[opensuse] Nice things about 11.2 and KDE 4 -- plus nVidia MCP61 problem messages
Yes, I'm atoning for my previous message, which I now see was over-wrought and unfairly critical. I feel like I should apologize for failing to research my concerns before posting them. My frustration was caused mainly by the continuing problem with the nVidia MCP61 and the lack of an Internet connection. That frustration made the shortcomings of KDE 4 seem larger than they are. Now that I know that the shortcomings are being addressed, I have a much more favorable view of this work in progress. - Here, then, are some of the things that I like about 11.2 and KDE 4: - When a command fails, I get a prompt suggesting diagnostics! E.g.: : When I typed "unmount", a prompt asked me whether I meant "umount"! : When I typed "umount", the "device busy" message advised me to try "lsof" and "fuser" This is very helpful. I tend to forget about the "fuser" command, and "lsof" is completely new to me. So I learned something new today. That is one of the pleasures of Linux: learning new tricks! - I found out how to access my USB memory through mc. Dolphin shows the USB stick as one of its "places". I can use Dolphin to access this place, at which point it becomes accessible through mc as well, under /media. The behavior here is rather interesting. As soon as I plug the stick into the USB socket, I get an entry for it under /media, but no directories appear under the entry. Then, when I use Dolphin to select it, I get a second entry for the stick, this time with directories. Why no directories the first time? Do I need to mount it? If so, why is there any entry at all when I plug it in? I notice that it gets mounted on sdb1. I wonder whether a mount command would take the place of the Dolphin access. Where are the "places" that Dolphin refers to? Are they part of the file system? - I got most of my shortcut keys to work: As others suggested, I selected "KWin" and "Plasma Workspace" components. This enabled me to set: : my maximize key (Ctrl-Alt-M) (in KWin) : my desktop switch keys (Ctrl-/ and Ctrl-\ for desktops 1 and 2 respectively) (in KWin) : my desktop access key (Ctrl-Alt-D) (in Plasma Workspace) What is the difference between a dashboard and a desktop? When I press Ctrl-Alt-D I get something that looks like the desktop, but isn't. The dashboard covers up everything, even the taskbar panel. - Still have no way to access the menu bar on konsole. I plan to set up a significant number of profiles -- shell, root shell, sql-server, mysql, python. I could create a separate shortcut for each profile -- KDE 4.3 does allow that -- but in 3.5, I could have just one key, accessing the File menu, listing all of the profiles, plus close and exit. - I see that I can now put command-line programs like mc and gvim right on the desktop! This may have been possible in 3.5 as well, but now these commands appear right in the launch menu system, so it's trivial to make them appear on the desktop as well. - I like the revolving globe on the desktop. Cool! (a word I rarely use) :lol: - I still get the segmentation fault when I try to use the KDE screensaver. But this prompted me to rediscover the screensaver command-line program, and that may do just as well. Segmentation fault follows: - I still have no Internet. forcedeth tells me there is no configuration for the device. It then turns off the external modem -- no green lights, flashing or otherwise. I used modprobe to remove (-r) and reload forcedeth (with msi=0 and msix=0) but that didn't help. I unpluged the internet cable and unplugged the modem, then plugged things back in, but still no lights. Google turns up a Debian forum article that suggests that a similar problem with forcedeth may be fixed in 2.6.32. http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_thread/thread/1... I think I will research the nVidia eth0 forcedeth log messages: /var/log/boot.omsg Nvidia board detected. Ignoring ACPI timer override. If you got timer trouble try acpi_use_timer_override eth0 device: nVidia Corporation MCP61 Ethernet (rev a2) No configuration found for eth0 Nevertheless the interface will be shut down. eth0 forcedeth: Reverse Engineered nForce ethernet driver. Version 0.64. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LMAC] enabled at IRQ 20 forcedeth 0000:00:07.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LMAC] -> GSI 20 (level, low) -> IRQ 20 forcedeth 0000:00:07.0: setting latency timer to 64 input: PC Speaker as /devices/platform/pcspkr/input/input4 EDAC amd64_edac: Ver: 3.2.0 Oct 27 2009 forcedeth 0000:00:07.0: ifname eth0, PHY OUI 0x732 @ 1, addr 00:24:21:b9:c1:43 forcedeth 0000:00:07.0: highdma pwrctl mgmt lnktim msi desc-v3 i2c-adapter i2c-0: nForce2 SMBus adapter at 0x4d00 i2c-adapter i2c-1: nForce2 SMBus adapter at 0x4e00 EDAC amd64: This node reports that Memory ECC is currently disabled. EDAC amd64: bit 0x400000 in register F3x44 of the MISC_CONTROL device (0000:00:18.3) should be enabled EDAC amd64: WARNING: ECC is NOT currently enabled by the BIOS. Module will NOT be loaded. Either Enable ECC in the BIOS, or use the 'ecc_enable_override' parameter. Might be a BIOS bug, if BIOS says ECC is enabled Use of the override can cause unknown side effects. amd64_edac: probe of 0000:00:18.2 failed with error -22 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LAZA] enabled at IRQ 23 /var/log/warn: Feb 18 21:10:25 linux ifdown: No configuration found for eth0 Feb 18 21:10:25 linux ifdown: Nevertheless the interface will be shut down. Feb 18 21:10:26 linux-rtoq kernel: [ 317.981648] [Firmware Bug]: powernow-k8: No compatible ACPI _PSS objects found. Feb 18 21:10:26 linux-rtoq kernel: [ 317.981649] [Firmware Bug]: powernow-k8: Try again with latest BIOS. Feb 18 21:10:26 linux-rtoq ifup: No configuration found for eth0 Feb 20 11:15:52 linux-rtoq kernel: [ 933.704055] ata3.00: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x19d0000 action 0xe frozen Feb 20 11:15:52 linux-rtoq kernel: [ 933.704066] ata3: SError: { PHYRdyChg CommWake 10B8B Dispar LinkSeq TrStaTrns } Feb 20 11:15:52 linux-rtoq kernel: [ 933.704074] ata3.00: cmd c8/00:08:16:3f:da/00:00:00:00:00/e0 tag 0 dma 4096 in Feb 20 11:15:52 linux-rtoq kernel: [ 933.704075] res 40/00:01:00:4f:c2/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask 0x14 (ATA bus error) Feb 20 11:15:52 linux-rtoq kernel: [ 933.704082] ata3.00: status: { DRDY } Feb 20 11:15:54 linux-rtoq kernel: [ 935.151024] ata3.00: device reported invalid CHS sector 0 /var/log/kdm.log: Current Operating System: Linux linux-rtoq 2.6.31.5-0.1-desktop #1 SMP PREEMPT 2009-10-26 15:49:03 +0100 x86_64 Build Date: 02 November 2009 12:04:43PM (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0) (EE) Failed to load module "nouveau" (module does not exist, 0) Driver not XRANDR 1.2 capable, ignoring DISPLAYMANAGER_RANDR_MODE_* settings -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 20 February 2010 22:19, Charles Obler <joyinstruggle@yahoo.com> wrote:
Yes, I'm atoning for my previous message, which I now see was over-wrought and unfairly critical. I feel like I should apologize for failing to research my concerns before posting them. My frustration was caused mainly by the continuing problem with the nVidia MCP61 and the lack of an Internet connection. That frustration made the shortcomings of KDE 4 seem larger than they are. Now that I know that the shortcomings are being addressed, I have a much more favorable view of this work in progress.
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Here, then, are some of the things that I like about 11.2 and KDE 4:
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When a command fails, I get a prompt suggesting diagnostics! E.g.: : When I typed "unmount", a prompt asked me whether I meant "umount"! : When I typed "umount", the "device busy" message advised me to try "lsof" and "fuser"
This is very helpful. I tend to forget about the "fuser" command, and "lsof" is completely new to me. So I learned something new today. That is one of the pleasures of Linux: learning new tricks!
-
I found out how to access my USB memory through mc. Dolphin shows the USB stick as one of its "places". I can use Dolphin to access this place, at which point it becomes accessible through mc as well, under /media.
The behavior here is rather interesting. As soon as I plug the stick into the USB socket, I get an entry for it under /media, but no directories appear under the entry. Then, when I use Dolphin to select it, I get a second entry for the stick, this time with directories. Why no directories the first time? Do I need to mount it? If so, why is there any entry at all when I plug it in? I notice that it gets mounted on sdb1. I wonder whether a mount command would take the place of the Dolphin access.
Where are the "places" that Dolphin refers to? Are they part of the file system?
-
I got most of my shortcut keys to work: As others suggested, I selected "KWin" and "Plasma Workspace" components. This enabled me to set: : my maximize key (Ctrl-Alt-M) (in KWin) : my desktop switch keys (Ctrl-/ and Ctrl-\ for desktops 1 and 2 respectively) (in KWin) : my desktop access key (Ctrl-Alt-D) (in Plasma Workspace)
What is the difference between a dashboard and a desktop? When I press Ctrl-Alt-D I get something that looks like the desktop, but isn't. The dashboard covers up everything, even the taskbar panel.
-
Still have no way to access the menu bar on konsole. I plan to set up a significant number of profiles -- shell, root shell, sql-server, mysql, python. I could create a separate shortcut for each profile -- KDE 4.3 does allow that -- but in 3.5, I could have just one key, accessing the File menu, listing all of the profiles, plus close and exit.
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I see that I can now put command-line programs like mc and gvim right on the desktop! This may have been possible in 3.5 as well, but now these commands appear right in the launch menu system, so it's trivial to make them appear on the desktop as well.
-
I like the revolving globe on the desktop. Cool! (a word I rarely use) :lol:
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I still get the segmentation fault when I try to use the KDE screensaver. But this prompted me to rediscover the screensaver command-line program, and that may do just as well. Segmentation fault follows:
-
I still have no Internet. forcedeth tells me there is no configuration for the device. It then turns off the external modem -- no green lights, flashing or otherwise. I used modprobe to remove (-r) and reload forcedeth (with msi=0 and msix=0) but that didn't help. I unpluged the internet cable and unplugged the modem, then plugged things back in, but still no lights.
Google turns up a Debian forum article that suggests that a similar problem with forcedeth may be fixed in 2.6.32.
http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_thread/thread/1...
I think I will research the nVidia eth0 forcedeth log messages:
/var/log/boot.omsg
Nvidia board detected. Ignoring ACPI timer override. If you got timer trouble try acpi_use_timer_override eth0 device: nVidia Corporation MCP61 Ethernet (rev a2) No configuration found for eth0 Nevertheless the interface will be shut down. eth0
forcedeth: Reverse Engineered nForce ethernet driver. Version 0.64. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LMAC] enabled at IRQ 20 forcedeth 0000:00:07.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LMAC] -> GSI 20 (level, low) -> IRQ 20 forcedeth 0000:00:07.0: setting latency timer to 64 input: PC Speaker as /devices/platform/pcspkr/input/input4 EDAC amd64_edac: Ver: 3.2.0 Oct 27 2009
forcedeth 0000:00:07.0: ifname eth0, PHY OUI 0x732 @ 1, addr 00:24:21:b9:c1:43 forcedeth 0000:00:07.0: highdma pwrctl mgmt lnktim msi desc-v3 i2c-adapter i2c-0: nForce2 SMBus adapter at 0x4d00 i2c-adapter i2c-1: nForce2 SMBus adapter at 0x4e00 EDAC amd64: This node reports that Memory ECC is currently disabled. EDAC amd64: bit 0x400000 in register F3x44 of the MISC_CONTROL device (0000:00:18.3) should be enabled EDAC amd64: WARNING: ECC is NOT currently enabled by the BIOS. Module will NOT be loaded. Either Enable ECC in the BIOS, or use the 'ecc_enable_override' parameter. Might be a BIOS bug, if BIOS says ECC is enabled Use of the override can cause unknown side effects. amd64_edac: probe of 0000:00:18.2 failed with error -22 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LAZA] enabled at IRQ 23
/var/log/warn:
Feb 18 21:10:25 linux ifdown: No configuration found for eth0 Feb 18 21:10:25 linux ifdown: Nevertheless the interface will be shut down. Feb 18 21:10:26 linux-rtoq kernel: [ 317.981648] [Firmware Bug]: powernow-k8: No compatible ACPI _PSS objects found. Feb 18 21:10:26 linux-rtoq kernel: [ 317.981649] [Firmware Bug]: powernow-k8: Try again with latest BIOS. Feb 18 21:10:26 linux-rtoq ifup: No configuration found for eth0
Feb 20 11:15:52 linux-rtoq kernel: [ 933.704055] ata3.00: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x19d0000 action 0xe frozen Feb 20 11:15:52 linux-rtoq kernel: [ 933.704066] ata3: SError: { PHYRdyChg CommWake 10B8B Dispar LinkSeq TrStaTrns } Feb 20 11:15:52 linux-rtoq kernel: [ 933.704074] ata3.00: cmd c8/00:08:16:3f:da/00:00:00:00:00/e0 tag 0 dma 4096 in Feb 20 11:15:52 linux-rtoq kernel: [ 933.704075] res 40/00:01:00:4f:c2/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask 0x14 (ATA bus error) Feb 20 11:15:52 linux-rtoq kernel: [ 933.704082] ata3.00: status: { DRDY } Feb 20 11:15:54 linux-rtoq kernel: [ 935.151024] ata3.00: device reported invalid CHS sector 0
/var/log/kdm.log:
Current Operating System: Linux linux-rtoq 2.6.31.5-0.1-desktop #1 SMP PREEMPT 2009-10-26 15:49:03 +0100 x86_64 Build Date: 02 November 2009 12:04:43PM
(EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0) (EE) Failed to load module "nouveau" (module does not exist, 0) Driver not XRANDR 1.2 capable, ignoring DISPLAYMANAGER_RANDR_MODE_* settings
Glad to hear you've found something to like about 11.2 :-) What video card is in your system? If it's an NVidia card, I'd recommend installing their binary driver (http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html), it might take care of the "failure to load module nvidia" error, and screensavers might start working as well. Vadym -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 20 February 2010 23:19:07 Charles Obler wrote:
I still have no Internet. forcedeth tells me there is no configuration for the device. It then turns off the external modem -- no green lights, flashing or otherwise. I used modprobe to remove (-r) and reload forcedeth (with msi=0 and msix=0) but that didn't help. I unpluged the internet cable and unplugged the modem, then plugged things back in, but still no lights.
What sort of modem is it? I wonder if perhaps the problem isn't so much in your network card (or driver) as it is in a bad configuration. Do you have to use PPPoE or something to get connected? Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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