[opensuse] Thinking about the 10-month release schedule
All, I installed 10.2 on a couple machines this month. Just realized they will go out of support in 15 months. Amazing how a 2-year commitment turns into a 15-month reality. Also, given the recent release cycle, only 2 new openSUSE releases will come out in that 15-months. ie. 10.3 in a couple weeks, and 11.0 10 months later. Effectively to stay supported we need to upgrade every other release. ie. I assume when 10.2 loses support at the end of 2008, 11.0 will still be the latest. When there was a release every 6 months, we could just upgrade every fourth release and stay with supported releases. We've all seen releases we would just as soon skip. What if you get two of those in a row now? Greg -- Greg Freemyer Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Greg Freemyer wrote:
All,
I installed 10.2 on a couple machines this month. Just realized they will go out of support in 15 months.
Amazing how a 2-year commitment turns into a 15-month reality.
Also, given the recent release cycle, only 2 new openSUSE releases will come out in that 15-months. ie. 10.3 in a couple weeks, and 11.0 10 months later.
Effectively to stay supported we need to upgrade every other release. ie. I assume when 10.2 loses support at the end of 2008, 11.0 will still be the latest.
When there was a release every 6 months, we could just upgrade every fourth release and stay with supported releases.
We've all seen releases we would just as soon skip. What if you get two of those in a row now?
Greg Hi Greg,
don't forget that you do not pay for what you get with OpenSUSE. If you want to use stable releases for long than there are always SLED and SLES waiting. Futhermore, if you do not want to pay, but still stay long with a supported release, you can always use Ubuntu LTS. Kind regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2007-24-09 at 18:55 +0200, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
Greg Freemyer wrote:
All,
I installed 10.2 on a couple machines this month. Just realized they will go out of support in 15 months.
Amazing how a 2-year commitment turns into a 15-month reality.
Also, given the recent release cycle, only 2 new openSUSE releases will come out in that 15-months. ie. 10.3 in a couple weeks, and 11.0 10 months later.
Effectively to stay supported we need to upgrade every other release. ie. I assume when 10.2 loses support at the end of 2008, 11.0 will still be the latest.
When there was a release every 6 months, we could just upgrade every fourth release and stay with supported releases.
We've all seen releases we would just as soon skip. What if you get two of those in a row now?
Greg Hi Greg,
don't forget that you do not pay for what you get with OpenSUSE. If you want to use stable releases for long than there are always SLED and SLES waiting.
Futhermore, if you do not want to pay, but still stay long with a supported release, you can always use Ubuntu LTS.
I tried SLED10 and liked it, really liked it. What stopped me from buying was (and maybe I'm wrong here) is that you pay every year so you can get updates. The concept is fine for businesses, but for me the home/College user, that's money I don't really want to pay. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 09/25/2007 12:24 AM, Greg Freemyer wrote:
I installed 10.2 on a couple machines this month. Just realized they will go out of support in 15 months.
Amazing how a 2-year commitment turns into a 15-month reality.
But you are installing 10.2 10 months after it came out. That still works out to 25 months. But the longer development times do mean versions will be less is number in between. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.2 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 9/24/07, Joe Morris (NTM)
On 09/25/2007 12:24 AM, Greg Freemyer wrote:
I installed 10.2 on a couple machines this month. Just realized they will go out of support in 15 months.
Amazing how a 2-year commitment turns into a 15-month reality.
But you are installing 10.2 10 months after it came out. That still works out to 25 months. But the longer development times do mean versions will be less is number in between.
I'm not sure I was complaining, just caught me off guard that in Sept. 2007 I install the best non-beta version of opensuse and 15 months later I will lose support for it. Somehow it seems the timing if funky. Under the old release schedule one could say that opensuse was supported for 18-months after the follow-on release was made. With the new schedule, its only 14 months. Greg -- Greg Freemyer Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Greg Freemyer wrote:
I'm not sure I was complaining, just caught me off guard that in Sept. 2007 I install the best non-beta version of opensuse and 15 months later I will lose support for it. Somehow it seems the timing if funky. I am following this thread and it just made me think of something. I assume that loss of support means that SuSE will not put more updates on servers but does this also mean that existing patches will not be available either? If for some reason I am still using 10.2 two years from now and I needed to reinstall for some reason, would I find any updates at all?
Damon Register -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 25 September 2007, Damon Register wrote:
Greg Freemyer wrote:
I'm not sure I was complaining, just caught me off guard that in Sept. 2007 I install the best non-beta version of opensuse and 15 months later I will lose support for it. Somehow it seems the timing if funky.
I am following this thread and it just made me think of something. I assume that loss of support means that SuSE will not put more updates on servers but does this also mean that existing patches will not be available either? If for some reason I am still using 10.2 two years from now and I needed to reinstall for some reason, would I find any updates at all?
With 9.3 they removed all that was under the "supplementay" folder in the old FTP hierarchy, and all that had been moved over to software.opensuse.org (i.e. new KDE, GNOME etc. packages). They kept the patches that had been provided against the original version. f.e. ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/update/9.3 is still there. Tero Pesonen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 24 September 2007 09:24, Greg Freemyer wrote:
All,
I installed 10.2 on a couple machines this month. Just realized they will go out of support in 15 months.
Amazing how a 2-year commitment turns into a 15-month reality.
Well, 10.2 came out in April, AFAIK. Not quite sure that is 24 months, sounds more like 20 months, but still it isn't bad. If you've got a problem you could always ask for your money back. :P Seriously, for corporate-type support you should probably look at SLED. I'm doing just that (as well as looking at SLES) for my little nook of LA County. -- kai ponte www.perfectreign.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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