[opensuse] ATT Option Wirless
I've got a Dell Inspiron 1521 laptop, amd turion 64x2 processor. I've got a broadband wireless card from ATT (Option Wireless - GT Ultra Express). Has anyone had any luck getting it to work in Suse 11 or 11.1 ? I previously had it working with Ubuntu, then did an upgrade and it disabled the wireless broadband card. Since I have to pretty much start over with a clean install to get the functionality back, I wondered if anyone had any luck with this product in Opensuse. thanks, Regis -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
I have in my ~/.bash_profile the code to call 'keychain' and set up the environment so that I can ssh to other machines without repeatedly having to enter my keyphrase. See keychain(1) for details. I've been running this happily under other distributions and on other machines and it ran happily under openSUSE 11.0 as well. No problems there. For some reason, when I log in with 11.1, I no longer get the initial once-off prompt for the passphrase as I did with 11.0. I have no idea why this isn't working, the logs don't show anything about it. Is anyone else using 'keychain'? Anyone else with this problem? -- And in the master's chambers, They gathered for the feast They stab it with their steely knives, But they just can't kill the beast -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Lørdag den 27. December 2008 16:32:10 skrev Anton Aylward:
I have in my ~/.bash_profile the code to call 'keychain' and set up the environment so that I can ssh to other machines without repeatedly having to enter my keyphrase. I'v never used keychain, but ssh agent does give the same functionality. See ssh-add - and it does work in 11.1
I am a KDE user so I have a program icon in ~/.kde/Autostart which calls /usr/bin/ssh-add. That way I can use ssh from every program on this desktop: xerm, unison, konq-fish ect. -- Regards Klaus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Klaus Slott said the following on 12/27/2008 11:26 PM:
Lørdag den 27. December 2008 16:32:10 skrev Anton Aylward:
I have in my ~/.bash_profile the code to call 'keychain' and set up the environment so that I can ssh to other machines without repeatedly having to enter my keyphrase.
I'v never used keychain, but ssh agent does give the same functionality. See ssh-add - and it does work in 11.1
:-) keychain is a front end for ssh-agent and/or gpg-agent depending on how you invoke it.
I am a KDE user so I have a program icon in ~/.kde/Autostart which calls /usr/bin/ssh-add. That way I can use ssh from every program on this desktop: xerm, unison, konq-fish ect.
That is EXACTLY what I used to acheive with starting keychain in .bash_profile, only it applied when I wasn't using KDE becuase it was in the shell startup. Look 'under the hood' at keychain or run "keychain --help" As I said, I used to get the prompt for my passphrase after logging in, a nice GUI prompt :-) Now, in 11.1, don't. And it seems that the pgp and ssh agents aren't started either. I don't understand "icon" in ~/kde/Autostart. "Icon"??? Why not ~/kde4? What about Gnome users? Surely having it in ~/.bash_profile makes more sense? Or has the way KDE starts up changed in 11.1 so that .bash_profile is now ignored? -- Any philosophy that can be put in a nutshell belongs there. -- Sydney J. Harris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, 2008-12-27 at 23:59 -0000, Anton Aylward wrote:
I'v never used keychain, but ssh agent does give the same functionality. See ssh-add - and it does work in 11.1
:-)
keychain is a front end for ssh-agent and/or gpg-agent depending on how you invoke it.
Maybe there is another agent run directly by KDE that is not compatible with keychain. In Gnome this is called seahorse-agent, in kde I don't know its name. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAklW4E0ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UwXwCeI7Z83Ia9U15Nx4zeRVC1lqWy vgMAn1/MyCxe1O+f1TusqPxbCS7axvWi =m0zI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. said the following on 12/27/2008 09:11 PM:
On Saturday, 2008-12-27 at 23:59 -0000, Anton Aylward wrote:
I'v never used keychain, but ssh agent does give the same functionality. See ssh-add - and it does work in 11.1 :-)
keychain is a front end for ssh-agent and/or gpg-agent depending on how you invoke it.
Maybe there is another agent run directly by KDE that is not compatible with keychain. In Gnome this is called seahorse-agent, in kde I don't know its name.
Maybe. But that doesn't explain something. Under KDE4 running under 11.0 I did get the prompt to enter my keyphrase after logging in. Same as if I run keychain manually at the command line from a konsole window after logging in. A popup window with a cell that changes colour for each character I type. That doesn't happen after login under 11.1 And I now it hasn't happened because when I ssh from konsole window I get the keyphrase request from the other end rather than the proper ssh automagic login. So my question is: What has changed in the KDE startup? As far as I can see whatever shell stuff is being done after the KDM login it is no longer sourcing the ~/bash_profile. -- A military operation involves deception. Even though you are competent, appear to be incompetent. Though effective, appear to be ineffective. Sun-tzu, The Art of War. Strategic Assessments -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
* Anton Aylward
Under KDE4 running under 11.0 I did get the prompt to enter my keyphrase after logging in. Same as if I run keychain manually at the command line from a konsole window after logging in. A popup window with a cell that changes colour for each character I type.
suggests that you were not already running sshd or gpgd ??
That doesn't happen after login under 11.1 And I now it hasn't happened because when I ssh from konsole window I get the keyphrase request from the other end rather than the proper ssh automagic login.
So my question is:
What has changed in the KDE startup?
As far as I can see whatever shell stuff is being done after the KDM login it is no longer sourcing the ~/bash_profile.
Did *you* configure sshd and/or gpgd to start automagically? IIRC, keychain will not run if you have already started the agents. But it could very well be the *z#@%$^&& distribution, maybe. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Patrick Shanahan said the following on 12/27/2008 10:17 PM:
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suggests that you were not already running sshd or gpgd ??
Why should I be running sshd? This is a client machine, my laptop, not a server machine. What is 'gpgd'. Do you mean gpg-agent? If you meant pgp-agent and gpg-agent, then yes, the machine is freshly booted. The purpose of keychain is to start them and prompt for the key. To quote from the man page for keychain: keychain is a manager for ssh-agent, typically run from ~/.bash_profile. It allows your shells and cron jobs to share a single ssh-agent process. By default, the ssh-agent started by keychain is long-running and will continue to run, even after you have logged out from the system. But its not running right after boot at the first login Which is what I'm talking about. The format of the command line I use requests it to start both ssh-agent and gpg-agent
That doesn't happen after login under 11.1 And I now it hasn't happened because when I ssh from konsole window I get the keyphrase request from the other end rather than the proper ssh automagic login.
So my question is:
What has changed in the KDE startup?
As far as I can see whatever shell stuff is being done after the KDM login it is no longer sourcing the ~/bash_profile.
Did *you* configure sshd and/or gpgd to start automagically?
No. That is the purpose of keychain. Check the man page. Let me say again: it worked under 11.0 the way it has worked under other distributions - it prompted me for my keyphrase after login following boot. It stopped doing this with 11.1
IIRC, keychain will not run if you have already started the agents. But it could very well be the *z#@%$^&& distribution, maybe.
I think it is the "*z#@%$^&& distribution". -- Ignorance is never out of style. It was in fashion yesterday, it is the rage today, and it will set the pace tomorrow. -- Franklin K. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, 2008-12-27 at 22:12 -0500, Anton Aylward wrote:
Maybe there is another agent run directly by KDE that is not compatible with keychain. In Gnome this is called seahorse-agent, in kde I don't know its name.
Maybe. But that doesn't explain something.
Under KDE4 running under 11.0 I did get the prompt to enter my keyphrase after logging in. Same as if I run keychain manually at the command line from a konsole window after logging in. A popup window with a cell that changes colour for each character I type.
That doesn't happen after login under 11.1
Yes, it would explain it. If KDE runs its own agent, it will be loaded before keychain, and might impede keychain from loading. The change would be that now kde4 has that agent. Previously, in gnome, the seahorse agent failed to work well, and I used a traditional console agent. But on a later version, seahorse was better, and both services were exclusive. Now I use seahorse instead of gpg agent and ssh agent. The advantage is that it can be used by apps inside xterms and native gnome apps. It works better than the previous situation. My hypothesis is that now kde has its own working agent. Would make sense. Check it; I can't. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAklW96YACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WezQCeP1GX7j30d9FlxrDqG/FGQZi+ P0QAn0cGswplJHH4NDe8XkzFhYClJdnA =etUZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
is it only me who sees that Anton apparently hijacked Regis Matejcik's post with the title "ATT Option Wirless"? Tks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Am Sonntag, 28. Dezember 2008 06:33:17 schrieb Steve Jeppesen:
is it only me who sees that Anton apparently hijacked Regis Matejcik's post with the title "ATT Option Wirless"?
Tks
I noticed it too. But Kmail does not particularly like the suse mailinglists, and so I thought it was due to messed up threading. -- Gruß Andreas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, 2008-12-28 at 08:33 -0600, Steve Jeppesen wrote:
is it only me who sees that Anton apparently hijacked Regis Matejcik's post with the title "ATT Option Wirless"?
Yes, he did. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAklYL5cACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VErwCfVphp4TkZ+PB+eN4YxRIX+Vhc 6okAnRLJCm/yE+QT1lJvXwnH8a1koUId =frzh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 27 December 2008 09:28:28 am Regis Matejcik wrote:
I've got a Dell Inspiron 1521 laptop, amd turion 64x2 processor. I've got a broadband wireless card from ATT (Option Wireless - GT Ultra Express). Has anyone had any luck getting it to work in Suse 11 or 11.1 ?
I previously had it working with Ubuntu, then did an upgrade and it disabled the wireless broadband card. Since I have to pretty much start over with a clean install to get the functionality back, I wondered if anyone had any luck with this product in Opensuse.
Why don't you try openSUSE Live CD? You have plan to install operating system from scratch, so you can do that and test card. If it is not supported natively, you can try to use ndiswrapper and windows driver. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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