Susey - the Suse/Sony edition of Linux for playing PS games!! SET RANT OFF Lee -----Original Message----- From: VIGNERON Damien (DROL) [SMTP:dvigneron@nordnet.fr] <<A HREF="mailto:[SMTP:dvigneron@nordnet.fr">mailto:[SMTP:dvigneron@nordnet.fr</A>]> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 1999 11:53 AM To: Pedro Timoteo Cc: suse-linux-e@suse.com <<A HREF="mailto:suse-linux-e@suse.com">mailto:suse-linux-e@suse.com</A>> Subject: Re: [SuSE Linux] Re: R: 3D cards Pedro Timoteo wrote: > > Germano Rizzo wrote: > > > You're right. There'll (almost surely) never be a D3D for Linux, and it > probably will never replace Win9x as a gaming platform. Sure. 3D games uses D3D. But there is also exellent 2D games wich already works with Wine using Wine DirectDraw Internal emulation. I think about Warcraft and StarCraft :-)... > In a keynote here at the Game Developers Conference in California, > Sony Entertainment America Inc.'s Phil Harrison revealed that > the company uses Linux to develop its next-generation Playstation > system. "We needed a stable operating system," Harrison explained, > triggering howls of laughter from the gathered developers. > <A HREF="http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/1999/11/ns-7405.html"><A HREF="http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/1999/11/ns-7405.html</A">http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/1999/11/ns-7405.html</A</A>> <<A HREF="http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/1999/11/ns-7405.html"><A HREF="http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/1999/11/ns-7405.html</A">http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/1999/11/ns-7405.html</A</A>>> ----------------------------------------------------- Homepage : <A HREF="http://home.nordnet.fr/~dvigneron"><A HREF="http://home.nordnet.fr/~dvigneron</A">http://home.nordnet.fr/~dvigneron</A</A>> <<A HREF="http://home.nordnet.fr/~dvigneron"><A HREF="http://home.nordnet.fr/~dvigneron</A">http://home.nordnet.fr/~dvigneron</A</A>>> Club LinuX NPDC : <A HREF="http://gaia.anet.fr/clx"><A HREF="http://gaia.anet.fr/clx</A">http://gaia.anet.fr/clx</A</A>> <<A HREF="http://gaia.anet.fr/clx"><A HREF="http://gaia.anet.fr/clx</A">http://gaia.anet.fr/clx</A</A>>> ----------------------------------------------------- -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com <<A HREF="mailto:majordomo@suse.com">mailto:majordomo@suse.com</A>> with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> <<A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>> <<A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>> -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e Check out the SuSE-FAQ at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A">http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/</A</A>> and the archive at <A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html"><A HREF="http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A">http://www.suse.com/Mailinglists/suse-linux-e/index.html</A</A>>