Re: [opensuse] Nepomuk - The Opposite Question
On 06/01/2013 01:40 PM, Jan Ritzerfeld wrote:
Am Samstag, 1. Juni 2013, 12:49:31 schrieb John Andersen:
On 6/1/2013 12:01 PM, Jan Ritzerfeld wrote:
It seems to that the integrated search does not use nepomuk! But if I enter, e.g., the URL nepomuksearch:/umzug into Dolphin, it even finds emails Yeah, that does work, (proving that the indexing appears to work), but Gawd(sic) what a horrible way to have to do it.
Okay, found the problem: The trick is to start the Dolphin search in a folder that is actually indexed by nepomuk! Then, select "content" and "from here" and not "everywhere" if not already selected. My home is not fully indexed, only some subfolders of it like Documents, Pictures, .... Additionally, just typing a search string into krunnder (Alt+F2) finds results via nepomuk.
Gruß Jan
Ok, with a slight modification... You can select CONTENT and From Everywhere IFF you are in a folder that is indexed by Nepomuk. If I step to my Documents directory which is indexed by nepomuk it will work, even tho the words I am searching lie somewhere else (not in my user directory at all). Jeeze this is obtuse.... When selecting Content + Everywhere, why should it matter where you start? Are you going to find the bug report or should I? -- Explain again the part about rm -rf / -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Saturday 01 of June 2013 14:56:42 John Andersen wrote:
If I step to my Documents directory which is indexed by nepomuk it will work, even tho the words I am searching lie somewhere else (not in my user directory at all).
Jeeze this is obtuse....
When selecting Content + Everywhere, why should it matter where you start?
Are you going to find the bug report or should I?
I can't reproduce this (with current master though) -> going to ~/Src (which is not set to be indexed) dir, search "plasma" by content everywhere returns results from whole $HOME. There is another bug though, at least here, if i try your steps, then are indeed results only from indexed dirs shown. This seems to be caused by that if the dir is indexed, then the search is performed with kio_nepomuksearch (which searches through inxeded dirs only), if not, then it searches with kio_filenamesearch (which searches either current dir, or $HOME)... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 6/2/2013 1:36 PM, šumski wrote:
On Saturday 01 of June 2013 14:56:42 John Andersen wrote:
If I step to my Documents directory which is indexed by nepomuk it will work, even tho the words I am searching lie somewhere else (not in my user directory at all).
Jeeze this is obtuse....
When selecting Content + Everywhere, why should it matter where you start?
Are you going to find the bug report or should I?
I can't reproduce this (with current master though) -> going to ~/Src (which is not set to be indexed) dir, search "plasma" by content everywhere returns results from whole $HOME. There is another bug though, at least here, if i try your steps, then are indeed results only from indexed dirs shown. This seems to be caused by that if the dir is indexed, then the search is performed with kio_nepomuksearch (which searches through inxeded dirs only), if not, then it searches with kio_filenamesearch (which searches either current dir, or $HOME)...
That is pretty close to what I am seeing, the CONTENT From EVERYWHERE defaults to your home directory tree UNLESS Unison is starting from an indexed folder (such as documents). You seem to be replicating it just fine. I think there should be an explicit button to Search Indexed Files that triggers nepomuk (and that option should only appear when nepomuk is installed and running. ) Having to know some secret trick of start in a certain place is less obvious than another button. Here means the current directory Everywhere means your home directory But if you start from and indexed directory things work totally differently in a way that makes nepomuk less useful. No wonder the nepomuk adoption rate is so sparse. -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sunday 02 of June 2013 13:52:19 John Andersen wrote:
Having to know some secret trick of start in a certain place is less obvious than another button.
Here means the current directory Everywhere means your home directory
But if you start from and indexed directory things work totally differently in a way that makes nepomuk less useful. No wonder the nepomuk adoption rate is so sparse.
Yes, in short, "everywhere" in indexed dir means within all *indexed* dirs, in a non-indexed dir it means $HOME. (and yes, one then needs to know in what kind of dir he is to know what kind of results to expect) IMO, either should everywhere always just use filenamesearch, or to combine both searches when one is in a indexed dir... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 6/2/2013 2:01 PM, šumski wrote:
either should everywhere always just use filenamesearch, or to combine both searches when one is in a indexed dir...
Gah!... I'm not sure that anyone would install nepomuk if starting a search for content is ALWAYS going to start crawling the directory tree opening every file and scanning everything for specific content. Nepomuk Indexing is specifically meant to get your searches down to sub quarter second in duration on massive file systems. To saddle that with always including a file crawl is criminal. What would be wrong with offering the explicit trinary choice of Here/Everywhere/Indexed? Especially when Everywhere does not operate as you think. (It only means YOUR home directory). -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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