[opensuse] Driving me crazy
Hello SuSE lovers/users, I see lots of new names on this list. That is absolutely great ! (over 200 messages today) I love it. BUT, some of you are driving me crazy. Top posting, failing to trim, etc. Please !! Do not top-post. Please !! trim. I have no desire to start a flame war, long diatribe about proper posting procedures, etc. etc. Please!! just go with the flow, about how things work on THIS list. I KNOW, I really do! That the old-timers, the for real experts, the ones who can really give you advice, have grown tired of this. They just go "plonk" and your request for assistance or review of your advice is completely ignored. Is that what you want? Why did you come here in the first place? I find myself "plonking" those messages quite regularly lately. Those are the rules for THIS list. Do you want the answer to your question, or not? I am far from an expert but have been lurking, learning, from this most outstanding list and an occasional contributor for many years now. Come on all of you new list people and you who remain obstinate; just go with the flow. OK ? Trim and bottom post. OK? Any and/or arumentative replies will be completely ignored. That is the way it works on THIS list. How about it list users? Do I stand alone? Bob S open SUSE user list subscriber openSUSE who? openSUSE Who's there? Knock knock, -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Bob S wrote:
Hello SuSE lovers/users,
I see lots of new names on this list. That is absolutely great ! (over 200 messages today) I love it. BUT, some of you are driving me crazy. Top posting, failing to trim, etc. Please !! Do not top-post. Please !! trim. I have no desire to start a flame war, long diatribe about proper posting procedures, etc. etc. Please!! just go with the flow, about how things work on THIS list.
Motion seconded. I would also suggest "How to ask questions the smart way" by ESR. It's good night-time reading. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- http://www.spamchek.com/ - your spam is our business. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Per Jessen wrote:
Motion seconded. I would also suggest "How to ask questions the smart way" by ESR. It's good night-time reading.
Sorry, I forgot to add the URL: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html /Per Jessen, Zürich -- http://www.spamchek.com/ - your spam is our business. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 10 October 2007 01:52:08 am Bob S wrote:
Hello SuSE lovers/users,
I see lots of new names on this list. That is absolutely great ! (over 200 messages today) I love it. BUT, some of you are driving me crazy. Top posting, failing to trim, etc.
http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette
That the old-timers, the for real experts, the ones who can really give you advice, have grown tired of this. They just go "plonk" and your request for assistance or review of your advice is completely ignored. Is that what you want? Why did you come here in the first place? I find myself "plonking" those messages quite regularly lately. Those are the rules for THIS list. Do you want the answer to your question, or not?
I am far from an expert but have been lurking, learning, from this most outstanding list and an occasional contributor for many years now. Come on all of you new list people and you who remain obstinate; just go with the flow. OK ? Trim and bottom post. OK? Any and/or argumentative replies will be completely ignored. That is the way it works on THIS list.
How about it list users? Do I stand alone?
No you are not alone. I'm just tired to jump in, look for link to this list netiquette and post reply that can start another fruitloss thread. I appreciate you effort. Just added to netiquete: " Conclusion The old-timers, the real experts, the ones who can really give advice, have grown tired of people that use any message style and shape that come in mind. Many just "plonk" a message and request for assistance is completely ignored. So if you want good advice, please, do only what you do when visit someones home, accept hosts customs." -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Rajko M. wrote:
No you are not alone. of course not :-) jdd
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I think it is best to send a short summary of the netiquette with each welcome message e.g. Welcome! You have been subscribed to the opensuse@opensuse.org mailinglist. We have a few simply rules to make communication more smooth. This helps you to get faster and better assistance. Here are the rules, read them all on: http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette 1 When you reply to a message, please quote only the relevant part that you are replying to. 2 Bottom post means that your reply underneath the quoted text and leads to a natural flow of quoted messages that is easy to read and to reply. To unsubscribe send a message to: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org And for help send a message to: opensuse+help@opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hi, On Wednesday, October 10, 2007 at 10:47:04, Aniruddha wrote:
I think it is best to send a short summary of the netiquette with each welcome message e.g.
Its on my TODO. Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE. Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 10/10/07, Henne Vogelsang
Its on my TODO.
Great, Henne, also, you may put a link to "How to ask questions the smart way": "http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html" Cheers -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Even the most advanced equipment in the hands of the ignorant is just a pile of scrap. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2007-10-10 at 11:29 +0200, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
On Wednesday, October 10, 2007 at 10:47:04, Aniruddha wrote:
I think it is best to send a short summary of the netiquette with each welcome message e.g.
Its on my TODO.
How about a rotating mail footer? Unsubscribe address, help address, netiquette, FAQs, etc? You know that welcome messages are never read :-p - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFHDOGztTMYHG2NR9URAuraAJ41GJHrNKMDAqqiEkMNgNnWAKPxsgCfT3uo YFyMVlb2C0ywXw9QBf8KQvk= =SdaC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
The Wednesday 2007-10-10 at 11:29 +0200, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
On Wednesday, October 10, 2007 at 10:47:04, Aniruddha wrote:
I think it is best to send a short summary of the netiquette with each welcome message e.g.
Its on my TODO.
How about a rotating mail footer? Unsubscribe address, help address, netiquette, FAQs, etc? Neat Idea! I really like it, everyone should have the chance to get to know
Am Mittwoch, 10. Oktober 2007 16:29:06 schrieb Carlos E. R.: the unsubscribe adress when he receives it in 30 of 100 messages(there are enough sent per day). Unfortunately I think noone would click on a link like "Please respect the netiquette http://tolazy.to.look.up", I'd rather suggest quoting single paragraphs :)
You know that welcome messages are never read :-p So true... *gg* (If users would read them carefully they'd know the unsubscribe address, which is atm shown under every message...)
Greetings Michael
On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 02:52 -0400, Bob S wrote:
Hello SuSE lovers/users,
I see lots of new names on this list. That is absolutely great ! (over 200 messages today) I love it. BUT, some of you are driving me crazy. Top posting, failing to trim, etc. Please !! Do not top-post. Please !! trim. I have no desire to start a flame war, long diatribe about proper posting procedures, etc. etc. Please!! just go with the flow, about how things work on THIS list.
I KNOW, I really do! That the old-timers, the for real experts, the ones who can really give you advice, have grown tired of this. They just go "plonk" and your request for assistance or review of your advice is completely ignored. Is that what you want? Why did you come here in the first place? I find myself "plonking" those messages quite regularly lately. Those are the rules for THIS list. Do you want the answer to your question, or not?
I am far from an expert but have been lurking, learning, from this most outstanding list and an occasional contributor for many years now. Come on all of you new list people and you who remain obstinate; just go with the flow. OK ? Trim and bottom post. OK? Any and/or arumentative replies will be completely ignored. That is the way it works on THIS list.
How about it list users? Do I stand alone?
Bob S
open SUSE user list subscriber openSUSE who? openSUSE Who's there? Knock knock,
Hey. I'm a new one to the mailinglist.
That would be very helpful. For example, I didn't know ya'll didn't like
for people to top post until I read your message :)
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Kevin Dupuy
On Wednesday 10 October 2007 05:48:07 pm Kevin Dupuy wrote:
On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 02:52 -0400, Bob S wrote:
Hello SuSE lovers/users,
I see lots of new names on this list. That is absolutely great ! (over 200 messages today) I love it. BUT, some of you are driving me crazy. Top posting, failing to trim, etc. Please !! Do not top-post. Please !! trim. I have no desire to start a flame war, long diatribe about proper posting procedures, etc. etc. Please!! just go with the flow, about how things work on THIS list.
.......<spin unnecessary >
Hey. I'm a new one to the mailinglist. That would be very helpful. For example, I didn't know ya'll didn't like for people to top post until I read your message :)
Hello Kevin Welllll...Now you know. Thanks for owning up and replying. Welcome to our best list ever. Let's us all keep it that way. Bob S. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
participants (10)
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Aniruddha
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Bob S
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Carlos E. R.
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Henne Vogelsang
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jdd
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Kevin Dupuy
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Michael Skiba
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Per Jessen
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Rajko M.
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Sunny