[opensuse] intall hints for 10.3 on Thinkpad?
dear list members, i am going to install 10.3 x86-64 on ibm thinkpad z61m. I would like to ask any thinkpad gurus, is there anything i should worry or care about? Because of i am quite not sure how the "ThinkVantage" stuffs are "hidden" on the buildin harddrive. It would be nice to keep those things and do not want to lose my backups made from win xp. So, i am looking for partitioning hints.... many thanks, z -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 10/27/07, Zoltan Levardy <zoltan@levardy.org> wrote:
dear list members,
i am going to install 10.3 x86-64 on ibm thinkpad z61m. I would like to ask any thinkpad gurus, is there anything i should worry or care about? Because of i am quite not sure how the "ThinkVantage" stuffs are "hidden" on the buildin harddrive. It would be nice to keep those things and do not want to lose my backups made from win xp. So, i am looking for partitioning hints....
If you mean the 4G or so partition where your OS mirror is then you should not have problems since it will be iderntified as a vendor specific partition and not be touched... Try the install process and get to the point where the partition are selected and modified and you can verify yourself. Nothing will happen if you do not choose to continue the installation process. Only if you click continue will your HD be repartitioned, resized and formatted. -H -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 28 October 2007 00:42:23 Zoltan Levardy wrote:
dear list members,
i am going to install 10.3 x86-64 on ibm thinkpad z61m. I would like to ask any thinkpad gurus, is there anything i should worry or care about? Because of i am quite not sure how the "ThinkVantage" stuffs are "hidden" on the buildin harddrive. It would be nice to keep those things and do not want to lose my backups made from win xp. So, i am looking for partitioning hints....
many thanks, z
I recently bought a old T30 thinkpad which had win XP on a 20GB drive. Don't know if this is correct method as to what followed but it worked for me. I swopped the 20GB for a blank 120GB hard drive. I installed WIN XP on it telling the the install setup to use 40GB. For the validate/Licence code I used the number that was on a sticker under the laptop. XP seems so far to run OK. ThinkVantage files/programs are available for download of the IBM site. Note. If you want to use your existing hard drive. Make sure you defragment it first under windows. (I usually do a 2 or 3 runs of this, might be overkill?) Going back to installing 10.3. During the setup, you'll be presented with what the installation is going to do. eg programs, desktop gnome/kde etc. there is one for partitioning which may say something like remove windows and create and format alternative partitions. Click the word partitioning which will be underlined and select custom partition setup, click next and select custom partitioning for experts. This will give you a table of how your hard disks are currently setup. In your case I would think there is only one entry, for XP. Select resize (it will show how much is used by XP) Resize to a figure that will leave XP running comfortably for the forseeable future. It now depends a bit as to how much free space you have. If you only have 5 to 10GB then perhaps the easiest option would be to create a swap drive of 1GB and a root partition for the rest. If you have a lot more. then create a primary root partition thats designated as / of about 5 to 8GB (Always done for me) depends on how many programs you'll be installing. Then a extended swap file partition (the swap drive I've been told is better/more efficient if it's placed in the middle of the disk, that's so the heads don't have to travel as far. Could be wrong theory but it's not done any harm for me yet) and then create a extended /home partion on whats left. In the /home all your docs and personal settings will go. The partition table display might show a small partion for thinkavanatage stuff, I'm not sure but if it does, leave it there for XP. The root partition will have to be created as a primary partition for booting up reasons. Hope that helps. I'm Not a thinkpad guru by the way. Peter C -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
thanks guys for hint ;) i needed to reboot 3 times while repartitioning. Finally i am having a feeling it needs to refresh partition table to re-read. And format cannot be done just after a partition created. But it's just working with bit a hassle. another issue came up as wifi lan adapter looks not working. It is an intel pro 3945 abd. Kernel module loaded (ipw3945), but wlan indicator led show heavy traffic on it, but just simply not initialized. Kernel is default: 2.6.22.5-31. Should i try with another module? or kernel? thanks, z Zoltan Levardy wrote:
dear list members,
i am going to install 10.3 x86-64 on ibm thinkpad z61m. I would like to ask any thinkpad gurus, is there anything i should worry or care about? Because of i am quite not sure how the "ThinkVantage" stuffs are "hidden" on the buildin harddrive. It would be nice to keep those things and do not want to lose my backups made from win xp. So, i am looking for partitioning hints....
many thanks, z
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On Thu November 1 2007 22:51, Zoltan Levardy wrote:
thanks guys for hint ;)
i needed to reboot 3 times while repartitioning. Finally i am having a feeling it needs to refresh partition table to re-read. And format cannot be done just after a partition created. But it's just working with bit a hassle.
It is usually a one pass operation that shrinks your main Windows partition, leaving the "preload" and "service" ones alone and at the same time formats the new partition(s) needed for Linux. I've seen the process get interrupted if there are bad blocks in the disk. Usually you get an error message, when this is the case.
another issue came up as wifi lan adapter looks not working. It is an intel pro 3945 abd. Kernel module loaded (ipw3945), but wlan indicator led show heavy traffic on it, but just simply not initialized. Kernel is default: 2.6.22.5-31. Should i try with another module? or kernel?
The Intel driver ipw3945 is apparently of poor quality. Do a search in bugzilla (https://bugzilla.novell.com/query.cgi) with Words:3945 and Product:opensuse 10.3 and you will find there are 10 open bugs being actively worked on now. If you feel that your case does not fit in any of those, by all means submit a new bug report, so they can start working in fixing it for you. -- Carlos FL Who is General Failure, and why is he reading my disk? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 08:10 -0600, Carlos F Lange wrote:
another issue came up as wifi lan adapter looks not working. It is an intel pro 3945 abd. Kernel module loaded (ipw3945), but wlan indicator led show heavy traffic on it, but just simply not initialized. Kernel is default: 2.6.22.5-31. Should i try with another module? or kernel?
The Intel driver ipw3945 is apparently of poor quality. Do a search in bugzilla (https://bugzilla.novell.com/query.cgi) with Words:3945 and Product:opensuse 10.3 and you will find there are 10 open bugs being actively worked on now. If you feel that your case does not fit in any of those, by all means submit a new bug report, so they can start working in fixing it for
I have an x61 and for a couple of days I have been playing with the ipw3945, even I got a new router thinking that might do the trick. No luck. Then I remove this one and and load the new one. Now it is working great. This is from opensuse 10.3 release note: <<< You can change the the default using YaST. Click "Software" -> "Software Management" and remove the ipw3945d package. Then the alternative iwlwifi driver gets automatically selected for installat
Ciao -=terry(Denver)=- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Teruel de Campo MD wrote:
On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 08:10 -0600, Carlos F Lange wrote:
another issue came up as wifi lan adapter looks not working. It is an intel pro 3945 abd. Kernel module loaded (ipw3945), but wlan indicator led show heavy traffic on it, but just simply not initialized. Kernel is default: 2.6.22.5-31. Should i try with another module? or kernel?
The Intel driver ipw3945 is apparently of poor quality. Do a search in bugzilla (https://bugzilla.novell.com/query.cgi) with Words:3945 and Product:opensuse 10.3 and you will find there are 10 open bugs being actively worked on now. If you feel that your case does not fit in any of those, by all means submit a new bug report, so they can start working in fixing it for
I have an x61 and for a couple of days I have been playing with the ipw3945, even I got a new router thinking that might do the trick. No luck. Then I remove this one and and load the new one. Now it is working great. This is from opensuse 10.3 release note:
<<< You can change the the default using YaST. Click "Software" -> "Software Management" and remove the ipw3945d package. Then the alternative iwlwifi driver gets automatically selected for installat
yes, you can install it, but iwlwifi is not supporting unbroadcasted SSID networks... hmm. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Zoltan Levardy wrote:
Teruel de Campo MD wrote:
On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 08:10 -0600, Carlos F Lange wrote:
another issue came up as wifi lan adapter looks not working. It is an intel pro 3945 abd. Kernel module loaded (ipw3945), but wlan indicator led show heavy traffic on it, but just simply not initialized. Kernel is default: 2.6.22.5-31. Should i try with another module? or kernel?
The Intel driver ipw3945 is apparently of poor quality. Do a search in bugzilla (https://bugzilla.novell.com/query.cgi) with Words:3945 and Product:opensuse 10.3 and you will find there are 10 open bugs being actively worked on now. If you feel that your case does not fit in any of those, by all means submit a new bug report, so they can start working in fixing it for
I have an x61 and for a couple of days I have been playing with the ipw3945, even I got a new router thinking that might do the trick. No luck. Then I remove this one and and load the new one. Now it is working great. This is from opensuse 10.3 release note:
<<< You can change the the default using YaST. Click "Software" -> "Software Management" and remove the ipw3945d package. Then the alternative iwlwifi driver gets automatically selected for installat
yes, you can install it, but iwlwifi is not supporting unbroadcasted SSID networks... hmm.
finally many things working nice: (1) wireless: i have very kind help by Ben Kevan, it seems to be a bug in KNetworkManager (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=330995), solution is simple to use "what ifup" method. Ben's instructions: YaST --> Network Devices --> Network Card Click on the "Global Options" tab. Under the "Network Setup Method" switch it to "Traditional Method with ifup" Reboot and see if you connect (You will not get the KNetworkManager in the systray, so you will just have to try to get to a web site) or open a Konsole and type: /usr/sbin/iwconfig and see if you have a connection (you can do /sbin/ifconfig to check your ip addresses etc). (2) ATI x1400 and 1680x1050 native panel resolution: there are many ways, but the most simplest is: http://en.opensuse.org/ATI#openSUSE_10.3 Just click on the link and done. This is going to be fixed in version 11 by having a native driver in the OS (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=340890). (3) install time partitioning issues, can be solved with some easy rules: if you change anything in the part.table (resize or even jsut the type), then do not format in that session. (reboot), and then works perfect. so, it looks very promising for me ;) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Carlos F Lange wrote:
On Thu November 1 2007 22:51, Zoltan Levardy wrote:
thanks guys for hint ;)
i needed to reboot 3 times while repartitioning. Finally i am having a feeling it needs to refresh partition table to re-read. And format cannot be done just after a partition created. But it's just working with bit a hassle.
It is usually a one pass operation that shrinks your main Windows partition, leaving the "preload" and "service" ones alone and at the same time formats the new partition(s) needed for Linux. I've seen the process get interrupted if there are bad blocks in the disk. Usually you get an error message, when this is the case.
the error was: -0800L but i did not find any result by googling. Another info, i had the same issue with my old desktop (asus p4p800dlx with intel ICH5R) when had a try also to repartition a SATA attached HDD. I have the impression that SATA attached drives, cannot resize (modify partition table) and format in the same boot session. If i made only partition changes, even only change partition type as (82,83...), then i needed to reboot to be able to format. That was the work around in my case.
another issue came up as wifi lan adapter looks not working. It is an intel pro 3945 abd. Kernel module loaded (ipw3945), but wlan indicator led show heavy traffic on it, but just simply not initialized. Kernel is default: 2.6.22.5-31. Should i try with another module? or kernel?
The Intel driver ipw3945 is apparently of poor quality. Do a search in bugzilla (https://bugzilla.novell.com/query.cgi) with Words:3945 and Product:opensuse 10.3 and you will find there are 10 open bugs being actively worked on now. If you feel that your case does not fit in any of those, by all means submit a new bug report, so they can start working in fixing it for you.
i still need to investigate what is the best suiting for my problem. thanks Carlos a lot ;) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
and there is no settings for 1600x1050 of its TFT, SXWGA+ whatever called. Now running in 800x600. (i was expecting almost full hw support on one year old laptop) 10.2 is more stable edition for thinkpads? thx -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
and there is no settings for 1600x1050 of its TFT, SXWGA+ whatever called. Now running in 800x600.
is there any idea how to fix ati x1400 resolution issue? thx -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
I've been a fan of SuSE since version 7 but I'm really scratching my head with 10.3. This is the worst release for "just not working" on my Thinkpad T60p. I was able to get 10.2 working OK with a bit of tweaking but I'm astounded at how broken 10.3 is. I've tried very hard to get compiz working (beryl worked with 10.2) but it has eluded me so far with 10.3. I've installed the latest versions from the repositories but without a working window manager (and kwin is only marginally better than compiz) or a version of seamonkey that doen't hang every few minutes (this is the 3rd edit to get this sent out) I'm dead in the water. What the hell has happened here? Cosmo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Mr Banana wrote:
I've been a fan of SuSE since version 7 but I'm really scratching my head with 10.3. This is the worst release for "just not working" on my Thinkpad T60p. I was able to get 10.2 working OK with a bit of tweaking but I'm astounded at how broken 10.3 is. I've tried very hard to get compiz working (beryl worked with 10.2) but it has eluded me so far with 10.3. I've installed the latest versions from the repositories but without a working window manager (and kwin is only marginally better than compiz) or a version of seamonkey that doen't hang every few minutes (this is the 3rd edit to get this sent out) I'm dead in the water.
What the hell has happened here? I have a T60p with OpenSUSE 10.2 on one partition and 10.3 on another. Both just installed w/o my having to do much of anything except take the defaults. However I am still using 10.2 for everyday use and have not switched to 10.3 yet. I'm waiting for the end of the month when (supposedly) the new fglrx driver comes out from AMD/ATI. That driver is supposed to support the FireGL cards and AIGLX.
As to Compiz/Beryl .. you have more courage than I. When I've toyed with it on a desktop with an NVidia card I found it worked well but ATI cards have been another story. - Bruce -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
I also have a T60. To be fair everything works except the ATI card, which is limited to the VESA driver - the Mobility FireGL V5200 in the T60 isn't supported by the ATI drivers as yet. If you install the standard stuff, and run sax2 -r, it will revert to the VESA drivers and you will get a working window manager, at least with KDE - I haven't tried Gnome. The only problem with that is there's no 3D, and things like Google Earth don't work. P. Mr Banana wrote:
I've been a fan of SuSE since version 7 but I'm really scratching my head with 10.3. This is the worst release for "just not working" on my Thinkpad T60p. I was able to get 10.2 working OK with a bit of tweaking but I'm astounded at how broken 10.3 is. I've tried very hard to get compiz working (beryl worked with 10.2) but it has eluded me so far with 10.3. I've installed the latest versions from the repositories but without a working window manager (and kwin is only marginally better than compiz) or a version of seamonkey that doen't hang every few minutes (this is the 3rd edit to get this sent out) I'm dead in the water.
What the hell has happened here?
Cosmo
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Paul Hands wrote:
I also have a T60. To be fair everything works except the ATI card, which is limited to the VESA driver - the Mobility FireGL V5200 in the T60 isn't supported by the ATI drivers as yet.
This seems to be the root of the problems. I have now installed the fglrx 8.40.4 driver and have managed to get things working OK. Even compiz seems to be behaving itself (although I can't figure out what the equivalent of beryl's 3D windows is when rotating the cube). The only big issue seems to be when the screen saver/lock kicks in - sometimes it covers just 3/4 of the screen and often doesn't pop up the login box. I'll be waiting with baited breath for the next ATI release. Cosmo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue November 6 2007 11:25, Mr Banana wrote:
The only big issue seems to be when the screen saver/lock kicks in - sometimes it covers just 3/4 of the screen and often doesn't pop up the login box.
It's not a driver problem, I think. I have the same weird behaviour (screen saver covers only 800x600) with an Intel 945 GM card. -- Carlos FL Who is General Failure, and why is he reading my disk? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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I also have a T60. To be fair everything works except the ATI card, which is limited to the VESA driver - the Mobility FireGL V5200 in the T60 isn't supported by the ATI drivers as yet.
It's actually the opposite problem. ATI *removed* support for the V52xx in the latest fglrx release. Or were you referring to the open source one? - -Jeff
If you install the standard stuff, and run sax2 -r, it will revert to the VESA drivers and you will get a working window manager, at least with KDE - I haven't tried Gnome. The only problem with that is there's no 3D, and things like Google Earth don't work.
P.
Mr Banana wrote:
I've been a fan of SuSE since version 7 but I'm really scratching my head with 10.3. This is the worst release for "just not working" on my Thinkpad T60p. I was able to get 10.2 working OK with a bit of tweaking but I'm astounded at how broken 10.3 is. I've tried very hard to get compiz working (beryl worked with 10.2) but it has eluded me so far with 10.3. I've installed the latest versions from the repositories but without a working window manager (and kwin is only marginally better than compiz) or a version of seamonkey that doen't hang every few minutes (this is the 3rd edit to get this sent out) I'm dead in the water.
What the hell has happened here?
Cosmo
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