Mozilla/Netscape appears to take swap on start no matter what the free RAM is...with the new kernels.
Could someone try this and confirm what I'm seeing... Make sure none of your swap is being used..start everything you normally would and watch if swap is taken up. Then start Netscape 6 or Mozilla 0.9.X and see if off the bat at least 4M of swap is taken up. I thought this was a problem with the 2.4.10 .12 and .13 kernels not handling memory allocation correctly, but it appears that Mozilla based browsers are having issues with these newer kernels. If so..then it should be reported as a bug. Mozilla/Netscape shouldn't go for swap as soon as they are started and ignore the available RAM. Cheers..and anything thoughts would be welcome. -----=====-----=====-----=====-----=====----- Ben Rosenberg mailto:ben@whack.org -----=====-----=====-----=====-----=====----- "Technological progress is like an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal" -AE
* Ben Rosenberg
Could someone try this and confirm what I'm seeing...
Make sure none of your swap is being used..start everything you normally would and watch if swap is taken up. Then start Netscape 6 or Mozilla 0.9.X and see if off the bat at least 4M of swap is taken up.
I thought this was a problem with the 2.4.10 .12 and .13 kernels not handling memory allocation correctly, but it appears that Mozilla based browsers are having issues with these newer kernels.
If so..then it should be reported as a bug. Mozilla/Netscape shouldn't go for swap as soon as they are started and ignore the available RAM.
Cheers..and anything thoughts would be welcome.
What happens with the 2.4.14-pre5? -- Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk "Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic and totally illogic, with just a little bit more effort." -- A. P. J.
Make sure none of your swap is being used..start everything you normally would and watch if swap is taken up. Then start Netscape 6 or Mozilla 0.9.X and see if off the bat at least 4M of swap is taken up.
If so..then it should be reported as a bug. Mozilla/Netscape shouldn't go for swap as soon as they are started and ignore the available RAM.
Ben, you seem rather obsessed with VM behaviour these days. ;) Using swap is not a bug. The VM doesn't just use swap when the RAM is full of process data; it uses swap when it can see a better use for the RAM. When you load a big application like Mozilla other processes may very well be paged out to swap if they haven't been used for a while. That leaves more of your RAM free for more useful things, like cache space.
* Derek Fountain (fountai@hursley.ibm.com) [011031 00:50]: ->> Make sure none of your swap is being used..start everything you normally ->> would and watch if swap is taken up. Then start Netscape 6 or Mozilla ->> 0.9.X and see if off the bat at least 4M of swap is taken up. ->> ->> If so..then it should be reported as a bug. Mozilla/Netscape shouldn't ->> go for swap as soon as they are started and ignore the available RAM. -> ->Ben, you seem rather obsessed with VM behaviour these days. ;) -> ->Using swap is not a bug. The VM doesn't just use swap when the RAM is full of ->process data; it uses swap when it can see a better use for the RAM. When you ->load a big application like Mozilla other processes may very well be paged ->out to swap if they haven't been used for a while. That leaves more of your ->RAM free for more useful things, like cache space. Thanks for the tip. I know what VM does ;) It's jus that with as much mem as I have in both boxes..to have 124M of free RAM and 50M of swap taken up ..it seemed odd that this wasn't the case with 2.4.4 but is the case with anything above 2.4.7. *shrug* -----=====-----=====-----=====-----=====----- Ben Rosenberg mailto:ben@whack.org -----=====-----=====-----=====-----=====----- "Technological progress is like an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal" -AE
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