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Hi, on friday night 00:04 our MTA got stuck. Unfortunately i did not notice this before today. Thats the reason you got Saturday/Sunday no Mail. Now the server starts to deliver the 30000+ Mails that accrued. Everything should be back to normal now. Henne -- suse-linux-e-owner
Henne, On Monday 04 April 2005 15:07, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Hi,
on friday night 00:04 our MTA got stuck. Unfortunately i did not notice this before today. Thats the reason you got Saturday/Sunday no Mail. Now the server starts to deliver the 30000+ Mails that accrued.
Is there something that happens shortly after the first of each month that causes this? It seems we've had quite a few temporary outages that occurred right at the beginning of the month. I have always speculated that it has something to do with switching from one month's archive index to the next months. Of course I have no way of knowing what's really happening, but the start-of-month pattern has seemed pretty clear to me. It doesn't happen every month, but it has happened several times since last August when I first subscribed.
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Henne
Randall Schulz
On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 10:51:52PM -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Henne,
On Monday 04 April 2005 15:07, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Hi,
on friday night 00:04 our MTA got stuck. Unfortunately i did not notice this before today. Thats the reason you got Saturday/Sunday no Mail. Now the server starts to deliver the 30000+ Mails that accrued.
Man I've seen way worse than this. A list similar to Bugtraq I'm on had an admin who was very new to it and he wasn't good with using sudo. To say the least that server had quite a few problems. I believe it went down completely.
Is there something that happens shortly after the first of each month that causes this? It seems we've had quite a few temporary outages that occurred right at the beginning of the month. I have always speculated that it has something to do with switching from one month's archive index to the next months. Of course I have no way of knowing what's really happening, but the start-of-month pattern has seemed pretty clear to me. It doesn't happen every month, but it has happened several times since last August when I first subscribed.
Well, if they do the archive off the servers... Hmm, could be a lagging thing. I can't imagine how much processing power it would take to archive all of these for the online copy. Maybe that's it, I haven't actually had it happen to me, but then again, when I check my mail it's either late in the day or late at night, I'm almost never up at the same time as most are so that could be why.
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Henne
Randall Schulz
-Allen
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The Tuesday 2005-04-05 at 00:07 +0200, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
on friday night 00:04 our MTA got stuck. Unfortunately i did not notice this before today. Thats the reason you got Saturday/Sunday no Mail. Now the server starts to deliver the 30000+ Mails that accrued.
Everything should be back to normal now.
Thanks! I know that the -owner address is off line on this cases, so I wrote to Feedback around 01:50 UTC on Saturday (the outage happened around 22:17 UTC Friday, ie, 3 1/2 hours earlier); I don't know if they told you. On Monday, seeing that it was still off line at midday, I wrote again (11:50 UTC). I got no answer except the automated one. I also contacted a SuSE/Novell representative that writes on the Spanish list, but although helpful, they didn't know what was happening. Finally, at 19:05 UTC email started to flow again :-) Perhaps you can suggest a better method so that we can advise you of these situations when they happen again? -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
Hi, On Tuesday, April 05, 2005 at 20:19:54, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Tuesday 2005-04-05 at 00:07 +0200, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
on friday night 00:04 our MTA got stuck. Unfortunately i did not notice this before today. Thats the reason you got Saturday/Sunday no Mail. Now the server starts to deliver the 30000+ Mails that accrued.
Everything should be back to normal now.
Thanks!
I know that the -owner address is off line on this cases, so I wrote to Feedback around 01:50 UTC on Saturday (the outage happened around 22:17 UTC Friday, ie, 3 1/2 hours earlier); I don't know if they told you. On Monday, seeing that it was still off line at midday, I wrote again (11:50 UTC). I got no answer except the automated one. I also contacted a SuSE/Novell representative that writes on the Spanish list, but although helpful, they didn't know what was happening.
Finally, at 19:05 UTC email started to flow again :-)
Perhaps you can suggest a better method so that we can advise you of these situations when they happen again?
Its not a big problem because normally we notice when the lists do not deliver anymore because were having a fairly huge amount of employees still reading them :) In this case the outtake hit a busy weekend ( a.k.a. the first with really good weather in germany ) and nobody noticed. So there is nothing you could have done better. Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, http://hennevogel.de "Rules change. The Game remains the same." - Omar
The Tuesday 2005-04-05 at 22:35 +0200, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Perhaps you can suggest a better method so that we can advise you of these situations when they happen again?
Its not a big problem because normally we notice when the lists do not deliver anymore because were having a fairly huge amount of employees still reading them :)
I know, but they might start reading on the evening :-)
In this case the outtake hit a busy weekend ( a.k.a. the first with really good weather in germany ) and nobody noticed. So there is nothing you could have done better.
Ok! :-) But perhaps you (plural, English is imprecise here) can devise a method to inform us of what is happening, like a little note on the web page or the lists archive, I don't know. You see, I couldn't even know if my note to feedback had been read by somebody, because I only got the automated answer. A simple "don't worry, working on it" from the feedback staff would suffice. We know that you all do your best, but sometimes we have to imagine it ;-) -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
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