Are there going to be SuSE RPMs for Mozilla 0.9.6 It seems that very shortly after they were moved to /pub/projects/mozilla they were abandoned for some reason... -- James Ogley, Unix Systems Administrator, Pinnacle Insurance Plc james.ogley@pinnacle.co.uk www.pinnacle.co.uk +44 (0) 20 8731 3619 Using Free Software since 1994, running GNU/Linux (SuSE 7.x) This email was created and sent with Ximian Evolution 0.99.2 (RC2) NEW: Advogato diary at www.advogato.org/person/riggwelter *********************************************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY. This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to another person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Pinnacle Insurance Plc. If you have received this e-mail in error please immediately notify our Helpdesk on +44 (0) 20 8207 9555. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com **********************************************************************
On Thursday 22 November 2001 9:36 am, you wrote:
Are there going to be SuSE RPMs for Mozilla 0.9.6
It seems that very shortly after they were moved to /pub/projects/mozilla they were abandoned for some reason...
What does "abandoned" mean? I downloaded it yesterday and installed it on SuSE-7.1. Seems to work fine (although I won't be leaving Konqueror for it).
Where did you get the RPMs from? The most recent I can see at ftp.suse.com:/pub/projects/mozilla are for 0.9.4
What does "abandoned" mean? I downloaded it yesterday and installed it on SuSE-7.1. Seems to work fine (although I won't be leaving Konqueror for it). -- James Ogley, Unix Systems Administrator, Pinnacle Insurance Plc james.ogley@pinnacle.co.uk www.pinnacle.co.uk +44 (0) 20 8731 3619 Using Free Software since 1994, running GNU/Linux (SuSE 7.x) This email was created and sent with Ximian Evolution 0.99.2 (RC2) NEW: Advogato diary at www.advogato.org/person/riggwelter
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James Ogley wrote:
Where did you get the RPMs from? The most recent I can see at ftp.suse.com:/pub/projects/mozilla are for 0.9.4
What does "abandoned" mean? I downloaded it yesterday and installed it on SuSE-7.1. Seems to work fine (although I won't be leaving Konqueror for it).
I installed it last night too. I don't know if Derek did the same, but I just installed the tar.gz under a separate directory. I thought about uninstalling the existing RPM first, but it turns out that lots of things (eg. parts of Gnome) depend on libraries provided by the Mozilla RPM. So I created /opt2 and installed it under there. It doesn't put files anywhere else AFAICS. I'm *pretty* sure that running /opt2/mozilla/mozilla is really running 0.9.6 - the Help/About says so, but I was worried that I might be picking up some of the previous libraries from /opt because of LD_LIBRARY_PATH. But looking at the Moz startup scripts, it looks like they set everything to point to "here" before starting. I did the same with Netscape 4.79 last night too. Only problem with this is that the start scripts don't seem quite as clean. For some reason, if you start via KDE (a menu or a .desktop file somewhere) it runs up two copies: the old 4.78 *and* the new 4.79 (so you get lock clashes and "licence accepts" popping up). Haven't sorted this one yet; running /opt2/netscape/netscape from the command line (or from a .desktop in a terminal) works OK. Cheers, -nick
On Thursday 22 November 2001 04:22, Nick Battle wrote:
James Ogley wrote:
Where did you get the RPMs from? The most recent I can see at ftp.suse.com:/pub/projects/mozilla are for 0.9.4
I did an 'install almost everything" on SuSE 7.3 Pro and I just now checked the Mozilla that was installed: version 0.9.5 JLK
What does "abandoned" mean? I downloaded it yesterday and installed it on SuSE-7.1. Seems to work fine (although I won't be leaving Konqueror for it).
I installed it last night too. I don't know if Derek did the same, but I just installed the tar.gz under a separate directory. I thought about uninstalling the existing RPM first, but it turns out that lots of things (eg. parts of Gnome) depend on libraries provided by the Mozilla RPM. So I created /opt2 and installed it under there. It doesn't put files anywhere else AFAICS.
I'm *pretty* sure that running /opt2/mozilla/mozilla is really running 0.9.6 - the Help/About says so, but I was worried that I might be picking up some of the previous libraries from /opt because of LD_LIBRARY_PATH. But looking at the Moz startup scripts, it looks like they set everything to point to "here" before starting.
I did the same with Netscape 4.79 last night too. Only problem with this is that the start scripts don't seem quite as clean. For some reason, if you start via KDE (a menu or a .desktop file somewhere) it runs up two copies: the old 4.78 *and* the new 4.79 (so you get lock clashes and "licence accepts" popping up). Haven't sorted this one yet; running /opt2/netscape/netscape from the command line (or from a .desktop in a terminal) works OK.
Cheers, -nick
On Thursday 22 November 2001 10:00 am, you wrote:
Where did you get the RPMs from? The most recent I can see at ftp.suse.com:/pub/projects/mozilla are for 0.9.4
I just installed the tarball from mozilla.com into its own directory in /opt. It's all self contained.
Thing is that the binary tarball from Mozilla doesn't include the development header files which you need to build other things against Moz, installing the mozilla-devel RPM gives you these. But, if you get Chris Blizzard's Red Hat RPMs from Mozilla, it sticks them in a silly place.
I just installed the tarball from mozilla.com into its own directory in /opt. It's all self contained. -- James Ogley, Unix Systems Administrator, Pinnacle Insurance Plc james.ogley@pinnacle.co.uk www.pinnacle.co.uk +44 (0) 20 8731 3619 Using Free Software since 1994, running GNU/Linux (SuSE 7.x) This email was created and sent with Ximian Evolution 0.99.2 (RC2) NEW: Advogato diary at www.advogato.org/person/riggwelter
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On Thursday 22 November 2001 04:36 am, James Ogley wrote:
Are there going to be SuSE RPMs for Mozilla 0.9.6
It seems that very shortly after they were moved to /pub/projects/mozilla they were abandoned for some reason...
Why do you need RPMs? Download the small installer, mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-0.96-installer.tar.gz, and point it at the /opt/mozilla directory rather than the /usr/local/bin directory it wants to install to. It detects and deletes the old version automatically. Though pin reports that my mozilla version according to the RPM database is 0.81, the drawback to this approach. :-)
The main reason I want to use the SuSE RPMs is that I can't be bothered to build Mozilla from source, cos it takes the best part of a day... I need to have the development header files (which you simply do not get with the binary tarballs) because with each new release of Mozilla, Nautilus and more importantly Galeon need to be rebuilt. All this on top of the fact that I actually have work to do (shock I know, but true) and you can see the benefit of just pointing my FTP client at ftp.suse.com grabbing them from /pub/projects/mozilla and issuing a quick rpm command. So, returning to my original question, and hoping a SuSE employee reads this, will SuSE be producing mozilla and mozilla-devel RPMs for 7.1 - 7.3?
Why do you need RPMs? Download the small installer, mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-0.96-installer.tar.gz, and point it at the /opt/mozilla directory rather than the /usr/local/bin directory it wants to install to. It detects and deletes the old version automatically. Though pin reports that my mozilla version according to the RPM database is 0.81, the drawback to this approach. :-) -- James Ogley, Unix Systems Administrator, Pinnacle Insurance Plc james.ogley@pinnacle.co.uk www.pinnacle.co.uk +44 (0) 20 8731 3619 Using Free Software since 1994, running GNU/Linux (SuSE 7.x) This email was created and sent with Ximian Evolution 0.99.2 (RC2) NEW: Advogato diary at www.advogato.org/person/riggwelter
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On 23 Nov 2001, James Ogley wrote:
So, returning to my original question, and hoping a SuSE employee reads this, will SuSE be producing mozilla and mozilla-devel RPMs for 7.1 - 7.3?
We had a change of command for the Mozilla packages. A new maintainer is currently working on updating them - stay tuned. Bye, LenZ -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Lenz Grimmer SuSE GmbH mailto:grimmer@suse.de Schanzaeckerstr. 10 http://www.suse.de/~grimmer/ 90443 Nuernberg, Germany Only adults have difficulty with childproof caps.
On Friday 23 November 2001 04:14 am, James Ogley wrote:
The main reason I want to use the SuSE RPMs is that I can't be bothered to build Mozilla from source, cos it takes the best part of a day...
Well obviously I didn't build it from source either. :-)
I need to have the development header files (which you simply do not get with the binary tarballs) because with each new release of Mozilla, Nautilus and more importantly Galeon need to be rebuilt.
I'm sorry that my advice wasn't what you needed. I didn't know you needed header files. My apologies... Hopefully you can get help from the SuSE people with regards to the Mozilla RPMs. BTW, I notice that you run Evolution. I couldn't get it to install here using the RPMs, I have at present the personal edition so I don't have many RPMs available to me, and I only have a 56K modem so I don't want to waste my time ftping files that won't help. What files do I need to install it? I'm running SuSE 7.2.
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